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Wyndorf25

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On 5/26/2017 at 11:12 PM, VeroViper said:

I think it all hinges on Doctson. If he can produce at a high level we have an excellent WR group. If not probably just average with the loss of Jackson & Garcon. I think we know we're getting a good to very good receiver in Pryor.

 

I'm trying not to be a homer, but I am absolutely bullish on the Redskins' pass-catchers in fantasy football...and in real-life. I believe in this offensive system and Cousins' ability to make it click.

 

Pryor is a physical freak on the verge of truly breaking out as WR1. Doctson is finally healthy and producing early in camp so far, Crowder is pegged by almost EVERY media outlet to become the next STAR at the WR position from the slot. Reed will be his dynamic self as long as he is healthy and on the field. Mo Harris just seems to catch everything thrown his way. Grant is a route specialist and will always provide decent depth, especially if forced into a pressure situation. I don't know about Brian Quick, but he made a nice grab in camp from what I saw. And now we are talking about the, what, 7th WR (not including Reed). That is some serious depth at one position, IMO.

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Burgundy Yoda

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Watching Doctson in his camp videos, I must say I'm pretty impressed. He does everything really good from the looks of it. He sells routes, has amazing hands, has a very good stride, I'm not trying to gush or be a homer but I have a better feeling about him than Pryor. Which isn't a bad thing because I think Pryor is going to be awesome. 

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When Reed is healthy, Kirk can pretty much throw it near him on every play. It makes it much harder for us when he's out. 

 

I'm hoping the Pryor can be that guy instead, since he's faster and healthy.

 

Great having two guys in Pryor and Doctson that can make up for some of Kirks accuracy issues.

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SWFLSkins

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Trying not to get to hyped with Camp always favoring the WR against a single DB, no safety over the top or pressure on QB. That said it is really exciting to think about the possible production from this unit. 

 

Roberts supposedly doing well, and the guy from ODU Pascal.....this is a great problem to have.

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Reaper Skins

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10 hours ago, Wyndorf25 said:

 

I'm trying not to be a homer, but I am absolutely bullish on the Redskins' pass-catchers in fantasy football...and in real-life. I believe in this offensive system and Cousins' ability to make it click.

 

Pryor is a physical freak on the verge of truly breaking out as WR1. Doctson is finally healthy and producing early in camp so far, Crowder is pegged by almost EVERY media outlet to become the next STAR at the WR position from the slot. Reed will be his dynamic self as long as he is healthy and on the field. Mo Harris just seems to catch everything thrown his way. Grant is a route specialist and will always provide decent depth, especially if forced into a pressure situation. I don't know about Brian Quick, but he made a nice grab in camp from what I saw. And now we are talking about the, what, 7th WR (not including Reed). That is some serious depth at one position, IMO.

I pissed some people off over at www.fantasyfootbalcalculator.com by messing around and seeing how an all Redskins fantasy team would shake out.  Through the first 4 rounds you would be legitimately competitive (Redskins players always draft later than they should):

 

Rd. 1 - Terrelle Pryor

Rd. 2 - Jordan Reed

Rd. 3. - Jamison Crowder

Rd. 4 - Kirk Cousins

Rd. 5 - Samaje Perine

Rd. 6 - Rob Kelley

Rd. 7 - Josh Doctson

Rd. 8 - Chris Thompson

Rd. 9 - Vernon Davis

Rd. 10 - Ryan Grant

Rd.  11 - Washington Defense/ Special Teams

Rd. 12 - D. Hopkins

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zCommander

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But according to this: NFL.com: Jay Gruden likes his big WRs in red zone: I love the fade. 

 

Coach I can warm up to the fade. I know the fade didn't work for us last year. But hello Pryor and Doctson (as noted). :)

 

Gruden: "I do like to have bigger receivers in the red zone here and there to be able to throw some fades, too. What the heck, you know, I love the fade," Gruden said, via The Washington Post. "You can throw the back-shoulder fade. You can throw it over the top. They can go up and get seam-balls."

 

Here is a telling stat from the article: Tight end Jordan Reed was by far the most successful red-zone threat last season. Leading Washington's receivers in catch rate was 5-8 Jamison Crowder(56.25 percent). Garcon and Jackson posted red-zone catch rates of 38.46 and 36.36 percent, respectively, last season. Last year with Cleveland, Pryor earned a 69.23 red-zone catch rate.

