grhqofb5 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 delete post, requoted myself by accident My message was of the political Parties showing up for work in the morning, clocking in, then spending eight hours trying to kill each other, until the whistle blows, then thay say g'night, go home, and rest up for the next day. See my intended edit, which is underlined and bolded. I wanted to complete the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 grhqofb5 tells the best stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Second video shows Planned Parenthood doc haggling over price of fetal body parts http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/ Ghouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Second video shows Planned Parenthood doc haggling over price of fetal body parts http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/ Ghouls I wonder if they will apologize again for the callousness of the comments. I don't know why they did in the first place if they don't consider the babies to be human, but only "tissue". Insane world we live in... save the trees and kill the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm glad my mom had me at 15 and put me up for adoption rather than abort me...and I'm pro-choice. Go figure. -alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Expect more manipulated videos to drop. There is a large gathering of anti-choicers this weekend in DC - this has been in the works for months. They have a pretty solid media strategy it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Well, gotta say. So far I'm shocked to discover that, if a pregnant woman chooses to say, in writing, that she wants her fetal tissue donated to science, then 1). Planned Parenthood will donate the tissue to scientists. 2). And there's a charge for this, to cover PP's costs. This sure changes my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 once you charge, is it really a 'donation'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm glad my mom had me at 15 and put me up for adoption rather than abort me...and I'm pro-choice. Go figure. -alive But if she didn't, you now know that you'd be worth somewhere in the area of $70.00 to $100.00 if you were intact. Of course, that's in today's dollars. Accounting for inflation, that range in the year 2000 would have been roughly $50.51 to $72.16. As Jeff Spicoli said in Fast Times, "righteous bucks" by any measure. 2). And there's a charge for this, to cover PP's costs. This sure changes my mind. I assume that the "charge" relates to packaging costs and delivery? Perhaps storage as well? I wonder if the charge would go down if you offered to pick up the product in-person, or agreed to do the 9-13 business days delivery, instead of the FedEx next day air. I hope there are options. If you spend more than $500.00, is shipping free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Second video shows Planned Parenthood doc haggling over price of fetal body parts http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/ Ghouls I'm sorry. I refuse read/watch anything from Fox News. Because, you know, that isn't actually news. Because Fox. You know, right? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 once you charge, is it really a 'donation'? I've donated blood over 100 times. Guess what? The person who receives the blood, gets charged for it. (That's how they pay all the costs for collecting, processing, shipping, and storing the blood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 once you charge, is it really a 'donation'? This is arguing over accounting. What the Pro-Life groups are saying is "OMG they charged $30 for fetal parts!!!" What PP is saying is "No the invoice reads, fetal liver donated, medical transportation $30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Did they kill ya to get your blood donation? in a manner so the blood was not harmed of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Granted, I'm no doubt extrapolating a whole lot. But I've read that the laws governing blood is that, in the donor is not paid for the donation, then the blood bank is not allowed to PROFIT from the blood, but they are allowed to charge enough to cover their costs. I learned this from some newspaper articles, written about some of the creative ways some agencies have used, to "not profit" from donated blood. The centerpiece of the article involved a nonprofit blood donation center, owned by John Doe, which collects thousands of pints of donated blood. Then send the blood to a for-profit blood processing company, which is owned by Mrs. John Doe. For profit charges the non profit for processing the blood, and the non profit then sells the blood to hospitals, at their cost. (And that's before you even get into dodges like "well, the salary of the CEO isn't PROFIT. It's a COST.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Did someone mention a Lamborghini? I need to think about going non-profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Expect more manipulated videos to drop. There is a large gathering of anti-choicers this weekend in DC - this has been in the works for months. They have a pretty solid media strategy it seems. I'm pro-life as they come, but I've honestly been thinking about these being released and how we are ramping up into election season for POTUS. Did they kill ya to get your blood donation? in a manner so the blood was not harmed of course. I don't know why, but this made me think of something I heard one time... "You are declared dead when your heart stops beating. Why are you not declared alive when you heart starts beating?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 If PP is in it for the money they are doing it all wrong. $30-100? Your Body Part Price List: You're Worth More Dead Than Alive (Infographic) : Discovery News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 If PP is in it for the money they are doing it all wrong. $30-100? Your Body Part Price List: You're Worth More Dead Than Alive (Infographic) : Discovery News Too bad you cant take any of those from a fetus and put it in a human. Fetuses are used to harvest tissue, which is subsequently used for medical research. But maybe I should sell a kidney for that new kitchen ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 If you spend more than $500.00, is shipping free? Free with amazon prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm glad my mom had me at 15 and put me up for adoption rather than abort me...and I'm pro-choice. Go figure. -alive My sister and I are in your camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 My sister and I are in your camp. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm glad my mom had me at 15 and put me up for adoption rather than abort me...and I'm pro-choice. Go figure. -alive Me too. i'm curious- why do you think that is? inasmuch as personal experience is such a powerful force when it comes to shaping our beliefs, this seems to go against that. it is kind of a creepy feeling knowing that your parents may have considered aborting you (pretty sure i wasnt planned- or there was at least a ton of instability in my family around the time i was conceived, and my dads pro choice). yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I would wager that my liver isn't worth nearly that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 i'm curious- why do you think that is? inasmuch as personal experience is such a powerful force when it comes to shaping our beliefs, this seems to go against that. it is kind of a creepy feeling knowing that your parents may have considered aborting you (pretty sure i wasnt planned- or there was at least a ton of instability in my family around the time i was conceived, and my dads pro choice). yikes. a lot of it is because of the broad definition of pro-choice (which can even include me ) Ya find many that say I would never do it, but....\ or of course the usual extreme exceptions. ya parents probably thought about murdering ya afterwards a time or two as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I don't know why, but this made me think of something I heard one time... "You are declared dead when your heart stops beating. Why are you not declared alive when you heart starts beating?" There is "clinical death" which is the cessation of breathing and blood circulation, but that's not when heroic measures stop especially in cases of trauma. And just the same, just because your blood is circulating doesn't mean you're functionally alive. So, while I do always appreciate the bumper sticker sloganeering they aren't nearly as accurate as they pretend to be, and tend to make the person reciting them look less informed than they may actually be on a certain issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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