twa Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 46 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said: "Knowing" in the public sphere and "knowing" in the intelligence community are two very different things. The CIA said nothing firm prior to the election because they didn't have enough. Don't get me wrong, there was a ton of circumstantial evidence that Russia favored Trump, an unbelievable amount of it. But there's a difference between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence. It appears the CIA recently gained the latter while previously only having the former. It's like the difference between placing an alleged murderer at the scene of the crime, with a motive, and with no one else around (circumstantial) and finding the gun they used with the alleged murderers fingerprints and maybe some of the victim's blood on it (direct). The former might be enough to convict, but the latter is, well, a smoking gun. From what has been said by those briefed it comes down to the CIA inferring it from the evidence ,while the FBI sees no clear evidence Russia was behind it. They use different disciplines and the FBI prefers not to guess (as you saw in the Hillary server mess) From what I read the RNC was not hacked, but rather some affiliated. Russia has been playing games here for a long time and even hacked the White House about 4 yrs ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Quote McFarland’s theatrical performance might have been lighthearted, but its breezy and simplistic tone underscores why national security experts in both parties worry she is unqualified for what national security veterans say is among the hardest — and most important — jobs at the White House. McFarland, whose initials stand for Kathleen Troia, has not worked in government since the mid-1980s. Her main occupation for the past decade was as a national security analyst for Fox News, where her contract ended this fall. Her appointment, announced in late November, has fueled concerns that Trump is not taking seriously enough the need for a top-flight foreign policy team at a moment of high global instability. Though less visible than the national security adviser, a job for which Trump has picked retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the National Security Council’s principal deputy carries an even more crushing workload, NSC veterans say. Coordinating the government’s foreign policy, intelligence and national security arms is a herculean task requiring endless hours of meetings among deputy officials who develop policy options for cabinet and agency chiefs, and the president himself, to consider. “The schedule is relentless. It’s incredibly exhausting. You are under constant pressure to respond to events and breaking news in real time,” says Juleanne Smith, a former national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. Quote McFarland, 65, last worked in government three decades ago, as a public affairs official in Ronald Reagan’s Pentagon. In 2006, she mounted an improbable bid for Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate seat that ended in a GOP primary drubbing. She then became a paid commentator for Fox News, which people who know McFarland said was her springboard onto Trump’s team. McFarland’s stock may also have been boosted by her friendship with her onetime boss, former national security adviser and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who has spoken to Trump several times. “I have very high regard for her. Her knowledge of international affairs has developed in all the years I’ve known her,” Kissinger said in a brief phone interview. “She has a strong personality, but with great tact and personal skill, which is needed to handle the inherently complex relationships of a White House.” Kissinger said he recently met with Flynn and McFarland for two hours. But many of those who are skeptical of the McFarland appointment — a group that includes NSC officials of both parties, speaking to POLITICO under condition of anonymity — dismiss the fabled Kissinger’s praise as loyalty to an old friend and a nod to the reality of her new influence. And you thought Samantha Power was under-qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, twa said: From what has been said by those briefed it comes down to the CIA inferring it from the evidence ,while the FBI sees no clear evidence Russia was behind it. They use different disciplines and the FBI prefers not to guess (as you saw in the Hillary server mess) From what I read the RNC was not hacked, but rather some affiliated. Russia has been playing games here for a long time and even hacked the White House about 4 yrs ago I want to point out that even if Russia did hack the DNC with the intent on influencing the election and succeeded in that effort there is no action that can be taken against the results of the election. The US can take action against Russia (even if there is no proof - not saying there isn't any - but a nation state always can act against other nation states if feel it is in their interests - ie what Russia may have done to us - what the Japanese did do to us 75 years ago etc. - if they are willing to deal with the consequences of said actions) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGoodBits Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Um... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Tillerson would be fine and a in depth look resolve doubts to any but the obtuse. Some are taking things like McCain's red flag comment a bit far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Um... Tick data matters, my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Walsh so super pro-Trump before the election. It was like he was applying for a gig with him. "Trump loves this Country, Obama and Clinton hate it...". Now that Trump won and the market for people like him to be anti-gov from the right wing is going to drop because people don't tune into hear folks defend their guy. They want to be angry at somebody else. He's switching sides Sorry Joe. This isn't the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Read this thread to understand why: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 "Sweet potato Saddam" is the best moniker I've heard for Drumpf this year. Or ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Well...that was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 "since this means I can't really be a voice of responsible criticism of this admin now..... See Ya!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 God I hope the SoS doesn't get confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 That SEC investigation looks rather speculative.....especially after this election. future environmental law impacts and future oil price projection values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacase Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 6 hours ago, FanboyOf91 said: Tick data matters, my friends. So Stein should be flagged for fake news? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DogofWar1 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 So will Rick Perry eliminate himself? After all, Perry wanted to get rid of education, energy, and uh, uh, I forget the third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Interesting that the EU is discussing extending sanctions on Russia this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 durn dirt farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Another Texan bends the knee to a New Yorker. Typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Rick Perry is a solid pick...to manage a Chevy dealership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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