Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Larry said: Part of me actually wishes that were true. That they'll spend the next four years staging photo ops and rallies, and burning straw figures of Hillary, and not actually implement any actual policies. But unfortunately, I think the GOP has demonstrated that they are actually brutally efficient at implementing absolutely devastating policies. (For example, I'm looking at the laundry list of things they want to ram through in SC, with the last part of their power.) Sorry, I meant their supporters. One of my best friends claimed they this was rural America rising up against municipalities...apparently by electing someone in the biggest city in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 hours ago, tshile said: I think you're being a bit generous. I'd say he only cares about himself and what he perceives to be his reputation. At this point I have no reason to believe he would not throw a family member under the bus if it furthered his goals. Notice I didn't put his wife on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Hersh said: It seems they simply hate Obama and Hillary and don't really stand for any policies. That's been my observation. The only reason they hate Obama and Hillary is because they are in the democratic spotlight. Whoever is the next democratic nominee for president will then become the most evil human to ever walk the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 41 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: That's been my observation. The only reason they hate Obama and Hillary is because they are in the democratic spotlight. Whoever is the next democratic nominee for president will then become the most evil human to ever walk the planet. I agree completely. Hate for Obama is irrational. I mean, disagree with him, fine. But the guy is a good person. I think some people don't realize the difficulties of being the first black President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Hersh said: I agree completely. Hate for Obama is irrational. I mean, disagree with him, fine. But the guy is a good person. I think some people don't realize the difficulties of being the first black President. Unless this Republican regime is so bad that people finally wake up. Trump seems to be building the extreme right fantasy cabinet. No experience and everyone hating the mission of the agency they are being tasked to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Burgold said: Unless this Republican regime is so bad that people finally wake up. Trump seems to be building the extreme right fantasy cabinet. No experience and everyone hating the mission of the agency they are being tasked to run. Can you honestly think of one scenario that would make most of the Right realize the Republican regime is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Can you honestly think of one scenario that would make most of the Right realize the Republican regime is wrong? Yes. No jobs coming back, losing health care, and a fight against minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, Hersh said: Yes. No jobs coming back, losing health care, and a fight against minimum wage. And what exactly in the history of the Right makes you think they would wake up for that and not just blame it on the Left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nonniey Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: That's been my observation. The only reason they hate Obama and Hillary is because they are in the democratic spotlight. Whoever is the next democratic nominee for president will then become the most evil human to ever walk the planet. Ah the old pot calling the kettle black gambit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, nonniey said: Ah the old pot calling the kettle black gambit. Nope. Sure, some Democrats are like that, but most Dems, as an example, think Bush and his policies were terrible. I certainly don't hate Bush and his family. Many of my conservative friends HATE Clinton and they hate the Obamas. I don't think Laura Bush was ever personally attacked. I guess I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 31 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: And what exactly in the history of the Right makes you think they would wake up for that and not just blame it on the Left? They can look forward to 8 yrs of Obama's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 32 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Perry cartoon I figured some of you might like Rick, after all he presided over probably the nations biggest alt electric energy and distribution buildup of any state......and supported Al Gore Guess I was wrong ...must be that R before his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: And what exactly in the history of the Right makes you think they would wake up for that and not just blame it on the Left? The left has zero power right now, jobs coming back was Trumps central theme and those in the GOP that got health insurance via Obamacare, if they lose that it's impacts them directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, nonniey said: Ah the old pot calling the kettle black gambit. I've repeatedly said that Kasich was the best candidate during this cycle. I am a novice to politics and came in 8 years ago with a blank slate. My entire family is Republican. It's not hard to look around and see which of the parties has bigger problems right now and it's not even close. Speaking of the pot calling the kettle black, didn't you say something about the left having a problem with fake news yesterday or the day before? Have you ever noticed Bob Marley oba- oba- serving you as you mingle with the good people he meets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, Hersh said: The left has zero power right now, jobs coming back was Trumps central theme and those in the GOP that got health insurance via Obamacare, if they lose that it's impacts them directly. I heard this one: "Well, if there hadn't been no Obamacare, there wouldn't be nothin' to take away."(read in rural Southern Dixie Redneck voice)...to which I say, "AND YOU'D HAVE NO INSURANCE, YOU IDIOT!" edit, rephrase: I should've said I wanted to make that response. I held it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Hersh said: The left has zero power right now, jobs coming back was Trumps central theme and those in the GOP that got health insurance via Obamacare, if they lose that it's impacts them directly. You will always have California....unless it secedes and splits up. or falls off into the ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Hersh said: I agree completely. Hate for Obama is irrational. I mean, disagree with him, fine. But the guy is a good person. I think some people don't realize the difficulties of being the first black President. I would make that "of being a Democratic President". I dont want want to paint Obama as overcoming superhuman obsticals. I think if you take the way the GOP treated Bill Clinton, and add in 8 years of party purity purges, you conclude that any Dem probably gets treated about the same. 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Can you honestly think of one scenario that would make most of the Right realize the Republican regime is wrong? A massive administration of Lithium in the nation's drinking water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Larry said: I would make that "of being a Democratic President". I dont want want to paint Obama as overcoming superhuman obsticals. I think if you take the way the GOP treated Bill Clinton, and add in 8 years of party purity purges, you conclude that any Dem probably gets treated about the same. That may be true. I just view Obama as having more character and morals than Clinton as a person and family man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Hersh said: That may be true. I just view Obama as having more character and morals than Clinton as a person and family man. That's a low bar , but yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 50 minutes ago, nonniey said: Ah the old pot calling the kettle black gambit. Ah the old false equivelancy gambit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: I heard this one: "Well, if there hadn't been no Obamacare, there wouldn't be nothin' to take away."(read in rural Southern Dixie Redneck voice)...to which I say, "AND YOU'D HAVE NO INSURANCE, YOU IDIOT!" edit, rephrase: I should've said I wanted to make that response. I held it in. When Obamacare goes (though I think they may end up renaming it and making minor changes that they will call a complete overhaul) and things get worse, eventually rural voters will have to face up to who is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Hersh said: That may be true. I just view Obama as having more character and morals than Clinton as a person and family man. Absolutely. He's been married to one woman, and both of their children are from that very same marriage/relationship. That can't be said by damn near anyone nowadays. Solid stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HOF44 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Hersh said: When Obamacare goes (though I think they may end up renaming it and making minor changes that they will call a complete overhaul) and things get worse, eventually rural voters will have to face up to who is in charge. You are partially right. They will alter it and their base will get angry, but they will still blame it on the remaining parts of Obamacare. NO chance they repeal it completely. They would own the results then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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