Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Been a couple articles lately including a tweet from Cravens hinting at the hybrid idea coming to the end and moving him to a serious position of need instead. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/12/22/sua-cravens-says-hes-moving-to-safety/ I've been wishing we would do this, and bring him in the box if needed, a safety that can play linebacker, NOT a linebacker that can play safety. Some of you may better understand what you're seeing on defense then me, but do ya'll feel the same way? As talented as he is, I want him as part of the last line of the defense, not just bunched into the interior traffic. I really, REALLY want at least one of our safety positions solidfied, and this is a sure fire start, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Im worried about his speed...4.7 in the forty is slow for a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 No we need to focus on getting good FS and SS in the draft and FA. It will make a huge difference to our front as well. Let the guy learn and find his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'd like a rangy FS to go with Cravens at SS, plus two new ILB's please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 40 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: I'd like a rangy FS to go with Cravens at SS, plus two new ILB's please. All I want for Christmas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Yes he should. Think they had visions of him being a flex type like Buchanan but I'd like to see if he can solidify SS for us. Has great instincts and always is around the ball. I think he will fit in well. He isn't an answer at ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Barbour Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Barry system doesnt have a SS and FS people. The safeties are interchangeable. I dont think he should go SS full time though. I prefer him as a Mike Backer in Dime packages and Nickel. He can play safety in our base packages. I think that's the coaches plan all along as they were teaching him linebacker first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Want him to play safety rest of year for sure. Anything to keep Whitner off the field. I've seen enough of Cravens getting brutalised by blockers when at ILB for one year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskn4eva Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The problem with Cravens is, to me, he is a luxury defensive pick. When you have a good defense and you want a add a guy that is versatile and can do a lot of stuff, he's a good pick. I dont think he is a good pick when your defense sucks or you are trying to build a foundation on defense. Not saying he isnt a good player, but that pick could have been used elsewhere. That said...moving him to SS cant hurt...Whitner is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Should have just did this from the jump instead of wasting a year at linebacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Could he turn out to be the next ST? I'd love it if he can become that, by moving to SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It is a better position for him. He is honestly too small to play the linebacker position. Already sidelined twice--once due to a concussion, and once due to an elbow injury. As far as his speed, I am not worried about that at all. Kam Chancellor's 40 yard dash was 4.69 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Could he turn out to be the next ST? I'd love it if he can become that, by moving to SS Could moving a player to SS make him like a fantastic FS? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I like him as a nickle backer, a Monte Coleman type guy, more than as a safety. Thing is, I think that the nicklebacker with the pass crazy NFL and all the really good TEs is probably a starter vs. a reserve. My concern is whether the hits he is taking as a lb are more than he can take. He seems to have gotten hurt a lot this year. I'm not sure if that's a rookie thing, a size thing, a position thing, or just a bad luck thing. If he can physically play the position, nicklebacker (which is probably more suited to a 4-3) seems the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, jsharrin55 said: Could moving a player to SS make him like a fantastic FS? Probably not. ST was a FS? Oops. Didn't realize that. I was young back when I first started following the skins, i didn't totally understand who was at which position on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, Cooleyfan1993 said: ST was a FS? Oops. Didn't realize that. I was young back when I first started following the skins, i didn't totally understand who was at which position on the defense. ST did a bit of both as he could lay the wood. But his ability to play 'center fielder' was amazing. I think Cravens can be good, but I don't see that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, jsharrin55 said: ST did a bit of both as he could lay the wood. But his ability to play 'center fielder' was amazing. I think Cravens can be good, but I don't see that level. Is there a player in the upcoming draft that you think could be at that level, or a player for the rest of our lifetime that could be at that level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I don't follow college as much, so I'm not much help there. I hope we see another ST caliber safety, but hopefully as a Redskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sean Taylor's legend has also grown somewhat out of proportion to his performance. He was on the verge of being a great player and maybe was a great player, but he also had quite a few rough games and blew a number of plays whether it was because of penalties or just bone headed misses. By far, he was our best safety, but he wasn't perfect and he wasn't always Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: I'd like a rangy FS to go with Cravens at SS, plus two new ILB's please. This. Exactly this. We could sign a DT, ILB and S and draft the same three positions with the first three picks and I'd be ecstatic. I'd like to see Cravens and Everett as the starting safeties the last two games . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, Burgold said: Sean Taylor's legend has also grown somewhat out of proportion to his performance. He was on the verge of being a great player and maybe was a great player, but he also had quite a few rough games and blew a number of plays whether it was because of penalties or just bone headed misses. By far, he was our best safety, but he wasn't perfect and he wasn't always Superman. Those are fighting words around these parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 See I'm not alone. I don't think Cravens has the range to play center field the way Sean did, why I suggested SS. Ya, Taylor wasn't perfect, but he absolutely could move sideline to sideline. That's another thing that's killing me about this defense, total lack of speed. We can't gang tackle because we can't get there, especially at ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsPassion4Life Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Cravens could be a Kam Chancellor type. He should have moved to Safety in pre-season when it was obvious that Bruton was brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinssRvA Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The answer is a solid NO. I cannot believe what I'm seeing from people. This guy is not a safety. I have been a huge USC fan forever and it's hard for me to admit he's just a nickel backer. Sure,he can make plays. But you guys are nuts if you want to make him a safety full tine. he's not the answer there, period. Look elsewhere 44 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: See I'm not alone. I don't think Cravens has the range to play center field the way Sean did, why I suggested SS. Ya, Taylor wasn't perfect, but he absolutely could move sideline to sideline. That's another thing that's killing me about this defense, total lack of speed. We can't gang tackle because we can't get there, especially at ILB. Cravens would be considered slow 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: This. Exactly this. We could sign a DT, ILB and S and draft the same three positions with the first three picks and I'd be ecstatic. I'd like to see Cravens and Everett as the starting safeties the last two games . I wish I could dislike this. I think you're a good poster, but this is just wrong. Cravens has no business on the back end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Burgold said: Sean Taylor's legend has also grown somewhat out of proportion to his performance. He was on the verge of being a great player and maybe was a great player, but he also had quite a few rough games and blew a number of plays whether it was because of penalties or just bone headed misses. By far, he was our best safety, but he wasn't perfect and he wasn't always Superman. Just picture earl thomas, but 5inches taller and 30 pounds heavier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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