2017 Roster Prediction

[ANONYMOUS SOURCE.]

4 hours ago, London Kev said:

 

 

One thing that's really annoying me is the pronunciation of Perine. In my head it's Pur-reen and I was a bit confused when hearing the coms' saying Pea-rine. I'm rooting for the guy but he's got to sort this out. 

 

At Oklahoma he asked that it specifically be pronounced Pee-Rhine, with the OK accent it was sounding like they were calling him Purina. ?

[JaxJoe]

11 hours ago, skinny21 said:

Yeah, I kinda doubt anyone on this board does, but (obviously) Gruden's' the one that counts.  As an ex-qb (and as an OC), he might not be cool with rolling with 2.  

There's so much young talent on defense  that I'd be happy to cut Sudfield to keep another DB.  Like KoolBlue13 said, if we got down to the point where we need to use our 3rd string QB, the season is over.  I think we would roll with Pryor, then maybe Reed at QB - both college big program QBs with Pryor having the edge because of his relative NFL QB experience.

[carex]

Sudfeld can go to the PS, keep up with the system and be activated in an emergency.  Honestly I'm not even sure if he dressed at all last season.  The 3rd QB rule was scrapped in favor of just dressing one extra guy within the last few years, so I don't think he actually had the option to play last year

[Jericho]

9 hours ago, Jericho said:

This is more my preference that per se the team's, but I'd like to see the following breakdown by positions:

 

Offense (24)

QB - 2

RB - 3

TE - 4

WR - 6

OL - 9

 

Defense (26)

DL - 7

LB - 9

DB - 10

 

And then the three specialists

 

You could finagle the DB and LB breakdowns a little, depending on who you want for that last spot

 

 

To expand on my earlier post, here's how I hope things shake out:

 

QB - I really see no need to keep three on the active roster. I really didn't think the team needed to keep 3 last year either, but the the team seemed paranoid about losing Sudfeld (however remote of a chance that was). I'm hoping another year will knock some reality in and Sudfeld can go the practice squad. McCoy and Cousins are enough for the 53.

 

RB - Some project 4 here, but this just doesn't seem worth it. Top to bottom, I'd say it's the weakest position group on the team. Thompson, while injury prone, is solid at what he does. Kelley seems merely adequate. Perine has some upside, but is unproven. But those 3 should on the squad no matter what. Mack Brown would likely be #4, but the team cut him last year and he spent most of the season on the practice squad. Is the team really worried about losing him a year later? And even if they did, would it really be that bad? I don't see a need to burn a roster spot on what is essentially a replaceable player (whoever that 4th RB would be). Brown would like be on the PS anyway.

 

TE - Probably the deepest position group on the roster. Reed, Davis, and Paul all seem like locks. So if the team kept just three, it means cutting Sprinkle. From what I've read, I gather that Sprinkle hasn't exactly impressed in camp. But its seems premature to give up on him completely. Sprinkle could slip through to the practice squad. Many 5th rounds picks will get cut. But I'm thinking it's not worth the risk of him getting claimed.

 

WR - Six seems to be the magic number here. Crowder, Pryor, and Doctson should be the top 3. The Bottom 3 is more uncertain. But there's no one really standing out. I know the team loves Grant, so he's probably on. Davis has probably done enough to stay on the 53. Which likely means Harris gets the last spot (not to imply he's our sixth best WR, just I already named 5. Harris is probably #4), unless Quick forces his way on.

 

OL- The starting 5 is basically set (Williams, Lauvao, Long, Scherff, Moses). Nyseke will be a back-up. Some project only eight to make it, with Roullier being one. Kalis sometimes being another. But keeping only eight guys, when two are a sixth round rookie and an undrafted rookie seems risky. I'd like one more able body. Which means a possible spot for Painter or Kouandjio. Or maybe one of them just makes it over Kalis. But I'd take nine here.

 

DL - Five spots seem likely set. McClain and McGee were just signed. Allen's the first rounder. Lanier is loved by the management. And I think Taylor's done enough to lock down his spot. So that leaves 1-2 spots max. Ioannidis seems to have earned his spot. Which leaves one possible spot for a guy like Mbu or Ziggy Hood.

