pilsburypgh Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 While I do agree, there's nothing you can really do to yield more success this year by dropping Haslett. I do think it's time to go in another direction, but we have to live with this mess for now. It's not only on Haslett, we have scrubs in our secondary. Meriweather is average at best and he's one of our better guys back there when he isn't hurt. Gomes is backup material and tiny, Hall is tiny and can't cover anyone, Wilson is decent at time but gives up his share of yards/catches as well. ..outside of that, we are playing guys that should never really see the field unless it's on STs. Lol get rid of Haslett. Whats the worst that can happen? We are already horrible....I rather struggle with a new DC then one whos had the wheel for 3 whole years, and is doing what he has always done on every team hes coached....GET WORSE ---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 04:54 PM ---------- I've said all along, the only reason the D looked half way decent in the past is because the other team coasted down the stretch.. Anytime we get in a "competitive" situations (when the opp isn't just killing clock) we're torched and it's been that way every since the 4-3/3-4 switch.. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Lol@ you....dude you wanna sit here and defend a defense like that. then u DONT need to watch football ever again... LOL@you dude, there has been some terrible defenses in the history of the NFL, if this is the worst you have seen you haven't seen much. They are terrible at times, the wrong times. There are some highlights as well. The front 7 looks solid even without Orakpo. The scheme is good elsewhere, the calls are terrible. I am not defending the defense at all. As I said all summer and many others said, the Redskins need a corner and a safety, and Haslett might be an issue. WELL now, shocker, it's true. ---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 04:56 PM ---------- This is the worst D I have ever seen in history....From ANY team. This was you're quote for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburypgh Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dalton was amazing, he has gresham, lawfirm, AJ Green, Sanu, and Hawkins.we are missing Garcon Our Run D isn't that bad Dude everybody is amazing when they play our D....---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 04:58 PM ---------- LOL@you dude, there has been some terrible defenses in the history of the NFL, if this is the worst you have seen you haven't seen much. They are terrible at times, the wrong times. There are some highlights as well. The front 7 looks solid even without Orakpo. The scheme is good elsewhere, the calls are terrible. I am not defending the defense at all. As I said all summer and many others said, the Redskins need a corner and a safety, and Haslett might be an issue. WELL now, shocker, it's true.---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 04:56 PM ---------- This was you're quote for the record. Haslett might be an issue? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoe Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Dude everybody is amazing when they play our D....---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 04:58 PM ---------- Haslett might be an issue? Really? Every team that has played us so far has put up season high scoring numbers. Small sample size of 3 games, but it looks like the Bucs wont have to do much to keep the trend going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburypgh Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Josh Freeman will probably look like a hall of famer. V-Jax will get like 4tds and 300 yards...lolI feel so so sorry for RG3 shannys playcalling is going to destroy him... the the guy gotta score like 40 points just to keep us alive...Im truly sorry for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Every team that has played us so far has put up season high scoring numbers. Small sample size of 3 games, but it looks like the Bucs wont have to do much to keep the trend going. May be right. Lord to put up a average of 30 then give up 30 and lose? a trend that seems to be on going. stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 They were 13th last year in terms of yards per game, and the difference between 9 and 13 was only 7 YPG. They pretty much brought back the same people another year into the scheme, so following the trajectory of the defense from the first year to the second, it wasn't crazy to think they'd be even better from the second to the third year in the defense. Even if you allow for a little bit of regression perhaps, there's really no reason they should have regressed THIS much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Before Jackson got suspended I thought we had a shot at top 10 - not top 5, but top 10. This was on the basis that last year's slow deterioration of the defense was caused by them getting worn down from being on the pitch for too long during games. I'm no longer of the opinion that that was the major factor in us getting worse on defense as time went by. Our weaknesses last year were giving up big plays, and stupid defensive calls when teams have to make 15+ yards for first down. This year we are giving up even bigger plays, and still calling the same stupidity on downs like 2nd and 20. Maybe those zero blitzes on long yardage have worked at some point in the last 16 games, but all I can remember right now is us getting burned whenever we try them in those situations. So the problems we had last year have not been addressed by the coach. It's not purely down to injuries, because