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http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/01/bernie-sanders-nation-endorsement-217745

The Nation endorses Bernie Sanders

 

For just the third time its history, liberal magazine The Nation has endorsed a presidential candidate: Bernie Sanders.

 

The endorsement comes on the heels of news the Vermont senator is reporting record fundraising hauls, and of his endorsement by MoveOn, the liberal advocacy organization.

 

"Bernie Sanders and his supporters are bending the arc of history toward justice,” the magazine’s editors wrote, praising Sanders' positions on minimum wage, healthcare, education, Wall Street, and foreign policy. “Theirs is an insurgency, a possibility, and a dream that we proudly endorse.”

 

While the editors endorsed Sanders, the endorsement acknowledged Sanders’ path to the presidency isn’t perfectly clear; he opposes Hillary Clinton in the primary, and, the magazine’s editors noted, he lacks deep support among minority voters. But the endorsement stressed what it characterized as the independence of his campaign.

 

"Voters can trust Sanders because he doesn’t owe his political career to the financial overlords of the status quo. Freed from these chains of special interest, he can take the bold measures that the country needs," the editorial read.

 

And while Clinton would be preferable to any Republican candidate, the magazine editors wrote that there are "limits" to her presidency." Her talk of seeking common ground with Republicans and making deals to ‘get things done’ in Washington will not bring the change that is so desperately needed,” the editors wrote.

 

 

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/poll-donald-trump-widens-his-lead-in-republican-presidential-race-1452808842

Poll: Donald Trump Widens His Lead in Republican Presidential Race

 

Donald Trump has opened a double-digit lead over his next-closest Republican rival, less than three weeks before the first votes of the 2016 presidential race are cast, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

 

https://twitter.com/hookjan

New WSJ/NBC Poll:
Trump 33
Cruz 20
Rubio 13
Carson 12
Christie 5
Jeb 5
Carly 3
Kasich 3
Rand 3
Huck 1 http://on.wsj.com/1J5KPiM via @WSJ

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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/687757465463709696

Staggering statistic in the NBC/WSJ poll

% of GOP voters who can see themselves supporting Trump

March 2015: 23%
January 2016: 65%
5:05 PM

If we end up with Trump as president...I'm going to be very unhappy.  

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/republican-debate-charleston-2016-217732#ixzz3xG9L9Da7

5 things to watch in tonight’s GOP debate

 

Establishment Republicans are bracing themselves for a circular firing squad as the 2016 GOP candidates gather here for Thursday's debate.

 

A cluster of contenders in a fierce competition to command the mainstream GOP lane are almost certain to collide, campaign aides and strategists say. Most of the heat is expected to be directed at Marco Rubio, who, with time running out until the first votes are cast, is anxious to position himself as the establishment front-runner.

 

Donald Trump may come under fire, too — notably from Ted Cruz, who finally appears ready to take off the gloves after the real estate mogul raised questions about his Canadian birth and suggested the Texas senator may be legally unable to occupy the Oval Office.

 

Here’s what Republican insiders are watching in the penultimate debate before the Feb. 1 Iowa caucuses.

1. Ted’s choice

 

Cruz has decided to shelve his Mr. Nice Guy routine with Trump. After a week of Trump suggesting Cruz has an eligibility problem because he was born in Canada to an American mother, the senator has hit back — hard. “Donald comes from New York,” Cruz said Tuesday, “and he embodies New York values."

 

If Trump comes after Cruz in Charleston, many expect Cruz to strike back in no uncertain terms. With several recent polls showing Trump closing the gap with Cruz in Iowa, they point out, the senator may have no choice.

 

“If Ted Cruz wants to finally end the Canada issue, he can in the debate by directly confronting Trump,” said Brett O’Donnell, who was a top debate coach for Mitt Romney in 2012 and advised Lindsey Graham before he dropped out of the GOP race last month. “Cruz and Trump both know that Trump’s ‘questioning’ of Cruz is an attack.”

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Slip slidin' away......

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/14/hillary-clintons-national-lead-is-slipping-faster-in-2016-than-it-did-in-2008/

 

Hillary Clinton’s national lead is slipping faster in 2016 than it did in 2008

In 2008, Hillary Clinton saddled up for the Kentucky Derby on a thoroughbred that was a sure thing. Her campaign was the finest colt in Kentucky, at odds that barely made it worth betting on her. The race began, and she was up by a quarter mile. Then, as another jockey started to gain, she slipped out of her saddle. She was barely hanging on, bumping along against the dirt, bruised and struggling and still hanging in there a half-a-length back. And then she lost and grudgingly wished the victor luck in winning the Triple Crown.

