elkabong82 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I don't care who did it, but that was a ****ing dumb choice. Most teams completely took that ****head off their draft lists. Did he beat your dog or something? This isn't Fat Al we're talking about, it's a player who didn't last due to injury. Maybe dial it down a notch or 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasSkinsFan Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 So was Portis in Snyders ear that caused this? Hard to not think that might have changed some things if he was drafted in 08 when they started off 6 and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section106 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Is anyone else tired of the slow Shanny/Schefter trickle? I have lost respect for Schefter and feel that he has let his personal relationship with the lobster corrupt his professional reputation. Why report this info except to rub more salt in the wound. It serves no other purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANONYMOUS SOURCE. Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Sounds more like that came from Vinny than Shanny IMO. If we had gotten Charles doesn't mean this team would have done squat with him. Past is gone just hoping for brighter days personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Very old "news" Youtube, internet bubble.... Sad thing is that Dan playing on his computer was likely a better GM than Vinny. Anyone can look at drafts and find a better player taken after another, possibly on every team in every draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That sounds really concocted... But Gibbs had just retired so there was no one here bigger than Snyder or Vinny anymore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 This is really old but Dan didnt pick him. Vinny did. What was the craziest part was the following year was that we had a trade in place for Charles the next year and Vinny overruled Brown. Another Jab from Shanny through Shefty. I bet the next thing we hear is about how Danny wanted to trade up for Orakpo with the broncos. Which is common knowlege Not sure how much it had to do with Portis. There was a lot of nonsense in that draft. 2008 was probably one of the worst drafts talent-wise in the last 15 years. Not to give an excuse to the FO or Dan, but not many people were hitting on studs there. That said, we're 6-7 years removed from that. Interesting nonetheless. Also why we have one of the worst FA classes ever coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What sucks, is that I would have run the draft better than the skins. I was in love with Jordy Nelson and Jamaal Charles that year. They were by far my favorite guys in the draft, and I was praying we were going to take them in the 2nd round of that draft, then we took two other receivers and a TE. That was not a happy draft year. I was one of the people livid we picked a TE (instead of one of the guys I wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mike, dude, you have your $ 7 million. Now for the love of God PLEASE leave us in peace. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 This is really old but Dan didnt pick him. Vinny did. why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Did he beat your dog or something? This isn't Fat Al we're talking about, it's a player who didn't last due to injury. Maybe dial it down a notch or 5. Nope. He was finished before he was drafted. Remember him having a pitiful 40 and blaming it on his school? He never should have made it to the NFL. Again, he was removed from some teams draft boards completely because concern over his knees was so bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew he'd never make it and just declared for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRonDontLikeUgly Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There was a lot of nonsense in that draft. 2008 was probably one of the worst drafts talent-wise in the last 15 years. Not to give an excuse to the FO or Dan, but not many people were hitting on studs there. dude there was a lot of talent in that draft… if we had stayed at 21 we would have had our choice at: chris johnson mike jenkins duane brown dustin keller kenny phillips brandon flowers jordy nelson curtis lofton tracy porter eddie royal matt forte jerome simpson desean jackson ray rice martellus bennett jamaal charles earl bennett early doucet jeremy zuttah harry douglas jermichael finley cliff avril mario manningham thomas decoud josh sitton matthew slater carl nicks im not saying every one of these guys are all-pros, but almost all of them would be upgrades over what we have now. first round guys that have done something in the NFL: jake long, matt ryan, darren mcfadden, glenn dorsey, sedrick ellis, jerod mayo, leodis mckelvin, ryan clady, jonathon stewart, branden albert, dominique rodgers-cromartie, joe flacco, jeff otah, aquib talib, and rashard mendenhall 2008 was a pretty damn solid class if you ask me… it just sucked really bad for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Hell, I didn't even know he had an interview on the subject, and it just confirms what I thought. Can't copy and paste, but it's easy enough to find. He knew he was done in 2009. He declared early because he knew his knees wouldn't hold up. **** him. All he was worried about was his paycheck. Some dumbass in the Skins' front office wasted a second rounder on him. His worthless ass would have been a waste of a seventh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 We did end up with two 6th WR from that draft... but we weren't the ones that drafted them: Garçon and Morgan. We took a punter in the 6th rd ahead of those two and we cut him before mid season of his