even when our players were fit and healthy, they have whiffed on big plays. It's not purely down to lack of talent either, as for the early part of last season we were actually pretty good on defense with many of the same players - except for the problems already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I didn't think our secondary would be this bad. I also didn't see us having this trouble getting pressure losing two starters (only one was really a pass rushing specialist). I knew we needed more talent, but I never thought we were this bad. Top 10, I was cool with believing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 No. If all my posts are reviewed from this season and last season I stated unequivocally that our secondary would be our downfall. Not the whole D. Just the secondary and more specifically our corners in coverage and our safeties. It is unfortunately very apparent now. How many points have we given up in the past three weeks? And on top of that our D needs to work on their lack of tackling skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thought wed be good with Merriweather and Jackson back ast safety. And we were in the preseason. One gets hurt, the other suspended. And here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Be honest, who thought our Defense was going to be top 10? I'll be honest. I did. Last year, they made a significant improvement on D. They were much better than the first year under the 3-4, due to all the 3-4 personnel we signed. This being the 3rd year under the 3-4, the 2nd year for many FAs we signed last year, I thought they would be a much tighter unit. I thought that there would be no communication problems due to terminology. I thought everyone would be much more comfortable with their assignments. I thought the D would carry this team and help our rookie QB. This D looks completely lost. They look horrible. I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 It's the 3-4, Washington has always been a great 4-3 city. If we had a 4-3, we would likely still have Andre Carter, Orakpo would be at DE, and who knows, maybe Haynesworth would still be playing, we are paying him this year regardless. We had no sucess switching to the 3-4, the 4-3 is a system we were dominate in, we switched systems because it was the "hot" system at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Be honest. Who didn't expect a top 10 defense, but didn't expect them to be on a record pace of suck? *raises hand* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Me. Just by our front seven alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Be honest. Who didn't expect a top 10 defense, but didn't expect them to be on a record pace of suck? *raises hand* Here's the answer right here ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I wasn't thinking top-10, but I was thinking a lot better than I've seen. In seasons' past, it's been that the offense couldn't score enough to put the game out of reach. Now it's that our D can't hold the other team to less than 30. We just can't win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thought wed be good with Merriweather and Jackson back ast safety. And we were in the preseason. One gets hurt, the other suspended. And here we are. Yes. This absolutely killed us. You're totally right. Dejon Gomes is such a disappointment, especially after how well he played against the Saints. I swear I think he's playing hurt. He looks soooo slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Hunter #21 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I really didn't expect the secondary to be the strong point of the defense this season but WOW I didn't expect things to be this bad. It has gotten to the point where it would be a good decision to just change the channel while the defense is on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Most thought we would be in the top half of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main-Maine Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought our secondary would be a problem, but not to the point where teams could score in almost every possession. I'm very disappointed in our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectgibbs Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I knew we'd take a step back this year closer to 2010, but didn't think we'd be bottom 5 like we're destined to be. I hated picking Haslett as our DC two years ago. He's been a loser for years. The last good defense he had was in the 90s with the Steelers. Big mistake by Shannahan to hire him in the first place. Pair this offense with a Blache top-5 defense and you've got a playoff contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Injuries can ruin any season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought we could be top 10 if we stayed healthy. I was wrong (even had we stayed healthy). However I disagree that Fletcher has lost a step. He's sticking with TE's and RB's just like he always has. He's very nearly come up with a few interceptions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There is nothing wrong with fletcher, or any of our front seven starters (extend that to Rob Jackson and Jenkins). The issue is we have the worst secondary in the league, where Josh Wilson, an average cover corner, is looked at as a shutdown corner compared to terrible players Deangelo Hall and Dejon Gomes. Our only hope of not being in consistent shoot-outs every game is benching Hall, Crawford somehow proving to be worth something, and Meriweather saving the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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