Taylor703 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Alex Mack for the love of god, just sign Alex Mack now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I wouldn't mind seeing us make a play for Jeremy Maclin or Hakeem nicks. Â Â MAYBE Nicks....MAYBE......but part of me prefers neither because of their injury history. ESPECIALLY Maclin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Alex Mack for the love of god, just sign Alex Mack now lol Really? Okay here you go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hopefully, 6 months from now, this won't turn into another "the Redskins love to win the offseason" discussions. Â the difference now though will be that Cerrato is gone. Â Yes, I really believe that will be a HUGE difference. Â No 100 million dollar contracts to people with major questions. Â Even if we miss on a guy, it won't be for an obscene amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't want any free-agents over 27 years old, I would sign WR, RT, ILB, NT and Safety in FA, and sign G,DE,CB and OLB in the draft. Mack,veldeer are 2 of the FA's I would go after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'd like to see Pat Angerer join Keenan Robinson out there for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 RT Jared Veldheer ... OC Alex Mack ... ILB Pat Angerer ... FS TJ Ward  Re-Sign DeAngelo Hall ... Re-sign Perry Riley ... re-sign Reed Doughty ...  Release Chris Chester ... Release Stephen Bowen ...  Draft NT in the 2nd ... shift Cofield to DE with Carriker/Jenkins ... Draft CB ... draft WR ... draft OG  Hopefully trade Cousins for a 2nd ... maybe a 2nd and a 3rd or a 2nd and a 4th ...  Use extra picks to get BPAs and playmakers.  The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 You know, Shanahan used his first #1 on a LT, the second #1 on a OLB, and the third (and fourth and fifth) on a QB. The highest he's picked a receiver is Hank in the 3rd round. And the highest RB was Helu in the 4th. I'm assuming he's coming back. Clearly we don't have a #1. But we'll have a high 2. And they should be able to get a solid DL or LB there. I think I would target RT, NT, FS and ILB in FA. And then fill in best player available in the draft. I'd also like a 3-4 DC if we could draft one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadams5214 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Have seen some talk here of possibly signing Aqib Talib --- might be one of the best CB's on the market but not sure the hefty price tag will be worth it.  Not focusing too much on his struggles last night against the Panthers but seeing some of his outburts reminded me of our own D Hall in previous seasons - the D Hall who lost control of his emotions and committed ill timed and inexcusable penalties.  Also he seems to get banged up alot even during games. Again last night he couldn't play an entire game and was on the sideline while Cam drove the Panthers down for the winning TD.  Talib looks to have the Shawn Springs durability issues when he was with the Skins. Great talent but can't stay on the field and plays only when full healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Have seen some talk here of possibly signing Aqib Talib --- might be one of the best CB's on the market but not sure the hefty price tag will be worth it.  Not focusing too much on his struggles last night against the Panthers but seeing some of his outburts reminded me of our own D Hall in previous seasons - the D Hall who lost control of his emotions and committed ill timed and inexcusable penalties.  Also he seems to get banged up alot even during games. Again last night he couldn't play an entire game and was on the sideline while Cam drove the Panthers down for the winning TD.  Talib looks to have the Shawn Springs durability issues when he was with the Skins. Great talent but can't stay on the field and plays only when full healthy... He has injury issues, character issues and I've read more than once that there is concern about what he'll turn into once given the security of a long-term deal. And yes, he's going to cost a ton.  