Larry Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Saw this article on Yahoo: Yahoo: The truth behind the numbers: Factchecking the VP debate And I thought that was an interesting concept: Debunking the lies that we all know, in advance, the politicians are going to tell. Seemed worth discussing. But didn't really belong in the Obama or the Romney threads. And I figure that there's going to be a thread for the debate, later, anyway, so I'll start if now. Last week's presidential debate impacted the race more than most voters expected: after his lackluster performance, President Obama's lead has shrunk and Mitt Romney's campaign has been reinvigorated. So, Thursday night's debate between vice president Joe Biden and Republican VP nominee Paul Ryan matters more than many debates between potential veeps past: While Biden has a chance to do damage control and stall the Romney-Ryan surge, Ryan will press for further gains.At Centre College in Danville, KY, at 9 p.m. ET, Biden and Ryan will tangle on issues including health care, the national debt, and taxes. Need help keeping the facts straight as the contenders pontificate from their podiums? Here's a guide to some of what you may hear during the debate, and to what's maybe a little bit wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 should probably keep this as the VP Debate Thread for tonight. I'll be interested to come back after going down to the Nats (hopefully not elimination) game and reading what you folks are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 It's a fine idea, Larry. But Lyin' Ryan will keep telling the same lies anyway. He's shameless really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Lyin' Ryan. Cute. Did you come up with that all by yourself? This will be more of a beatdown than the first presidential debate was. I expect the same dodging of the issues by the incumbent, and the same superior knowledge and delivery by the challenger. Is Libya fair game in this debate? Or is this strictly domestic? I think the embassy attack, the complete and utter fabrication of the reason for it, the fact that the ambassador requested increased security beforehand, and our apology for an Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil would get "Smokin' Joe" (yeah, I came up with that) boiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The Veep debate is one of 2 recent traditions that is incredibly worthless and I wish would be done away with...the other being the new tradition of the mandatory speech by the candidate's wife at the convention. Who cares what a couple people contending for what Adams called the most useless position in govt think or say? People only watch this hoping for a repeat of the infamous "You're no John Kennedy" insult from the first of these pointless spectacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The Veep debate is one of 2 recent traditions that is incredibly worthless and I wish would be done away with...the other being the new tradition of the mandatory speech by the candidate's wife at the convention.Who cares what a couple people contending for what Adams called the most useless position in govt think or say? People only watch this hoping for a repeat of the infamous "You're no John Kennedy" insult from the first of these pointless spectacles. I'd agree except Biden makes it a must watch for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 http://www.debatedrinking.com/ Take a drink* every time your candidate says anything on his list If you are drinking to Joe Biden: Millionaires Voucher Inherited General Motors Middle Class Literally Bin Laden Teachers Syria Obama If you are drinking to Paul Ryan: ObamaCare Reform Small Business Libya Crisis Freedom You Know Generation Government Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Lyin' Ryan. Cute. Did you come up with that all by yourself?This will be more of a beatdown than the first presidential debate was. I expect the same dodging of the issues by the incumbent, and the same superior knowledge and delivery by the challenger. Is Libya fair game in this debate? Or is this strictly domestic? I think the embassy attack, the complete and utter fabrication of the reason for it, the fact that the ambassador requested increased security beforehand, and our apology for an Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil would get "Smokin' Joe" (yeah, I came up with that) boiling. I borrowed the "Lyin' Ryan" phrase! It does fit, though. Did Ryan vote down increased embassy security? If he did, he'd better beware of Biden calling him on it, as all who voted down increased embassy security should be called out. ---------- Post added October-11th-2012 at 12:11 PM ---------- http://www.debatedrinking.com/Take a drink* every time your candidate says anything on his list If you are drinking to Joe Biden: Millionaires Voucher Inherited General Motors Middle Class Literally Bin Laden Teachers Syria Obama If you are drinking to Paul Ryan: ObamaCare Reform Small Business Libya Crisis Freedom You Know Generation Government Reagan Sheesh! We'll all be drunk by the end of the first 15 minutes! :evilg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catatonic Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I expect comedy on the level of the old "Malcomb Kelly" thread we had here. Hopefully crazy uncle Joe will drop an F-bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Does anyone else get really nervous when you watch live events like this? I don't care about either of them, but I get so worried one of them is going to go completely blank or completely **** up their answers. I guess it's the former thespian in me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Mr. Ryan & Mr. Biden, As fellow Catholics, what are your true thoughts on Mormonism? :evilg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 It's a cult, I tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Lyin' Ryan. Cute. Did you come up with that all by yourself?This will be more of a beatdown than the first presidential debate was. I expect the same dodging of the issues by the incumbent, and the same superior knowledge and delivery by the challenger. Is Libya fair game in this debate? Or is this strictly domestic? I think the embassy attack, the complete and utter fabrication of the reason for it, the fact that the ambassador requested increased security beforehand, and our apology for an Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil would get "Smokin' Joe" (yeah, I came up with that) boiling. Apology to Al Qaeda? Oh grow up. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from conservatives like you when you are willing to ignore all the lies coming from Romney these days. Should Libya be discussed? Sure it should. The administration didn't do a good job explaining what happen and deserves to be knocked for it and the investigation into what happen should continue. Ryan should also have to answer for why Republicans cut embassy security funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Fox news at work again. It only took a handful of posts before "apologizing to our enemies" came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENuOBmeQ3WM&feature=youtube_gdata_player This is all I'll be hearing tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Really loving the fact that we can have fact checkers debunking the lies that we know in advance are going to get used, tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 http://www.debatedrinking.com/Take a drink* every time your candidate says anything on his list If you are drinking to Joe Biden: If you are drinking to Paul Ryan: /QUOTE] Looks like the folks running the debate have the Media ready: https://twitter.com/susanferrechio/status/256404841453215744: This is included in the media "swag bag" at the VP debate in Danville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 A look at Paul Ryan, the debater, from a former adversary. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82288.html ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — To those who know best — his past debate foes — Paul Ryan is an agile debater, able to balance explaining the complex federal budget process while still looking like the youthful boy next door.That’s according to a review of the debates and forums he participated in as a Wisconsin House candidate since 1998, and interviews with his Democratic challengers who spoke to POLITICO about his debating skills. So, basically: he's charming, slick and well spoken. Also, he's a serial liar. Nothing earth shattering. We knew this already. It'll be interesting to see the stark contrast in Biden (who the article described as a “fairly liberal member of the Senate" during his tenure there) to the paleo-conservative styling of Paul Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The moderator just addressed the audience. Interesting lady, lol. She said she's used to being in warzones so she's a bit uncomfortable having her back to the audience. The debate starts in less than 10 minutes. Ha ha, just found this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49365912/ns/local_news-cincinnati_oh/t/obama-attended-wedding-vp-debate-moderator/?ocid=ansmsnbc11 Obama attended '91 wedding of VP debate moderator Controversy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Get some Biden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ding ding ding.... ---------- Post added October-11th-2012 at 09:06 PM ---------- Ooh foreign policy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Didn't they use to debate behind podiums Why are they sitting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I thought Biden did ok with the first question. Ryan sounds kind of peevish. Biden is cracking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Paul Ryan with his **** eating grin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Didn't they use to debate behind podiumsWhy are they sitting down Depends on the format. Cheney and Edwards sat at a table as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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