 

So you have to figure that, when 2016 rolled around and everyone was saying, "No, this horse is a sure thing," she was a bit wary. But she got on. She ran strong. She did well. And now, in the final turn, there might be something wrong with the saddle.

 

If we compare where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar. Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news.

 

In Iowa, Clinton is running a bit better than she did in 2008 -- though, again, she's dipped significantly recently. It wasn't until the last week in 2008 that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third.
 
She's doing far worse in New Hampshire than she did in 2008, thanks to New Hampshire being very much the home turf (and home demographics) of her main opponent. In 2008, her lead in New Hampshire evaporated after her Iowa finish, but she then managed to win anyway.
 
A critical point to take away from this -- a point that we've made often before -- is that voting changes polling. If you look at her national numbers after Iowa in 2008, she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses -- but gained some of it back after her win in New Hampshire.
 
In 2016, there's also a big difference between the demographics in Iowa and New Hampshire and other early states, which are much less white. Bernie Sanders struggles with non-white voters, so we can expect to see more dramatic changes after these early states vote.

 

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Debate about to start now.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/14/heres-a-little-secret-donald-trump-is-not-a-good-debater-and-it-doesnt-matter/?postshare=4581452820485450&tid=ss_tw

Here’s a little secret: Donald Trump is not a good debater. And it doesn’t matter.

By Chris Cillizza January 14 at 8:14 PM 

Quick, tell me Donald Trump's best moment in the first five Republican presidential debates.

 

Chances are, you can't. Which is sort of remarkable, right? After all, Trump is the guy in this race who makes news. He says things about policy (we need to temporarily ban Muslims from coming to the U.S.) and about people (Jeb Bush is "low energy) that always make him the story.

Except at debates.

 

Here's how the arc of Debate Donald usually goes. Positioned in the center of the stage -- it's where he's been in almost every debate -- Trump is active, if not overwhelmingly aggressive, in the first 30-45 minutes. When answering question during that time, Trump tends to avoid any policy details and has, on occasion, shown a remarkable lack of knowledge on issues. (He had no clue what the "nuclear triad" was in the fifth debate, for example.)

 

But then, Trump -- and I can't believe I am writing this -- tends to fade into the background. He answers the questions asked of him and hits back when someone attacks him.  Beyond that, however, he tends to look somewhere between disinterested and sleepy.  He does very little to inject himself into the conversation. He is, rather transparently, just waiting for the whole thing to be over.

 

That's not good!, you might think. After all, more than eight in ten Iowa Republicans in the new Bloomberg/Des Moines Register poll said a candidate's debate performance was important to them!

 

Well, not really. At least not as it relates to Trump, whose support seems entirely disconnected from any objective handicapping of his debate performances (or anything else he does). He might be good, he might be bad -- he's much more often the latter in debates -- but the people who are for him don't care. Or Trump is able to convince them -- using his megaphone via social media and cable television -- that he actually won the debate no matter what the "pundits" say.

 

 

 

 

Cruz starts off the debate by bashing Obama over Iran and the sailor incident.

 

 

https://twitter.com/joshrogin

Cruz promises Iran would feel "full force and fury of the USA" if he was president. Very specific, thanks. 
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He has to be trolling. HAS TO BE. There can be no other option at this point. Please god let him be just trolling.

 

 

http://theslot.jezebel.com/this-donald-trump-theme-song-is-the-most-upsetting-thin-1753009207

 

Did the end of the world actually happen in 2012, are we're all damned or something?  Why?

 

Why is this a thing.

 

I really want Trump to just be joking and be like "fooled you!"

 

And then the Feds find their balls and fix Oregon.

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I really want someone to explain to me how the US military has been gutted.

 

It is so difficult to stomach watching this fools ramp up the war rhetoric and say idiotic things like we will send people to Guantanamo to find out everything we can from them.


So are they going to argue with each other at some point and actually mention plans or....

 

 

 

 

Carson seems more awake than usual...but maybe Rubio's yelling woke him up.

Carson is talking crazy stuff though.

 

I missed the first few minutes, but have any of them said stuff that isn't crazy.

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Would be interesting to hear Republicans go after Bernie for a bit instead of Hillary. I mean it gets a little boring after a while.

You don't go after someone who has no chance in hell of winning. It would be like Hillary attacking Fiorina or Huckabee or Jeb. It's just silly.

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