 

LB - Nine seems about right here. I think 4 insider backers (Brown, Compton, Foster, and Spaight) and 4 outside backers (Smith, Kerrigan, Galette, and Anderson) are expected. Leaving one more spot for a guy like Marley (seem more destined for practice squad), Harvey-Clemons, Carter, or Trail to take. Special teams likely will be a big factor for the 9th guy

 

DB - In a passing league, I don't think you can ever have too many DBs. The team has 4 CBs that will make it (Norman, Breeland, Fuller, and Moreau) and 4 Ss (Cravens, Swearinger, Nicholson, and Everett). Holsey and Dunbar are likely fighting for one spot for sure. But if you keep 10, you can take both, or another DB like Blackmon.

[skinny21]

@Jericho love that ^ post, especially how you put a little extra into each position group (the guys competing, ST factor, etc.)  Fits my thinking to a T.  

 

The only thing I might question is carrying 6 receivers and 4 tes.  Totally get the thinking there (and you could well be right), it just seems like a lot of pass catchers.  I agree that Sprinkle is the wildcard though.  If he flashes in the next 2 weeks, than I expect they'll want to keep him - insurance for Reed and Paul's injury history, and Vernon's age, as well as an investment for the future.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

Does anyone think Terrell Pryor has a chance to make the team?...

 

 

 

I'll see myself out.

[VaK9Trainer]

When looking at the Safety spot, nobody mentioned Deangelo Hall.  Probably starting the year on PUP but does anyone think he makes the team? 

 

[carex]

7 hours ago, skinny21 said:

@Jericho love that ^ post, especially how you put a little extra into each position group (the guys competing, ST factor, etc.)  Fits my thinking to a T.  

 

The only thing I might question is carrying 6 receivers and 4 tes.  Totally get the thinking there (and you could well be right), it just seems like a lot of pass catchers.  I agree that Sprinkle is the wildcard though.  If he flashes in the next 2 weeks, than I expect they'll want to keep him - insurance for Reed and Paul's injury history, and Vernon's age, as well as an investment for the future.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

that was my original thinking, I was figuring five and four or six and three.  Then Jordan Reed and Maurice Harris had to get hurt.  The Skins seem to like Harris to much to just toss him, especially with  one WR on a one year deal, and another even more unproven than Harris.  I suppose Harris could go to IR and they keep four TEs.  Reed, Davis and Paul's pass catching ability at TE and Thompson out of the backfield could make up for it.  The injuries are why I see Sprinkle making it

22 minutes ago, VaK9Trainer said:

When looking at the Safety spot, nobody mentioned Deangelo Hall.  Probably starting the year on PUP but does anyone think he makes the team? 

 

 

there's nothing to judge.  He needs to just retire

[Jericho]

2 hours ago, VaK9Trainer said:

When looking at the Safety spot, nobody mentioned Deangelo Hall.  Probably starting the year on PUP but does anyone think he makes the team? 

 

 

As you mentioned, he'll seemingly start the year on the PUP. Which means he misses what, six games? At that point, injuries will have opened up spots for him if he's healthy.

[RandyHolt]

Injury list

Long - Knee

Anderson - Stinger

Harris

Galette

 

Trent = LTIR

Hall - PUP

 

Injuries can shape the final cuts as much as ability. We may have to start the year with 3 centers, or carry an extra OLB.

[I Love The Skins]

On 8/25/2017 at 4:50 PM, CTskin said:

@RandyHolt, @BatteredFanSyndrome, @I Love The Skins, @skinny21- Thanks for the heads up amigos, I didn't even realize I crossed out Preston Smith. Made a quick fix and crossed off Cris Carter... Regardless, it's going to be a tough cut.

I agree it will be a tough cut.

