No Excuses Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Might as well have a thread for what is going to be the stupidest use of our tax dollars ever. "Mexico will pay for it*" *later (never) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 GOP's main agenda seems to be paying billions for a stupid wall that won't make any fundamental difference in our society, cutting taxes for millionaires and increasing our deficits while doing it, and repealing a healthcare law without a replacement that will eventually lead to millions of people without insurance. Oh and in order to accomplish these lofty goals they are going to let the president-elect skate by with undermining our national security with his pro-Russia agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 ^^^^You said what I feel. They are all assholes in bondage to the rich and corporations. Just disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 So is this some athletic event ? Seriously though, how pathetic. As LSF stated "disgusted". I don't wan't to build a wall based on one thing...Home of the free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: GOP's main agenda seems to be paying billions for a stupid wall that won't make any fundamental difference in our society, cutting taxes for millionaires and increasing our deficits while doing it, and repealing a healthcare law without a replacement that will eventually lead to millions of people without insurance. Oh and in order to accomplish these lofty goals they are going to let the president-elect skate by with undermining our national security with his pro-Russia agenda. I don't think "the wall" will ever be completed. It's going to be one of those projects that ends up being an enormous waste of money but plenty of contractors will cash in big time. Well done Middle America. Prosperity is right around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 There can't be a way this passes through congress, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The Star Wars of the 21 21st Century, some rich people and corporations will make billions of our dollars while people die because they can't get the health care they need or the retirement funds they earned. 1 minute ago, Springfield said: There can't be a way this passes through congress, right? Unless a majority of them come to their senses, but think, it's a huge corporate welfare program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Why don't people ever complain about the actual wall that we've built in other parts of the border? Why is the proposal to complete the wall such a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: Why don't people ever complain about the actual wall that we've built in other parts of the border? Why is the proposal to complete the wall such a big deal Because trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Seems to me that ending the silly war on drugs would be the better solution to stopping the dangerous element from entering the country, plus it would actually be a profitable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, elkabong82 said: Seems to me that ending the silly war on drugs would be the better solution to stopping the dangerous element from entering the country, plus it would actually be a profitable solution. I agree that legalization is the best way to disarm the cartels but I don't get why so many think keeping our borders open is a smart decision, regardless of your ethnic background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think border control and immigration control in the sense that the country needs to be able to control who comes in and how long they stay is a legitimate and necessary objective. I assume physical barrier along parts of the border is necessary towards that objective. I don't know that totally walling off the southern border is desirable or whether even fiscally sound (how much more does it cost than a partial barrier plus other enforcement and how much more effective would it be?). I do know that Trump unequivocally promised that he'll get Mexico to pay for it. Now he's moved on to he'll get Mexico to pay US back later. I say it's another outright lie he has told the American public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 There used to be a VISTA project that was to be installed in all Custom offices in airports and borders. It was a huge IT system to track visas, have a fingerprint component, and other stuff. A client company was working on that while I was working on another proposal. I don't know what ever happened to the program, I do know that there were a lot of amendments and it was going to be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I imagine a Magic Card called, "Wall of Rio Grande" Enemy pays for it entering the game. White cards are immune to it, black cards enable you to search through their deck. Red cards enable you to steal their land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, jschuck12001 said: I agree that legalization is the best way to disarm the cartels but I don't get why so many think keeping our borders open is a smart decision, regardless of your ethnic background. Seems to me nobody is making that argument. But what is being argued is that a giant wall would be costly in a time we can't afford it and would also be pointless because the dangerous elements are already using tunnels, small planes, boats, etc. We could increase border patrols and stations and it wouldn't cost as much as wall construction and maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, elkabong82 said: Seems to me nobody is making that argument. But what is being argued is that a giant wall would be costly in a time we can't afford it and would also be pointless because the dangerous elements are already using tunnels, small planes, boats, etc. We could increase border patrols and stations and it wouldn't cost as much as wall construction and maintenance. We can afford it if we stop funding other people's problems and worry about our own. We have enough leverage on Mexico we can either make them pay for it or if they choose not to we can put a serious squeeze on their economy if Trump chose to take that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, jschuck12001 said: We can afford it if we stop funding other people's problems and worry about our own. We have enough leverage on Mexico we can either make them pay for it or if they choose not to we can put a serious squeeze on their economy if Trump chose to take that route. Yes, let's make their people suffer even more because their government didn't pay for something we wanted and we built. Given that I don't see Trump being re-elected, it's highly doubtful the wall ever gets finished anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 We can institute the shoot on sight policy that East Germany used. Wait, East Germany isn't in existence anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: We can institute the shoot on sight policy that East Germany used. Wait, East Germany isn't in existence anymore. Poor arguement. East Germany was shooting people trying to leave, not people trying to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Same action, different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Poor arguement. East Germany was shooting people trying to leave, not people trying to get in. All lives matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 There is an entire cottage industry in Mexico making cheap ladders near the parts of the border that already have a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, jschuck12001 said: We can afford it if we stop funding other people's problems and worry about our own. We have enough leverage on Mexico we can either make them pay for it or if they choose not to we can put a serious squeeze on their economy if Trump chose to take that route. You know a great way to increase illegal immigration to the U.S.? Put a squeeze on the Mexican economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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