rookie year. That was such a bad draft. Zorn wanted tall receivers. We passed on Desean Jackson and took Devin Thomas. Passed on Calais Campbell. Colt Brennan was worth a 6th just for the entertainment value he provided on this forum. On the plus side Rob Jackson was a great 7th rd pick and Horton produced for a couple of years. Boozie wasn't a horrid pick but Desean and Calais Campbell were on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm not sure if things would have been different. Admittedly, Kelly's medical problems should have been flagged much earlier than they were, but Shanahan was not known for keeping running backs for long, and if Charles had an injury in 2011 like he did in KC, who knows what would have happened. Even if we was the featured back, we'd probably still have 2-3 other backs waiting on the sidelines. The other thing is that the cost for AlMo was incredibly low. A 6th rounder is basically nothing, and in return we got a franchise back. If AlMo had cost a 2nd rounder or something high, then the argument could be made that we could have used the Kelly pick for Charles and the AlMo pick for something else, but with it only costing a 6th, it's not a huge burden. I think I personally would have preferred Jordy Nelson or DeSean Jackson anyway. We've seen what those two are capable of with good QBs. The bigger issue is Snyder's meddlesome ways, but he seems to have fully stepped back from that by this point, at least for drafting purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryMason Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Snyder also wanted Santana Moss over Rod Gardner, but Schotty overruled him. Yeah exactly. Which really just proves that this kind of thing probably happens a lot around the league because NO ONE KNOWS who will end up great and who won't, its a crapshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Nope. He was finished before he was drafted. Remember him having a pitiful 40 and blaming it on his school? He never should have made it to the NFL. Again, he was removed from some teams draft boards completely because concern over his knees was so bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew he'd never make it and just declared for the money. All this is true, but still doesn't make him a "****head." It's just football, he didn't do anything to you personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 All this is true, but still doesn't make him a "****head." It's just football, he didn't do anything to you personally. Yes it does, and yes he did. He is on the same level as a scam artist as far as I am concerned. My favorite team just had to be the jackasses that fell for it, and my team suffered for it. So, for the 3rd time, **** that ****head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mike, dude, you have your $ 7 million. Now for the love of God PLEASE leave us in peace. Hail. Despite the 6 figures paycheck, I'm concerned Shanahan (maybe with Schefter's help) might someday open up the pandora's box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yes it does, and yes he did. He is on the same level as a scam artist as far as I am concerned. My favorite team just had to be the jackasses that fell for it, and my team suffered for it. So, for the 3rd time, **** that ****head. This is a rational response. For you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Every time the 2008 draft is brought up it just infuriates me. Just looking at the what was available at every one of those 2nd round picks...including guys the board was screaming for like Jordy Nelson or Calais Campbell...and coming away with Sleepy, Comb, and Fantasia's backup dancer. Just FML Calais Campbell is the one who irritates me. I remember lots of talk about him on here and he would look REALLY good as a DE in our 3-4 scheme ..... All ancient history though and I'm not sure why its being brought up now or what relevance it has to whats going to happen going forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I was eyeballing Calais as well. Visions of blocked FGs and batted balls bounced around my head. I saw him more as a 4-3 end. Maybe Shanahan would have told Haslett to convert him OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Calais Campbell is the one who irritates me. I remember lots of talk about him on here and he would look REALLY good as a DE in our 3-4 scheme ..... All ancient history though and I'm not sure why its being brought up now or what relevance it has to whats going to happen going forwards. The excuses for not drafting CC were all over the place here. I wanted to use our 1st on OT Duane Brown IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 The problem is that people view this decision knowing the fate of each players NFL career. Kelly could have turned out better than Charles. It's all a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yup, and you have to wonder about the value of this as a news story today? If this were the week before the draft with the new regime it'd make sense. If Campbell or Brown just left and we were looking at a new draft brain trust, I'd buy it. The story that Snyder and Vinny made bad choices and the Redskins picked some bad players goes into the "No ****, Sherlock" category for me. Most were a little confused at why with three second rounders we picked twor receivers and a tight end. Now, sleepy turned out to be pretty good value for a second pick except he never maximized his potential. The other two busted. Really easy to be critical and deservedly so. I see little point in this story. Maybe we could complain that Tom Brady was on our draft board and we bypassed him SIX TIMES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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