darrelgreenie Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 This is hilarious: I haven't seen the game but...... I haven't seen the game. All I have is the Espn play by play but he was still 90% dink and dunk. He did throw a couple long ball completions though. So maybe he is improving, or maybe the Bills have 0 pass rush and he got lucky on a couple of his sideline balls that he throws. I dunno, but his stats definitely look better.BTW-His top 3 reveicers were all out for the game: Jacoby Ford, DHB and Murphy were all out.Also that 2nd to last series would have been a 4th qtr comeback if the defense didn't let the Bills March down the field for the go ahead with 18s left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Which is great! But, JC didn't have half the talent around him during his tenure here. I'm not entering in the JC vs RG debate, but JC had Moss, Cooley, and Portis. That was at least "half" the talent Rex has now. At least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I'm not entering in the JC vs RG debate, but JC had Moss, Cooley, and Portis. That was at least "half" the talent Rex has now. At least. And, no offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Which is great!But, JC didn't have half the talent around him during his tenure here. That's just 100% false. And, no offensive line. Again, 100% false. He didn't have a line at the end of his tenure here, but when he first took over as the starter? Yes he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconTheVillain Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I am rooting for JC to do well. Whether he will..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 JC had a very good game today and was missing 3 starting WR's. He wasn't good here and everything but I don't get why so many Skins fans just despise the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 That's just 100% false.Again, 100% false. He didn't have a line at the end of his tenure here, but when he first took over as the starter? Yes he did. No, you're wrong. Plain. And. Simple. Haters gotta' hate...:rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I'll root for JC to play well wherever he goes, as long as it's not against the 'Skins. He'll really have to play well in order to stay in Oakland past this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 TR1...as far as agenda boyz go, you must really hate Shanny as the ultimate agenda boy for running your sweetheart out of town. Guess Shanny didn't want to spend his whole gameday telling Jason what to say to his teammates in the huddle........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 JC played well. But ultimately, as is usually the case when JC is your team's QB, his team lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 TR1...as far as agenda boyz go, you must really hate Shanny as the ultimate agenda boy for running your sweetheart out of town.Guess Shanny didn't want to spend his whole gameday telling Jason what to say to his teammates in the huddle........ Diesel, had you been following along, you might have noticed I've never been 'sweet' on JC. He's an ordinary NFL qb...but to read those who follow him, you might be convinced he's not worthy of starting. So, before you go after what you think I'm saying, it might be good if you KNOW what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 JC played well. But ultimately, as is usually the case when JC is your team's QB, his team lost.That's another bad memory brought up. Remember when he had good games statistically with the Skins, and we still lost? Candle plays well at times, (he's not horrible just mediocre), but he's like the anti-Rothlisberger to a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 JC played well. But ultimately, as is usually the case when JC is your team's QB, his team lost. I'm finding it difficult to understand how anyone would chalk this loss for the Raiders up to the "same ol' JC" argument. 35 points? Leading a go-ahead TD late in the game?...5 plays, one minute drive?...On a 50 yard TD, no less?...50 yards in the air...On the road? 108.5 QB rating?... We would have KILLED for a Jason Campbell like that. Helluva play by both Campbell and his WR: http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d82257ff8/WK2-Can-t-Miss-Play-Moore-s-big-score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanny&Danny Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 I'm finding it difficult to understand how anyone would chalk this loss for the Raiders up to the "same ol' JC" argument.35 points? Leading a go-ahead TD late in the game?...5 plays, one minute drive?...On a 50 yard TD, no less?...50 yards in the air...On the road? 108.5 QB rating?... We would have KILLED for a Jason Campbell like that. Helluva play by both Campbell and his WR: http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d82257ff8/WK2-Can-t-Miss-Play-Moore-s-big-score You do realize that it was a terrible read right? He threw it right into double coverage, that ball should be picked off 9 out of 10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 You do realize that it was a terrible read right? He threw it right into double coverage, that ball should be picked off 9 out of 10 times. Looked like his receiver had both defenders beat on