 

I know we lost 2 1000+ yards receivers but I can't wait for that TD in the end zone while Pryor just reaches up and catches the ball with one hand as his toes are inside the lines, barely. Chills. :) 

 

 

Here is the full article with some videos: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000824369/article/jay-gruden-likes-his-big-wrs-in-red-zone-i-love-the-fade

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Koolblue13

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2 hours ago, RandyHolt said:

 

Someone will chime in and remind us he is a long shot blah blah but I am right there with you.

 

 

4 hours ago, RandyHolt said:

Some fans seemed to give others grief for wanting tall WRs over the years. Decades.

Yeah, some fans have different opinions on message boards, where they like to go and discuss them.

 

Is your next post going to have a link with "you won't believe what this player did next...."  :rofl89:

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"Losing two 1000 yard WRs" is such overhyped clickbait. If we replaced them with no one then I could see the issue, but that's just not the case. The truth is that those two WRs lost a great system with a very good QB passing them the ball. Barring injury, Pryor/Doctson is an improvement. I'll miss Garcon's vice grips on the 3rd and 4 slants and I'll miss DJax tracking down a 40-yarder once a game, but the talent we have now is much better all around. Give me the big freakys all dayyy.

 

I hate that hearing good things about Grant feels like a negative. I want to root for him, but it's just not possible until he does something in a game.

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4 hours ago, zskins said:

But according to this: NFL.com: Jay Gruden likes his big WRs in red zone: I love the fade. 

 

Coach I can warm up to the fade. I know the fade didn't work for us last year. But hello Pryor and Doctson (as noted). :)

 

Gruden: "I do like to have bigger receivers in the red zone here and there to be able to throw some fades, too. What the heck, you know, I love the fade," Gruden said, via The Washington Post. "You can throw the back-shoulder fade. You can throw it over the top. They can go up and get seam-balls."

 

Here is a telling stat from the article: Tight end Jordan Reed was by far the most successful red-zone threat last season. Leading Washington's receivers in catch rate was 5-8 Jamison Crowder(56.25 percent). Garcon and Jackson posted red-zone catch rates of 38.46 and 36.36 percent, respectively, last season. Last year with Cleveland, Pryor earned a 69.23 red-zone catch rate.

 

I know we lost 2 1000+ yards receivers but I can't wait for that TD in the end zone while Pryor just reaches up and catches the ball with one hand as his toes are inside the lines, barely. Chills. :) 

 

 

Here is the full article with some videos: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000824369/article/jay-gruden-likes-his-big-wrs-in-red-zone-i-love-the-fade

https://twitter.com/johnnylocal/status/892734716725645313

https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/status/892731335143542785

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They really didn’t throw very many fades last year. They came in a bunch early in the season so impression stayed.

The #Redskins will continue to throw the fade in the red zone and they may have better results this year.

Seems Rich thinks with the increase in size, they will again attempt to use the fade in the RZ.

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I feel very optimistic about the wr group as a whole. I think Pryor develops into a legit #1 this year, if doctson is healthy then I think by season's end we'll be saying Pierre and desean who?

Can elite athletic ability and imposing size make up for burner speed and gritty toughness?

I think they can replace those two quite well and do so at a high level.

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Wyndorf25

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On 8/2/2017 at 9:27 AM, Reaper Skins said:

I pissed some people off over at www.fantasyfootbalcalculator.com by messing around and seeing how an all Redskins fantasy team would shake out.  Through the first 4 rounds you would be legitimately competitive (Redskins players always draft later than they should):

 

Rd. 1 - Terrelle Pryor

Rd. 2 - Jordan Reed

Rd. 3. - Jamison Crowder

Rd. 4 - Kirk Cousins

Rd. 5 - Samaje Perine

Rd. 6 - Rob Kelley

Rd. 7 - Josh Doctson

Rd. 8 - Chris Thompson

Rd. 9 - Vernon Davis

Rd. 10 - Ryan Grant

Rd.  11 - Washington Defense/ Special Teams

Rd. 12 - D. Hopkins

Lol that's awesome! I wish I could have been in that mock with you. At first I would have been pissed that you grabbed some guys ahead of me, but once I realized what you were doing I would have commented: HTTR.

