Conn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Shhh....go gentle into that good ignore list night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, SkinsPassion4Life said: I'm trolling? no way...I'll be the first to bash Snyder and Bruce if they deserve it......But I'm not going to be part of a lynch mob anytime the media creates a firestorm. I don't see what the Dan and Bruce did wrong...except for terrible PR...and they really suck at PR...Tony Wylie should have been gone long ago. Donald, you're a Skins fan? Even if everything is true about Scott; why the **** do you go into the offseason with Scott. If Scott was always drunk; you wait until the start of free agency to get rid of him? If you didn't like the moves he made, you wait until the start of free agency to fire him? Nothing but pure incompetence Bruce already proved he was a failure as GM. If I were a free agent, I wouldn't sign a long term deal with the Skins. If you can some money for 1 year, I'd do it. Long Term, forget it. The team has no idea what it's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Well, he was fired last night, so.... I know. It was supposed to say liked SM. That's why I said this team os trying my patience. I can't figure out what the front office is doing. It's frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsMayne Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I kind of agree with sp4l... if scot was too drunk to work, the yea, you got to go. Both djax and garçon got very top dollar, if we are gonna pay Kirk and still have money we can't afford them. Personally, I would have been ok overpaying for one of them, but not both. If they lock cousins to a long term contract all will be forgiven. Missing the combine was probably scots last straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's kind of weird to see the deals that Garçon and Jackson got. Not that they are super shocking given expectations. But I think people thought Pryor would get a big deal. He didn't. People thought Alshon Jeffrey would get a big deal. He didn't (and apparently almost $5 million of his "$14 million salary are incentives). Even Brandon Marshall's contract is pretty reasonable (though there may be extenuating circumstances there). I think people in general over-estimated the WR market a bit. That seems something the GM (or whoever is in charge) got right here. So it's not all bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I liked Chris Ballard from the Chiefs but it's too late, he's a Colt . Brian Gutekunst, Eliot Wolf, Scott Pioli, in the end I seriously doubt those guys would want to deal with Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Barbour Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 12 hours ago, BurgundyBooger said: So the new "GM" would have to inherit Dan and Bruce's draft selections and free agent signings. Wonderful. They get to bring in the pieces while the new guy performs the maintenance. Actually. They would be Scot's. As its to late to change everything you've done. The board Scot created is most likely being used for FA and the Draft. So.....Bruce will of course take full credit if we get a good draft and our FA turn out being good contributions. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Odds are Bruce finds another puppet from Tampa to hire. Read one of the candidates was someone from Tampa. His name is Doug Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 13 hours ago, Califan007 said: Why are you guys going through the pretense of discussing this? Because torture loves misery...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's going to be Doug Williams. Remember the good old days? Championship pedigree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 9 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Shhh....go gentle into that good ignore list night... The ignore list is really nice now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Donald, you're a Skins fan? Even if everything is true about Scott; why the **** do you go into the offseason with Scott. If Scott was always drunk; you wait until the start of free agency to get rid of him? If you didn't like the moves he made, you wait until the start of free agency to fire him? Nothing but pure incompetence Bruce already proved he was a failure as GM. If I were a free agent, I wouldn't sign a long term deal with the Skins. If you can some money for 1 year, I'd do it. Long Term, forget it. The team has no idea what it's doing. So let me get this straight. You vilify (and rightly so) Dan and Allen because of past history but you give Scott a pass when his history shows a major drinking problem? And as a result two other teams have fired him even when they benefited from his picks in the past? What does that say to you? Take a step back and realize the medial loves to hate on Dan and Allen. They love to hate on our name. They love to point to dysfunction and at stupid decisions this team. A few years ago it was, how stupid is the front office for spending money like a drunk sailor now its how cheap and jealous Allen is. And in this situation, in our great new society where you need to be politically correct on how you say I am going to the bathroom because God forbid we offend someone that thinks taking a crap is a sin, the team gets vilified. Supposedly you have other people on other team saying how terrible Scott was treaded. Why because he thought he can be effective as a functioning alcoholic (Scott's words, "now I only drink beer mostly so I have the problem under control"). We will never know exactly how this thing went down. Most will believe it was the ego of Allen and Dan that couldn't see Scottie succeed. I tend to think Scottie was drinking heavily, coming into Redskins park drunk and finally the team said man go home and get yourself cleaned up. Well he didn't and we cut bait. I have no issue with that. We don't know how much the team tried to help this guy, we don't know how much effort he put into it, but the bottom line is this is a multi-billion dollar organization and in the end the team is what matters not Scott. And even if I don't have a great love of Allen, let give the dude at least a little credit, when he came in we were in CAP hell year after year. At least he fixed that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Mayock is my first choice because he is such a regular guy and loves Draftspeak. But there is a gal ... on ESPN I think ... that specializes in analytics .... she is able to pick scores by analyzing historical data on her laptop, etc. She is my second choice. In the Skins' Org ... Dan/Bruce make all the $$$$ decisions ... and Jay has veto power over players ... so someone who just functions as a "chief player scout" would fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Donald, you're a Skins fan? Even if everything is true about Scott; why the **** do you go into the offseason with Scott. If Scott was always drunk; you wait until the start of free agency to get rid of him? If you didn't like the moves he made, you wait until the start of free agency to fire him? Nothing but pure incompetence Bruce already proved he was a failure as GM. If I were a free agent, I wouldn't sign a long term deal with the Skins. If you can some money for 1 year, I'd do it. Long Term, forget it. The team has no idea what it's doing. And you have no idea what you are talking about! Apparently, enough was enough! They didn't care when! Scot hasn't been DOING HIS JOB FOR MONTHS! And they covered for his ***! Bruce lied! Yes, he did. You don't trash a player or FO personnel in front of the camera. 18 minutes ago, TheGreek1973 said: So let me get this straight. You vilify (and rightly so) Dan and Allen because of past history but you give Scott a pass when his history shows a major drinking problem? And as a result two other teams have fired him even when they benefited from his picks in the past? What does that say to you? Take a step back and realize the medial loves to hate on Dan and Allen. They love to hate on our name. They love to point to dysfunction and at stupid decisions this team. A few years ago it was, how stupid is the front office for spending money like a drunk sailor now its how cheap and jealous Allen is. And in this situation, in our great new society where you need to be politically correct on how you say I am going to the bathroom because God forbid we offend someone that thinks taking a crap is a sin, the team gets vilified. Supposedly you have other people on other team saying how terrible Scott was treaded. Why because he thought he can be effective as a functioning alcoholic (Scott's words, "now I only drink beer mostly so I have the problem under control"). We will never know exactly how this thing went down. Most will believe it was the ego of Allen and Dan that couldn't see Scottie succeed. I tend to think Scottie was drinking heavily, coming into Redskins park drunk and finally the team said man go home and get yourself cleaned up. Well he didn't and we cut bait. I have no issue with that. We don't know how much the team tried to help this guy, we don't know how much effort he put into it, but the bottom line is this is a multi-billion dollar organization and in the end the team is what matters not Scott. And even if I don't have a great love of Allen, let give the dude at least a little credit, when he came in we were in CAP hell year after year. At least he fixed that problem. They never were going to get the benefit of the doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Monk4thaHALL said: Yeah, Watson can be our GM. Skynet can be our Director of college scouting. WOPR can be our Pro Personnel Director. HAL can be the owner. What will TARS BE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, RabidFan said: What will TARS BE? I don't know. You have the floor. All I know is that Seven of Nine will be my personal assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin21502 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 18 hours ago, pcbothwel said: What are you talking about? Tomsula is one of the best DLine coaches in the NFL. We should be lucky to have him. post had nothing to do with Tomsula's abilities as a DL coach. I am glad we have him. More to do with the Niners offseason of hell a few years ago that Snyder/Allen are trying to surpass that culminated in the hiring of Tomsula as HC. If I am Tomsula I wonder what I did to go through those things. Luckily it looks like he is being given some new pieces to work with on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Gregpeck99 said: Mayock is my first choice because he is such a regular guy and loves Draftspeak. But there is gal ... on ESPN I think ... that specializes in analytics .... she is able to pick scores by analyzing historical data on her laptop, etc. She is my second choice. In the Skins' Org ... Dan/Bruce make all the $$$$ decisions ... and Jay has veto power over players ... so someone who just functions as a "chief player scout" would fit right in. This. This is why you are the "Dark Cloud". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike42 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 17 hours ago, rick7423 said: Mike Mayock has a promising career at ESPN, if he come to the Skins, he is essentially committing career suicide. That seems to be the pattern. Kill what career? A career on the NFL network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 39 minutes ago, Morneblade said: This. This is why you are the "Dark Cloud". Yup Blade ... and every year I root for the Skins I get "cloudier" ... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, Gregpeck99 said: Yup Blade ... and every year I root for the Skins I get "cloudier" ... LOL! Well, I really can't fault you there. Every year seems to take more and more of my sanity as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, mike42 said: Kill what career? A career on the NFL network? I would bet it is more lucrative. He's not Jon Gruden on MNF or anything but it a a much easier, cushy job. And I guarantee you it's a more stable, safe career. The guy is not a football guy. He has NO experience. He's Matt Miller or Walterfootball with a larger platform because he got in on the draftnik craze earlier and used to have his own ideas. I can't even belive we're discussing this. It's a joke to even think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 What about Louis Riddick he has been here before? He's been mentioned as a GM candiitate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's going to be Doug Williams, and Allen isn't going anywhere. But if I'm wrong, and we start from scratch with no Allen to taint the search...I would want a college personnel guy, not a pro personnel guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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