the play to me . . . yeah, he was behind the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I wonder if anyone see that the defense lost the game today for the Raiders. The Bills scored on all 5 possessions in the 2nd half. Let me repeat that again, the Bills scored on ALL 5 possessions in the second half. JC led em back to take the lead, but the defense gave it up. I'm not seeing how Jason lost this game for the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 campbell played well today. he has these performances from time to time, where he puts up 300 and a few TDs, then reverts back to his usual 170 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT games while handing the ball to mcfadden all day. the raiders are going nowhere with campbell as their QB, and their entire fanbase knows it. Al Davis is the only one who doesnt, or maybe campbell is just a place holder until Pryor is ready? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuji869 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I do like Jason Campbell and wish it would have worked out with him for the Redskins but I do agree he does get way to much slack from the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Which is great!But, JC didn't have half the talent around him during his tenure here. I don't disagree with you that JC is a pretty ordinary QB. But I do disagree that JC didn't have talent while he was here. He had possibly the best O-line in the league in the first half of 2008. You could probably make an argument that our O-line was top-10 in the league from 2006 up until Samuels got injured in 08. Portis was in his prime. Betts was in his prime. Moss was coming off a 1500 yard season. Cooley was an emerging star. JC had a pro bowler or recent pro bowler at RB, FB, TE, WR, and LT. The talent was there, he was just hesitant with the ball. EDIT: And I think the overall point I want to make is that JC was pretty unextraordinary, while Rex is showing quickly that he could be extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 You do realize that it was a terrible read right? He threw it right into double coverage, that ball should be picked off 9 out of 10 times. As JMU rightly pointed out, the WR got behind both men. The ONLY negative on that play would be that JC could have thrown it a yard farther so that the receiver wouldn't need to go up for the ball. But it wasn't a "terrible" read, nor a lucky play. It was a good read, and should have won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 As JMU rightly pointed out, the WR got behind both men. The ONLY negative on that play would be that JC could have thrown it a yard farther so that the receiver wouldn't need to go up for the ball. But it wasn't a "terrible" read, nor a lucky play. It was a good read, and should have won the game. It wasn't a terrible read but it was basically a under thrown jump ball hail mary at the goal line. When I originally posted his game stats I thought he had actually made a good deep TD pass. After watching it I'd say that he just got lucky. Another game of JC's dink and dunk with 1 lucky td late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 He had possibly the best O-line in the league in the first half of 2008. You could probably make an argument that our O-line was top-10 in the league from 2006 up until Samuels got injured in 08.EDIT: And I think the overall point I want to make is that JC was pretty unextraordinary, while Rex is showing quickly that he could be extraordinary. No he didn't. Our Oline was MUCH better at run blocking than pass blocking. He was under all kinds of pressure @ Dallas, and was also under a fair amount vs STL. Furthermore Portis didn't take off until the 2nd half of the Dallas game, after Campbell had big games vs NO, ARI, and a big 1st half @ DAL (despite the heavy pressure mentioned above). Our 2007 Oline was average aside from those 3 or so games where 3 starters were out. Though the Oline was great in 2005-6.For the record I've been supportive of Grossman since the 2010 preseason, and although I think Rex has more to work with than JC did, I doubt JC would've thrown for 290+ yards in 4 of our last 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 It wasn't a terrible read but it was basically a under thrown jump ball hail mary at the goal line.When I originally posted his game stats I thought he had actually made a good deep TD pass. After watching it I'd say that he just got lucky. Another game of JC's dink and dunk with 1 lucky td late in the game. Only Jason Campbell could cause an entire fan base to dissect a 300+ yard, 2 TD game to try and figure out why it sucked ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Only Jason Campbell could cause an entire fan base to dissect a 300+ yard, 2 TD game to try and figure out why it sucked ... The dislike for JC is irrational. When folks went 'all in' on how bad a qb he is/was, they try to save face with weak arguments when JC has a good day. It's an interesting study in human psychology. :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Who cares about what JC did... focus on what Rex is doing for the 'Skins and that's making plays when the game calls for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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