SkinsHokieFan Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: I remember 2000. Got stuck going to dinner party at my parents friends house and they were discussing voting for Bush, as they couldn't vote for Gore. Yes, part of it was they felt Gore was more pro-Israel then Bush. I think by 2004 that changed completely. It did by ‘04. Mom and and dad always voted with their wallets which means Reagan twice Bush Sr Clinton twice and then they voted W. After that it was all Dems My first Dem vote was in ‘16 for Hillary. I probably won’t be voting R ever again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: It did by ‘04. Mom and and dad always voted with their wallets which means Reagan twice Bush Sr Clinton twice and then they voted W. After that it was all Dems My first Dem vote was in ‘16 for Hillary. I probably won’t be voting R ever again. My mom has always voted Democrat. I know my dad for Bush Jr in 2000. I voted Papa Bush(88)- Clinton(96)- Bush Jr(00) and then Libertarian last 4 elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Quote Tens of thousands of foreign nationals living legally in the United States could soon lose government permission to earn a living while they are here. The Trump administration could end a program as soon as February that allows the spouses of legal foreign workers, mainly tech workers from India and China, to obtain their own work visas. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-h1b-visa-spouses-20180201-story.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 But I was told it’s only the undocumented that they care about. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 9 hours ago, SkinsHokieFan said: It did by ‘04. Mom and and dad always voted with their wallets which means Reagan twice Bush Sr Clinton twice and then they voted W. After that it was all Dems My first Dem vote was in ‘16 for Hillary. I probably won’t be voting R ever again. People like to forget that Reagan was pro-immigration. He came.out strongly in favor of allowing the "boat people" from Vietnam to settle here, and a path to citizenship for illegals who had been here for over a decade - not just "dreamers" who had been brought as children by their parents. David Duke was an unknown in 1980, but when he endorsed Reagan, Reagan issued a repudiation of everything Duke stood for. After Tiannamen Square, Republicans were pushing GHB to automatically grant asylum to all Chinese national students in the US, and were disappointed when he chose instead to simply not enforce their departure after their visas expired (the precedent for Obama's dreamer policy) because he didn't want to offend the Chinese government. Pete Wilson and Pat Buchanan have completely ****ed up the GOP on this. And **** you Steve Bannon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Geez, how racist/ignorant is that. Doctorate in stem field, no criminal record, here 30 years..."boot him out I say!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Simply because the Morlocks are free, nay encouraged, to express the innate cruelty that defines their existence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) I guess the good news is that now that we got rid of this guy, an out-of- work Real American molecular biologist will finally get his shot. Edited February 5, 2018 by balki1867 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) I wonder who the senior official could be.... Edited February 5, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, visionary said: I wonder who the senior official could be.... It rhymes with mephen Stiller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 59 minutes ago, Hersh said: It rhymes with mephen Stiller. Huh. I was gonna guess Stupid Moron, but now I'm stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Way I see this the immigration deal must include DACA and the "border wall" plus something. Figure DACA is the line for Democrats and border wall plus something is the line from Trump and company. What is up for negotiation is the DACA type of residency (who are DACA, is there citizenship pathway, time) and the plus something (chain migration - limit it, eliminate it etc. something else?). ie Dems could propose DACA with immediate citizenship for a broad swath of illegals with full border wall funding and very limited limitations on chain Migration Reps could propose DACA with permanent legal residency (no citizenship) narrow swath (Those sighed up) - with full border wall funding and no chain migration at all. That would be a starting point at least. But if your starting point is no DACA or no Border wall plus, then don't bother. Any proposal that doesn't at least start with DACA and Border plus is a waste of time. (McCain's latest is an example - and that is coming from someone who likes McCain.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, nonniey said: Way I see this the immigration deal must include DACA and the "border wall" plus something. Figure DACA is the line for Democrats and border wall plus something is the line from Trump and company. What is up for negotiation is the DACA type of residency (who are DACA, is there citizenship pathway, time) and the plus something (chain migration - limit it, eliminate it etc. something else?). ie Dems could propose DACA with immediate citizenship for a broad swath of illegals with full border wall funding and very limited limitations on chain Migration Reps could propose DACA with permanent legal residency (no citizenship) narrow swath (Those sighed up) - with full border wall funding and no chain migration at all. That would be a starting point at least. But if your starting point is no DACA or no Border wall plus, then don't bother. Any proposal that doesn't at least start with DACA and Border plus is a waste of time. (McCain's latest is an example - and that is coming from someone who likes McCain.) More Americans support DACA than the wall. That should tilt the favor for DACA. And that's why the Dems are trying to force a clean vote on DACA. DACA passes a clean vote in the Senate. The wall does not. The Dems would love to force a clean DACA bill to Trump and force him to veto it. The problem for the Dems is most people don't support DACA at the expense of a government shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 ^ Also, I don't think any sort of DACA bill (clean or not) would pass the Hastert rule in the House. Would it even get to the President's desk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, PeterMP said: More Americans support DACA than the wall. That should tilt the favor for DACA. And that's why the Dems are trying to force a clean vote on DACA. DACA passes a clean vote in the Senate. The wall does not. The Dems would love to force a clean DACA bill to Trump and force him to veto it. The problem for the Dems is most people don't support DACA at the expense of a government shut down. I'm just pointing out the what the non negotiable positions are for both parties (as I see them). A proposal that doesn't include these positions isn't going to pass and any attempt to do so is just wasting time. Edited February 5, 2018 by nonniey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 F Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Edited February 6, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo-toni Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) And don't forget those iilegal immigrants who shot Sean Taylor...oh, wait. Well what about Aaron Hernandez, he was a Mexican immigrant, right? What? Edited February 7, 2018 by Riggo-toni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I'm sure Trump will correct the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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