Talib is a very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Push the pocket on D and hold the pocket on O. Outside of perhaps coaching, I think we can all agree these are our two biggest problems this year. After these two, a second wr and coverage vs rbs/tes are the next two problems. After this comes ST personnel and safeties. Fixing NT doesn't seem too plausible via FA, although its a long shot in the draft as well. Should the FO (knowing there are plenty of other holes to fill) consider trading up to try to get a NT? Part of me says no, of course not - not with the aforementioned holes. But part of me thinks that it may be worth it to get our guy. A FA ILB, safety and o-lineman (or two) would go a long way toward making a trade up easier to swallow. Drafting a couple wrs and a couple more linemen would help as well though that would come after a trade up if they went that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I love the idea of Linval Joeseph but I expect the Giants to make it a priority to resign him in the off season - Still they have said that before and they have Nicks to resign (and he is going to expect Cruz money as a jump off)Â and while they have cap space next year but they have to fill out about half their roster with it - a lot of their upcomming FA are coming off cheap deals and they might be pressed if they get to a bidding war ... Â If that happens I love me some ex NY DL - we have had good fortune with them in the past and I am thinking of recent history like Colefield and Griffin .. I am convinced by the moving Colefield to DE (interestingly on that I heard Carriker returned to practice this week) but to get this defense to work I think we need some better ideas at DC . Â I still say you have to sign Orakpo - As much hate as he gets he is a good team guy and a great OLB contributing in all aspects of the defense - Jackson is good but he is not a starter ... and remember if you want Jackson back and pass on signing Orakpo you are going to be paying Jackson as a starter - Is Jackson worth 7-8 million a year ? Â I really dont see Winston as an upgrade over Polumbus at this point .. there is a reason he is kicking around the league and it is not some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory ....he is just not that good .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyron Biggums Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Offense FA  Center, RG, WR, RT  Defense FA  NT, ILB, FS, DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 He has injury issues, character issues and I've read more than once that there is concern about what he'll turn into once given the security of a long-term deal. And yes, he's going to cost a ton. Â Talib is a very bad idea. Â Not to mention that CB is not even in our top 6-8 areas of concern. The ONLY reason we need to consider Talib or any other CB is if for some reason we can not resign Hall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 You know, Shanahan used his first #1 on a LT .....  He's also only ever used 7 picks the top three rounds out of the 50 he's ever had his career on offensive linemen. (1: 2LT/ 1RT; 2: G; 3: 1LT/ 2G.). And hardly ever splashed big in FA on linemen. about the two biggest are Schlereth from ourselves back in '95 and tackle Tony Jones from the Ravens 2 years later. You then jump right through to the trade gamble on the broken down Jamal Brown for the his next big splash if you can call it that with ourselves. The rest have been cheep nobody's he's tried to fit in.  It wasn't your point, by Shanahan has never really valued the offensive line in comparison to other positions his whole career.   Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Below are the big men for the defensive line. Immediately I see names like Terrance Cody and Linval Joseph and I get excited. I'll be interested to see who makes it out and gets to the market but there is a bit more talent on this list than there is on the FS list. It's not flooded, but we're in decent shape. http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/defensive-tackle/available/  Jason Hatcher – DT – UFA – DAL -31 - $2,600,000 Henry Melton – DT – UFA – CHI – 27 - $8,450,000 Randy Starks – DT – UFA – MIA – 29 - $8,450,000 Jonathan Babineaux – DT –UFA – ATL – 32 - $5,200,000 Terrence Cody – DT – UFA – BAL – 25 - $910,000 Landon Cohen – DT – UFA – CHI – 27 - $518,823 Colin Cole – DT – UFA – CAR – 33 - $555,000 Nate Collins – DT – UFA – CHI – 25 - $630,000 Christian Cox – DT – RFA – NE – 27 - Brandon Deaderick – DT – UFA – JAC – 26 - $630,000 Fred Evans – DT – UFA – MIN – 30 - $1,750,000 Andre Fluellen – DT – UFA – DET – 28 - $428,823 Aubrayo Franklin – DT – UFA – IND – 33 - $1,105,000 Gary Gibson – DT – UFA – TB – 31 - $1,000,000 Jarvis Green – DT – UFA – HOU – 34 - Corvey Irvin – DT – UFA – DAL – 28 - $259,411 Peria Jerry – DT – UFA – ATL – 29 - $2,010,000 Tank Johnson – DT – UFA – CIN – 31 - $2,450,000 Antonio Johnson – DT – UFA – TEN – 28 - $800,000 Linval Joseph – DT – UFA – NYG – 25 - $1,012,000 Jake Laptad – DT – RFA – CHI – 25 - Kyle Love – DT – UFA – KC – 27 - $0 Sen'Derrick Marks – DT – UFA – JAC – 26 - $1,500,000 Terrell McClain – DT – RFA – HOU – 25 - $555,000 Tony McDaniel – DT – UFA – SEA – 28 - $605,000 Clinton McDonald – DT – UFA – SEA – 26 - $592,941 Earl Mitchell – DT – RFA – HOU – 26 - $827,125 Daniel Muir – DT – UFA – OAK – 30 - $391,765 Ogemdi Nwaguo – DT – UFA – DET – 27 – Jeff Owens – DT – RFA – PHI – 27 - Corey Peters – DT – UFA – ATL – 25 - $1,514,750 Ryan Pickett – DT – UFA – GB – 34 - $6,700,000 Jay Ratliff – DT – UFA – CHI – 32 - $261,176 Shaun Rogers – DT – UFA – NYG – 34 - $620,000 Frostee Rucker – DT – UFA – ARI – 30 - $620,000 Paul Soliai – DT – UFA – MIA – 29 - $7,375,000 Alameda Ta'amu – DT – ERFA – ARI – 23 - $480,000 Cam Thomas – DT – UFA – SD – 26 - $1,370,825 Everrette Thompson – DT – ERFA – ARI – 23 - $288,000 Mitch Unrein – DT – RFA – DEN – 26 - $555,000 Vance Walker – DT – UFA – OAK – 26 - $2,000,000 Kevin Williams – DT – UFA – MIN – 33 - $5,000,000 Corey Wootton – DT – UFA – CHI – 26 - $1,449,793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 As I scan down the above list, my mind goes back to the 2012 draft and Alameda Ta'amu.  We passed on him for the 'luxury' pick of Cousins. Now I appreciate Ta'amu's career in the pro's has yet to really start, but man does he have everything (bar a reported questionable work ethic which there's still time to change in a young guy of 23) you could wish for in a prototype zero technique 34 nose.  If the Cards don't sign him up after his year there at the VERY least I bring him into camp.  Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Not that excited about Cody. For cheap, I guess. Joseph is the guy we should want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 As I scan down the above list, my mind goes back to the 2012 draft and Alameda Ta'amu.  We passed on him for the 'luxury' pick of Cousins. Now I appreciate Ta'amu's career in the pro's has yet to really start, but man does he have everything (bar a reported questionable work ethic which there's still time to change in a young guy of 23) you could wish for in a prototype zero technique 34 nose.  If the Cards don't sign him up after his year there at the VERY least I bring him into camp.  Hail.  Yeah, I remember that, too. It blew my mind. (to clarify, it blew my mind at the time). Not that excited about Cody. For cheap, I guess. Joseph is the guy we should want.  Agreed. I don't watch a lot of Ravens games on purpose, but from what I have seen they don't appear to like him as much as I thought they would.  It would have to be for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yeah, I remember that, too. It blew my mind. (to clarify, it blew my mind at the time).....  Oh man I went NUTS in I think it was Justin's 2012 draft prospects thread that draft day when that happened and the big Samoan was still on the board.  Would it still blow your mind to bring him in? Or have we found something we disagree on?  Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Agreed. I don't watch a lot of Ravens games on purpose, but from what I have seen they don't appear to like him as much as I thought they would.  It would have to be for cheap. If we can't get Joesph, I would prefer Raji or Soliai even though they are older than I would prefer. Cody's a decent back-up plan, sign cheap and then plan on getting someone else in the draft and hope than one or the combination fills the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'd first want to know who will be on our coaching staff before even scouting other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Oh man I went NUTS in I think it was Justin's 2012 draft prospects thread that draft day when that happened and the big Samoan was still on the board.  Would it still blow your mind to bring him in? Or have we found something we disagree on?  Hail.  Absolutely not. I wanted him then and now. Why not? When we traded the pick and basically gave the Steelers this kid I was so mad.  He didn't work out up there and I'm not saying he'd light the world on fire but I'd absolutely bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 You know, Shanahan used his first #1 on a LT, the second #1 on a OLB, and the third (and fourth and fifth) on a QB. The highest he's picked a receiver is Hank in the 3rd round. And the highest RB was Helu in the 4th. I'm assuming he's coming back. Clearly we don't have a #1. But we'll have a high 2. And they should be able to get a solid DL or LB there. I think I would target RT, NT, FS and ILB in FA. And then fill in best player available in the draft. I'd also like a 3-4 DC if we could draft one of those. I hope Haslet is not back for and when we do decide to pick D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Please do not resign josh wilson. PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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