[Guardshock]

I made some changes to what the OP thought. All of my changes are bolded.                     DL (7) 1PS		Hood is a leader on the D-line. Dunbar has had a strong camp. Blackmon is too versitile. Nate Suds has not shown improvement. Mack Brown is good, just buried on the depth chart.Sprinkle and Davis will be on the PS. (Although I want Davis to make it!!)     OL (9) 1PS
Allen, Jonathan		Crowley
Banks, Brandon		Catalina, Tyler (PS)
Francis, A.J.		Kalis, Kyle
Hood, Ziggy		Kling, John
Ioannidis, Matt		Kouandjio, Arie
Lanier II, Anthony		Lauvao, Shawn
Mbu, Joey		Long, Spencer
McClain, Terrell		Moses, Morgan
McGee, Stacy		Nsekhe, Ty
Pipkins, Ondre (PS)		Painter, Vinston
Taylor Sr., Phil		Patrick, Ronald
CB (6)		Roullier, Chase
Breeland, Bashaud		Scherff, Brandon
Dunbar, Quinton		Williams, Isaiah
Fuller, Kendall		Williams, Trent
Holsey, Joshua		QB (2)
Homer, Tevin		Cousins, Kirk
Moreau, Fabian		McCoy, Colt
Norman, Josh		Sudfeld, Nate
McKinnon,		RB (4)
ILB (4)		Brown, Mack
Brown, Zach		Hilliard, Kenny
Compton, Will		Jones, Matt
Foster, Mason		Kelley, Rob
Spaight, Martrell		Perine, Samaje
Vigil, Zach		Thompson, Chris
OLB (4)		TE (4)
Anderson, Ryan		Bibbs, E.J.
Carter, Chris		Carrier, Derek
Galette, Junior		Davis, Vernon
Harvey-Clemons,		Garner, Manasseh
Kerrigan, Ryan		Paul, Niles
Robertson, Pete		Reed, Jordan
Smith, Preston		Sprinkle, Jeremy (PS)
Trail, Lynden		WR (6) 2PS
S (5) 1PS		Crowder, Jamison
Blackmon, Will		Davis, Robert (PS)
Cravens, Su'a		Doctson, Josh
Everett, Deshazor		Grant, Ryan
Marley, Nico (PS)		Harris, Maurice
McClure, Stefan		Hazel, Matt (PS)
Nicholson, Montae		Jacobs, Levern
Scott, Tim		Pascal, Zach
Smithson, Fish		Pryor Sr., Terrelle
Swearinger, D.J.		Quick, Brian
		Quick, James

[drowland]

IMO I can't see them keeping 6 WRs out of this current batch.  If they do it's because they're picking someone up off waivers.  

[justice98]

Sudfeld can be cut.  I doubt he gets picked up.  If a catastrophe hits and you need him, we're already screwed, so who cares.  He'll probably still be on the street anyway.

 

I would keep Carrier, PS Sprinkle.  

 

I do not love that RB depth chart at all.  I dont see that as a stellar group, but it is what it is.  Like CT though as a 3rd down guy.

[Brokenstriker]

if I was king of the jungle ... some unlikely cuts I would make ...

 

Grant ... I know the coaches supposedly love him but he consitently doesn't deliver ... seems like a good guy and I wish him well but somewhere else ... seriously Carrier would be better than Grant ... at least he can block

Sudfeld ... Not the future, not that good so only reason to keep him is if you expect Cousins and McCoy to both get hurt in which case ... resign him if you really feel the need

Spraight ... don't see him ever being starting quality ... liability in coverage.  Only value is spot starter/back-up.  Keep someone with more potential or a better coverage game

Dunbar ... love his story and all but better to keep Holsey

19 hours ago, drowland said:

IMO I can't see them keeping 6 WRs out of this current batch.  If they do it's because they're picking someone up off waivers.  