 

My big concern with ranking the Redskins skill position players is how evenly the targets will be distributed. On the surface (given good health), I could see Pryor, Crowder, Doctson and Reed getting 1000 yards. Obviously, they will not all do that together, but a case could be made that each of them individually could produce at that level. The trick is figuring out which ones will, given thier ADP.

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1 hour ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Love this dude's videos.  Look forward to them every week.  He finally did one on a Redskins player.  I haven't even looked at it yet, but I'm sure it's good.

 

 

 

Wow... those "tight window" stats say a lot to me. I assume Garçon and Reed pretty much accounted for all of the completions there. But all Redskin pass catchers in total only had 20 whereas Pryor alone had 17 last season. 

 

And that's what should translate into the redzone. 

 

Docston excelled at that in college, too, so Kirk definitely has guys he can feel comfortable taking risks with.

 

Sounds obvious and we knew that's the difference with those guys, of course, but that actually put it in numbers there. Pretty cool. 

 

Thanks for posting this. Anyone else kind of feel bad for Hue Jackson at the start of this? :ols: 

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AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy

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I'm gonna enjoy Pryor this season, but I'm not gonna get too attached.  Bruce will offer him a grilled cheese and some ho-ho's after he has a monster year here and it'll be back to the AFC for him.

 

Stoked about Doctson.  He's a frisbee catching dog and even cheap ass Bruce can't screw up a deal with him for the next few years.  Fingers crossed. :)

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1 hour ago, thesubmittedone said:

 

Wow... those "tight window" stats say a lot to me. I assume Garçon and Reed pretty much accounted for all of the completions there. But all Redskin pass catchers in total only had 20 whereas Pryor alone had 17 last season. 

 

And that's what should translate into the redzone. 

 

Docston excelled at that in college, too, so Kirk definitely has guys he can feel comfortable taking risks with.

 

Sounds obvious and we knew that's the difference with those guys, of course, but that actually put it in numbers there. Pretty cool. 

 

Thanks for posting this. Anyone else kind of feel bad for Hue Jackson at the start of this? :ols: 

 

It might be unfair to think about Docston since it was one of his first outings but they tried like crazy to throw it to him in the red zone 1 game and came up empty.  Just his first time or so then he got injured but it was underwhelming.  Hopefully, he will stay healthy this season and blossom.

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We never saw the "real" Doctson last year, trust me on that.  I lived in Mansfield, Texas for the last 20ish years & saw him play at Mansfield Legacy and TCU.  He was not himself last year.  Watch this year and THEN rejudge him.  Pryor has an unbelievable story.  With what he has been though he must be STARVING.  I get him more now, after watching tat video.  It's not even about the football part to me, but his mental fortitude and work ethic.  We will be "must see TV" on the offensive side of the ball.  We could blow up and be ridiculously good there. If our defense is just a smidgen better, the sky is the limit, and I am serious. I am more excited about our Redskins than I have been in a long time.  One of the big keys is depth as well.  Hell, our back ups can actually come in and we shouldn't miss a beat and COULD be better in certain aspects.  Just think, if Doctson is truly healthy & Junior is back to form (or better per him), add in the draft & FA; well you get the picture.  Could be a "wow" year.  IF we could have somehow gotten Richardson we could be SB contenders. Who knows what will happen but I am stoked for this year.....REALLY stoked.  Hail.

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SWFLSkins

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3 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Doctson went to the medical tent after 7v7's, any updates on him that anyone's seen? Nightmare scenario if he's hurt or even worse if his Achilles starts acting up again 

Ben Standig Retweeted John Keim

And this becomes the day's concern.

Ben Standig added,

John KeimVerified account @john_keim
Receiver Josh Doctson is being looked at in the trainers' tent. He left after 7-on-7 work. There's no word on... http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0685947768149122503-4 …

#Redskins WR Josh Doctson left practice today with a hamstring injury. MRI tonight.

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      Josh Doctson leaving practice. Spent the bulk of the session in trainers tent. Gruden checked on him too.

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