IWantMyATV Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought we could be top 10 if we stayed healthy. I was wrong (even had we stayed healthy).However I disagree that Fletcher has lost a step. He's sticking with TE's and RB's just like he always has. He's very nearly come up with a few interceptions as well. This. Plus there's no quit in Fletcher. Fans on here complaining are cowardly this team is a unit and won't quit - I wouldn't say that about a lot of teams in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I didn't expect top 10, but I damn sure didn't expect to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 We should all know that DHall is always susceptible to the big play. Its feast or famine with him. You can get a 4 INT game like you had against Cutler in 2010, and then you have what you saw today. My opinion is he may have lost a step but is still one of the best corners in the league. He was essentially 1 on 1 on Green all game. Not even Revis or Champ Bailey in his hey day would have stood a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought the defense would be a strength. Ohh how wrong I was. As did I, though I had a feeling our secondary would be suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Everybody got their wish though. Now our former bend but dont break defense actually gets turnovers and would've scored 14 on their own if not for the refs. Too bad Haslett is coaching it instead of an actual qualified Defensive Coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGriffin Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought we would be pretty good if we could could generate pressure on a consistent bases. Even without constant pressure i did not think it would be so easy for teams to move the ball through the air. It's like a 7 on 7 drill and it just drives me up a wall watching it. I don't know what's worse watching our offense struggle to score previously or watching our defense get ran through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I didn't expect them to be top ten, just the D Coordinator realize where his weak spots are located. If we are that bad in the secondary, and we are, find a way to make the ball come out quick. This might protect them, then again the one time we did blitz we gave up a TD. Thanks Josh Wilson. I dunno. But we are giving up a ton of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 With competent coaching and health this defense would be top 10 and really a shutdown corner away from being top 5. We have a top 10 front 7 with real depth, and that's WITH 2 starters missing, a competent backup missing, and another guy coming off an ACL injury. Jackson and Wilson played pretty good yesterday and we got consistent pressure. Our secondary is thin but there are far worse secondary groups in the NFL. Fact is, we're badly coached right now and the playcalls are terrible, and after 2 years of film, Haslett's vanilla defense and lack of creativity has been exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 While I do agree, there's nothing you can really do to yield more success this year by dropping Haslett. I do think it's time to go in another direction, but we have to live with this mess for now. It's not only on Haslett, we have scrubs in our secondary. Meriweather is average at best and he's one of our better guys back there when he isn't hurt. Gomes is backup material and tiny, Hall is tiny and can't cover anyone, Wilson is decent at time but gives up his share of yards/catches as well. ..outside of that, we are playing guys that should never really see the field unless it's on STs. Well, I am looking at the point of getting a head start, if there was anyone to go after, which I doubt. But may as well leave it to Morris, and begin the search; if Morris turns things around, great, we could give him a shot, but Haslett is done, and I doubt he would be able to motivate the players. A good DC can coach average or below average players and put them in the best situations possible; agreed, there are some players who aren't good enough to do this to, but still, a good DC can do this; Haslett's claim to fame was inheriting a good defense in Pitt,dragging it down, and not doing anything in N.O. or St.Louis, which is why they got rid of him to begin with. Keeping him would possibly put the team that much behind on getting possibly better coaching monday... SIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Year after year after year after year ... the Skins find creative ways to DISAPPOINT! It's really amazing on one hand that we brag about being very talented. And, with a couple of injuries ... Poof, we become a very marginal team. All teams face injuries, and some to their star players. But, here's what seperates the PROs/Winners from AMATEURS/Losers -- the desire to win! For instance, take Green Bay, last year they were dessimated with injuries but were still very successful. Take the NY Giants this year. They had a ton of injuries and ripped the Panthers, and that too in their own backyard! It's just sickening to see how talentless the Skins really are. RGIII is ok, and has a lot of developing to do to be considered elite. Fred Davis's comment, and I quote: "We haven't show our full offense." Really?! If you don't show it now, especially when you need to win desperately in your HOUSE when were you and coaches planning to show it? Next pre-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amm0409 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I hoped, but knew our most glaring weakness is the secondary... Jordan Black got owned a couple times as well. O-Line didn't play that well either. they played ok at first with Trent in there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 My opinion is he may have lost a step but is still one of the best corners in the league. And you believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stat2883 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 heh...I said back when we first hired Has that I wasn't overly thrilled with him. Still hoping I'm wrong, but not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I honestly didn't think we would **** the bed this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Jordan Black got owned a couple times as well. O-Line didn't play that well either. they played ok at first with Trent in there though. yea, I thought secondary and o-line would be the weaknesses this season... just thought it wouldn't be evident so early in the season... I guess the key to beating us is passing on offense and blitizing on defense (from the opponents perspective) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Our defense has been worse than I expected. I fully admit I expected the pass rush to make up for a weak secondary, not a SWISS CHEESE secondary which is what we have. I expected the defense to be good enough that if Robert had the kind of numbers he has through the first three games we would be 3-0. ---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 08:09 PM ---------- at this point, a marginally successful defense and we'd be 3-0. A defense that allows 21 points a game, we'd be 3-0. Again, marginally successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG3andHogs Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Ok, yeah I admit I thought we'd be top 10 as I had every reason to believe so. Hell, I at least thought we'd be in the top half. Also, anyone who says they expected the defense to be this bad is full of ****. ---------- Post added September-23rd-2012 at 08:13 PM ---------- This. Plus there's no quit in Fletcher. Fans on here complaining are cowardly this team is a unit and won't quit - I wouldn't say that about a lot of teams in the past. Agreed. This team had every reason to fold it up and call it a day while down 24-7 and I believe many teams of the past would've done that and let the game go til it was 52-7. Our guys came out and fought hard in the second half to tie it. Despite coming short, the showed heart and determination. That's what's kinda frustrating though. You can see the will to win and the improvement but it's just not enough to get the W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I wasn't expecting a top 10 but close. I really thought the front 7 would cover the weaknesses of the secondary, but then Rak and Carriker went down and all of a sudden a strength became a mediocrity. But the secondary play is shocking. Thing is, with an average D, or even a slightly below average D, this team is 3-0. Painful to finally get a special QB and have his play ruined by a defense that is on pace to be historically awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarg Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 As the creator of this THREAD I was actually really impressed with our RUN defense today... if that makes anyone happy...? :jump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In 93 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Being honest, I thought we'd have a top 5 run defense and an elite pass rush. I never believed in our secondary but other 3-4 teams have bad secondaries and good defenses. fire jim and hire romeo crennel after he gets fired this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was not expecting top ten, but also not just plain horrible. You said it! Surprised that some of these guys are playing at the PRO level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 And you believe that? I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Graziano at ESPN did a good job of managing Redskins fan expectations about the secondary in the offseason, which kept me grounded. I was expecting improvement and was even more hopeful after the Saints game, but I've quickly returned to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I sort of had a feeling we would suck. Knew the secondary was trash, advocated drafting a corner or safety with one of our higher picks but the front office didn't listen to me. A lot it is due to lack of talent, and the rest is due to us getting out schemed/coached. It's a mess. Secondary and offensive line is what we need to focus on the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFan Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'll admit it I thought we had a top 10 D for sure especially seeing the pass rush in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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