I agree ... I'd consider keeping an extra TE instead especially considering Gruden's/Cousin's passing game approach and the never ending need for blockers ... or a promising potential future starter to develop somewhere else

[Brokenstriker]

with the cuts happening all at once I expect teams to be grabbing one or more off the cut lists ... wonder where the Skins would do that and who are likely candidates

[carex]

CSN has a new roster, frankly I'm not impressed. It seems to be based on inertia as much as anything It was made before the Taylor injury was announced yet still has Ziggy Hood as the starting NT, claims Gruden isn't the sort to only keep two QBs when he's only been a coach three years so I think it's a bit early to tell, splits the roster 25/25 despite seveal instances where they admit there are some extra D players they'd like to keep

[Riggo'sRangers]

I suspect there will be some interesting big name cuts league wide this year.  It's going to be crazy with good players available, at multiple positions, many all at once.  I sincerely hope we are doing our due diligence.  Here is a cut tracker to follow.  One cut already of note; Tevin Mitchell, CB Colts. Remember him and the slimy move by Indy?  I do. I also remember them taking Ryan Kelly one spot ahead of us in 2016 & we traded back for Doc....but it was Kelly that Scot wanted. The Colts are a very irritating team, to me at least.  HTTR

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/8/28/16214632/nfl-cuts-2017-tracker-deadline-53-man-roster

[CjSuAvE22]

We should sign Joe Haden...I know some of the people will say he's too old not worth it we should "develop" our talent but really under breeland and Norman we have not much to work with except for players with minimal upside potential Haden is a hometown guy proven player who I think would def help the team and he's not graveyard old at 28..

[drowland]

31 minutes ago, CjSuAvE22 said:

We should sign Joe Haden...I know some of the people will say he's too old not worth it we should "develop" our talent but really under breeland and Norman we have not much to work with except for players with minimal upside potential Haden is a hometown guy proven player who I think would def help the team and he's not graveyard old at 28..

 

Joe's clearly lost a step.  Maybe two steps.  He was getting burned by Tampa's 2nd string WRs this past weekend.  Not surprising the Browns moved on.  I'd rather go with young unproven guys.  

[SkinsGuy]

40 minutes ago, CjSuAvE22 said:

We should sign Joe Haden...I know some of the people will say he's too old not worth it we should "develop" our talent but really under breeland and Norman we have not much to work with except for players with minimal upside potential Haden is a hometown guy proven player who I think would def help the team and he's not graveyard old at 28..

 

We just don't need Haden.

 

We have Norman, Breeland, Fuller, Moreau, Dunbar, and Hosley. 

 

That's a good mix of veteran talent (that's still young) and some good up-and-comers.

 

Bringing in a CB who seems to have lost a step is just not necessary.

[skinny21]

I'm already a bit concerned about who we cut... and that's without adding someone else.  

[Guardshock]

On 8/29/2017 at 8:42 AM, Riggo'sRangers said:

I suspect there will be some interesting big name cuts league wide this year.  It's going to be crazy with good players available, at multiple positions, many all at once.  I sincerely hope we are doing our due diligence.  Here is a cut tracker to follow.  One cut already of note; Tevin Mitchell, CB Colts. Remember him and the slimy move by Indy?  I do. I also remember them taking Ryan Kelly one spot ahead of us in 2016 & we traded back for Doc....but it was Kelly that Scot wanted. The Colts are a very irritating team, to me at least.  HTTR

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/8/28/16214632/nfl-cuts-2017-tracker-deadline-53-man-roster

 

 

I live in Indiana and thank God that I'm not a Colts fan. That is a frustrating team.

[Jericho]

5 hours ago, CjSuAvE22 said:

We should sign Joe Haden...I know some of the people will say he's too old not worth it we should "develop" our talent but really under breeland and Norman we have not much to work with except for players with minimal upside potential Haden is a hometown guy proven player who I think would def help the team and he's not graveyard old at 28..

 

I don't think you've seen the Redskins. CB is actually one of the few positions of good depth. And Fuller and Moreau don't have upside? Hell, a guy like Holsey has some too. Plus I doubt Haden wants to come here,he has his suitors

[PartyPosse]

There's gonna be a lot of massive cuts this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon Richardson just gets flat out cut ala Haden. I'd float a late rounder to Jets for him to see if they're interested.

57 minutes ago, Jericho said:

 

I don't think you've seen the Redskins. CB is actually one of the few positions of good depth. And Fuller and Moreau don't have upside? Hell, a guy like Holsey has some too. Plus I doubt Haden wants to come here,he has his suitors

 

I think potential is a better word than Depth. A lot of unknowns in that secondary.

 

srill a hard no on Haden though. Why stunt the development of the talent we have?