The Evil Genius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Do any of the lawyers here concur? https://www.thedailybeast.com/stormy-daniels-legal-strategy-strongly-suggests-she-has-photos-of-donald-trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, LadySkinsFan said: IOW, he was punished for lying about a blowjob under oath fixed that for you i'm on your alls side on this for the most part, but he wasn't punished for an affair. he was punished for lying under oath. 31 minutes ago, Hersh said: Seriously? A picture, given the context and the fact that things don’t quite line up as the woman originally claimed, is worse than Trump having affairs?? That picture is more reprehensible than actual affairs? Wow. One is sexual assault The other is an affair with a consenting sex industry worker I don't know which one is actually worse but I have hard time thinking either is significantly worse than the other to warrant being perplexed that someone might see it the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, bearrock said: On the rank of repugnant behavior, I think a President having an affair with a White House intern or what Franken did (if a grown man takes a picture cupping or pretending to cup a woman's breast, I don't think you can dust it off as a sophomoric joke) is more reprehensible than a rich man having an affair with a consenting porn star. Even paying the porn star to keep things under wraps would be less disgusting than the above two. So - to be clear - you think a man pretending to cup a women's breast is WORSE than a man cheating on his wife who just gave birth to his son with a porn star and playboy model? 5 minutes ago, tshile said: I don't know which one is actually worse but I have hard time thinking either is significantly worse than the other to warrant being perplexed that someone might see it the other way. Don't know if you are married. I am. I can tell with certainty how my wife would differentiate between me having a spoof picture of me touching a women's breast versus having unprotected sex with a porn star. She'd be seriously pissed about the first and I would be (rightly) in deep ****. The second - I am walking down the road with whats left of my life in two black bin bags. Both acts are wrong. But there is a scale here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, MartinC said: So - to be clear - you think a man pretending to cup a women's breast is WORSE than a man cheating on his wife who just gave birth to his son with a porn star and playboy model? Why do ya'll ignore he was accused of much more than that incident? I think it hilarious he was forced to resign so the #MeToo crowd can virtue signal. Just another white male acceptable loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, zoony said: Do you realize how easy it is to turn this around on Clinton? Really easy. It's also really easy to point out that that's ALL the GOP has. Whatabout Clinton!!! Whatabout the guy who was elected in 1996?!?! Also really easy to point out how full of **** they all are since they obviously don't actually care about any of the things they condemned the Clintons for... they only care if the person has a -R or a -D after their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Im sorry, but why are we comparing bad things people did again? Do you think what Trump did was bad, yes or no? (having affairs while his wife was pregnant and nursing their child) Of course it was bad 50 minutes ago, Llevron said: Please explain how. Please explain how you find it that this dude ****ing a porn star, unprotected, while his wife was nursing his baby and then ****ing a playboy model the same weekend BETTER than taking the picture Franken took. Please explain this better cause right now im not sure I follow. In what way, exactly, is what Trump did less disgusting than the picture? 36 minutes ago, Hersh said: Seriously? A picture, given the context and the fact that things don’t quite line up as the woman originally claimed, is worse than Trump having affairs?? That picture is more reprehensible than actual affairs? Wow. 1 minute ago, MartinC said: So - to be clear - you think a man pretending to cup a women's breast is WORSE than a man cheating on his wife who just gave birth to his son with a porn star and playboy model? I guess I need to clarify that I'm talking about repugnant behavior from public figures. From Melania Trump's perspective, of course the affairs are worse then her husband harassing a woman on a USO tour with him. But I view that as a personal matter. Al Franken treated Tweeden like an object at best and committed sexual harassment at worst. To me that's worse as a public figure then what Trump did. But I'll agree with Tshile. They are both wrong and reprehensible and probably not worth debating which was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, twa said: Why do ya'll ignore he was accused of much more than that incident? I think it hilarious he was forced to resign so the #MeToo crowd can virtue signal. Just another white male acceptable loss. To be honest I lose track of what these buffoons have been up to. Both parties are full of hypocrites and folks who use their positions to fill their bank accounts and beds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, twa said: Why do ya'll ignore he was accused of much more than that incident? We talking about Al or Donnie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: We talking about Al or Donnie? REVERSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, MartinC said: Don't know if you are married. I am. I can tell with certainty how my wife would differentiate between me having a spoof picture of me touching a women's breast versus having unprotected sex with a porn star. She'd be seriously pissed about the first and I would be (rightly) in deep ****. The second - I am walking down the road with whats left of my life in two black bin bags. Both acts are wrong. But there is a scale here. Yes I am married. And more than her being seriously pissed, it would potentially destroy our family and put our kids in the middle of a nasty divorce. Which would be way worse in my book than her being seriously pissed. And im not sure whether that is better or worse than sexually assaulting a woman. Seems like sexual assault would be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, MartinC said: The second - I am walking down the road with whats left of my life in two black bin bags. Damn, she'd let you take TWO? Sounds like a sweetheart.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, LD0506 said: Damn, she'd let you take TWO? Sounds like a sweetheart.............. Fair point. I'd be lucky to get out with my balls still attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: We talking about Al or Donnie? Picture if you will...Al and Donnie in bed naked. you can thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, LD0506 said: Damn, she'd let you take TWO? Sounds like a sweetheart.............. The 2nd one is for his entrails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I actually do care about the character of the President and what they do/don't do with their wives (I did with Clinton in the '90s but I was also super partisan Republican back then). Clearly, the country doesn't which brings up the bigger issue with Trump and Cohen. The 130k hush money, the intimidation and possible illegal use of campaign funds. All worthy of investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, tshile said: fixed that for you i'm on your alls side on this for the most part, but he wasn't punished for an affair. he was punished for lying under oath. One is sexual assault The other is an affair with a consenting sex industry worker I don't know which one is actually worse but I have hard time thinking either is significantly worse than the other to warrant being perplexed that someone might see it the other way. The picture was sexual assault? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Hersh said: The picture was sexual assault? Really? I don't know. I've been told I'm not allowed to make the rules. You all tell me, is it sexual assault? I thought that was why he resigned? There were a handful of issues with women ranging from inappropriate to sexual assault? I believe, as you pointed out, in some cases the story seems to be different depending who's telling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, tshile said: I don't know. I've been told I'm not allowed to make the rules. You all tell me, is it sexual assault? I thought that was why he resigned? There were a handful of issues with women ranging from inappropriate to sexual assault? I believe, as you pointed out, in some cases the story seems to be different depending who's telling it. I’m only talking specifically about that picture since the original comparison was that picture vs Trump cheating. I’m very wary of lumping that picture into the sexual assault category. I don’t really feel like rehashing all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: Clearly, the country doesn't which brings up the bigger issue with Trump and Cohen. I don't know if the country doesn't care, or if it's just low on the list of things to be outraged about. I think we've accepted our politicians are pieces of garbage for the most part. If the circumstances are bad enough it will cost you your job (Edwards for example) I doubt this will cost him his job (unless the threat and hush money turn into something) mainly because the people who support him have made it clear they have no conscience. 5 minutes ago, Hersh said: I’m very wary of lumping that picture into the sexual assault category. That's fine, i'm not interested in rehashing it either. If it's not sexual assault to pretend/try/fake grab a womans breasts then yeah that's not as bad as having sex with another woman. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, tshile said: I don't know if the country doesn't care, or if it's just low on the list of things to be outraged about. I think we've accepted our politicians are pieces of garbage for the most part. If the circumstances are bad enough it will cost you your job (Edwards for example) I doubt this will cost him his job (unless the threat and hush money turn into something) mainly because the people who support him have made it clear they have no conscience. That's fine, i'm not interested in rehashing it either. If it's not sexual assault to pretend/try/fake grab a womans breasts then yeah that's not as bad as having sex with another woman. Sure. btw, I don't really care about politicians cheating, though what Clinton did was wrong as a POTUS/intern relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hersh said: btw, I don't really care about politicians cheating, though what Clinton did was wrong as a POTUS/intern relationship. yeah when a person with authority or control over another person's life (not limited to work, could be education or family related) courts that other person it's more than just cheating on your wife/husband. it's abuse of power in a position. i do care about people cheating, especially people who ask for the public's trust. i also recognize people make mistakes and try to be careful about when i choose to swing my bat of morality at others. when there's a pattern of behavior i tend to start swinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: which brings up the bigger issue with Trump and Cohen. The 130k hush money, the intimidation and possible illegal use of campaign funds. All worthy of investigation facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, tshile said: when there's a pattern of behavior i tend to start swinging. Thats a personal lifestyle choice and no one is judging you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So the WH is sticking to its line that Michael Cohen took out a 130k loan against his mortgage to pay a porn star to not tell people a lie about having sex with the president, rather than threatening her with a lawsuit if she did. I really hope her lawyer isn't bluffing on having proof. This really is ****ing ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 What lawsuit could he threaten her with pre-NDA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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