Taylor703 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Connor's opponents were way better. Aldo might be the most skilled fighter in mma and regardless of his game plan, Connor koed him in 13 seconds. Ronda beat 1 trick ponys and women who trained mma for like 2 years. Conor KO'd Aldo because Jose went completely out of character and opened himself up for a stupid shot. I doubt that happens if they fight again. Conor could still beat him, just not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I stormed in and put it all on the line. I took a shot and missed. I will never apologize for taking a shot.**** happens. I'll take this loss like a man. I will not shy away from it. I will not change who I am. If another champion goes up 2 weights let me know. If your tired of me talking money, take a nap. I'll still be here when you wake up with the highest PPV and the gate. Still talking multi 7's. Thank you to the true support and **** the hate that came out of the woodwork. I love it all. Its still steak for breakfast. I've been here many times in my life in some form or another. I'll eat it all and come back stronger. Aldo you are a ****. Dos anjos you are a ****. When the history books are written, I showed up. You showed up on Twitter.To the fans! Never ever shy away from challenges. Never run from adversity. Face yourself head on. Nate I will see you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 By Floyd, absolutely. So would just about every other human-being on the planet. Not just Floyd. He'd get schooled by just about any boxer with real skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) I made no bones about it that I was rooting for Nate in this fight, not because of any dislike for McGregor, moreso that I respect the old-school style of the Diaz brothers. Whether you like them or not they leave it all in the ring every single fight win or lose. I was glad that Nick (vs Silva) and Nate finally got a real pay day for all the training and work they have put into this sport over the years that has too often been overlooked by the casual fanbase of UFC. With this performance Nate is looking at least at another big pay day for his next fight which should come against another big name whether it is at 155 or 170. I still like Conor, he is young enough that he has time to go out and get better trainers and round out his game better, but he also should be a little bit concerned that his last two fights have exposed his lacking skills on the ground so he can talk about "scared wrestlers" all he wants, but didn't he turn into the same thing against Nate once he faced adversity? He shot for a takedown which was a pretty silly thing to do. Nate was more than happy to pull guard in that situation. I don't see his fight with RDA going much different although, to his benefit the punching power should be restored at the lower weight division. Edited March 6, 2016 by NoCalMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Not sure if it was mentioned already in here but Dana said Rousey vs. Tate 3 is next. Meisha finally winning the title is a great story and accomplishment for her, but she mine as well start mentally preparing to be without it in about 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) The difference between Conor and Ronda, pretty clear to see. You can hate the guy all you like but it can't be denied he's taking this loss in a really respectable manner. If he can get a bit of a win streak going again I can see this loss actually doing his popularity a lot of good. Next fight is crucial though. He's been very classy in defeat and defeat makes him seem more human rather than just being some kind of overblown cartoon character. Follow Dann StuppVerified account@DannStupp Surrender Nightclub sent us these after-party photos. Call me crazy, but I think McGregor will survive this setback. Edited March 6, 2016 by Morrison J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Girl to the left of him seems very upset her bridesmaids don't give a **** about her bachelorette party anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 And the moron still doesn't get it. I've tried so hard to like Conor and I just can't. He had excuses ready and the two weight classes deal is a sham. Nate Diaz is an 155er who's never had any business fighting at 170. The reality is he's been protected by Dana but you can only hide so long. The seven-figure thing is going to go out the window when Frankie wrecks him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yeah, but they all had early losses too. It's very hard to go 20 fights without a loss in that type of fighting. In MMA, you're far more likely to face comparable talent earlier. Boxing records are largely built on bull**** until they hit 20 wins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I think Conor has needed to grow as a professional fighter and this loss could prompt him to do that. He's got the striking skill, athleticism, power, accuracy, and speed. Those tools have gotten him far. The problem is that he's a champion and he wants to exist in two weight classes. He needs to stop taking extremely short notice fights and avoid getting goaded into surrendering his advantages. Basically stop trying to be capt. bad-ass and embrace the professional side of the sport, which means being smarter. Brash arrogance may sell tickets but that money goes away if the losses pile up. In addition to that his skill set obviously needs to grow. The story on him is out, he doesn't have a ground game, and every fighter he faces is going to be coached to exploit it. The only way he survives is by turning his weaknesses into strengths and game planning to avoid spending too much time in his opponents wheelhouse. Maybe call up GSP and ask him and his team to take him to wrestling school? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 The story on him is out, he doesn't have a ground game, and every fighter he faces is going to be coached to exploit it. He may have been exposed for a weak chin, as well. All it took was one punch from Nate to wobble him, to the point of him making a desperation move. And Nate's not known for packing a lot of power in his individual punches, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 He may have been exposed for a weak chin, as well. All it took was one punch from Nate to wobble him, to the point of him making a desperation move. And Nate's not known for packing a lot of power in his individual punches, either. It's a very fast fall in MMA. If you have a weakness they will find it and you'll never be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 MMA is still in such infancy as far as the scope it is trying to reach. I like the fact that Conor is seeking out challenges all over the place. I've personally never been one to care so much about an MMA fighter's record as much as I do who their level of competition has been. I'd rather a fighter seek out challenges and maybe end up with a handful of extra losses because of it, then someone who gets overly-comfy reigning over a division of guys that clearly aren't on his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I've never been a fan of the Diaz brothers, but I'll give guys like Nate Diaz, Donald Cerrone, etc. all the credit in the world for always being available and willing to fight on short notice. Guys like that should always have a job if the UFC does right by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Its amazing how many fighters get sucked into playing the Diaz brothers' game. I mean there is a pretty clear blueprint on how to beat them, think Benson over Nate, RDA over Nate, Rory over Nate, GSP over Nick. Yet they have many victories over people perceived to be better strikers simply because fighters choose to fight where the Diaz brothers excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I think Conor has needed to grow as a professional fighter and this loss could prompt him to do that. He's got the striking skill, athleticism, power, accuracy, and speed. Those tools have gotten him far. The problem is that he's a champion and he wants to exist in two weight classes. He needs to stop taking extremely short notice fights and avoid getting goaded into surrendering his advantages. Basically stop trying to be capt. bad-ass and embrace the professional side of the sport, which means being smarter. Brash arrogance may sell tickets but that money goes away if the losses pile up. In addition to that his skill set obviously needs to grow. The story on him is out, he doesn't have a ground game, and every fighter he faces is going to be coached to exploit it. The only way he survives is by turning his weaknesses into strengths and game planning to avoid spending too much time in his opponents wheelhouse. Maybe call up GSP and ask him and his team to take him to wrestling school? Re: your first paragraph, Conor is a smart guy, he understands that everyone's time at the top in MMA is very limited (except Randy Couture). Right now he has the opportunity to make HUGE paydays, every few months. Tough to say no to that, especially when your last fight was an epic payday and you didn't even get hit once. But I agree that going up basically 2 weight classes was dumb and he did it as an ego trip. Weight classes are there for a reason, fighting someone significantly bigger is a huge disadvantage. People say Diaz doesn't have big power, well, he doesn't have big power for a welterweight. He's probably near the top of the scale versus featherweights, which is what McGregor is. Re: rounding out his game, I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 It's true lol. I think Holly should get the re-match but whatever. They have to do whatever they can to get Ronda the belt back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Shamrock & Kimbo both failed pre fight drug tests for Bellator 149. Dada 5000 remains undefeated with a record of 2-0 with 1 No Contest (the Kimbo fight). You can't make this stuff up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Shamrock & Kimbo both failed pre fight drug tests for Bellator 149. Let me take a guess. The substances they tested positive for, were sedatives. For their sake I hope it wasn't PED's, because that makes their performance even more sadder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Anderson Silva vs. Urijah Hall in the works for 198. Cain Velasquez vs. Travis Browne scheduled for 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Anderson really determined to go the way of Roy Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Kind of stating the obvious here, but... I could see Silva very possibly winning this one, depending on which Uriah Hall shows up. Hall is known for "mental lapses", while "mental games" is of course one of Silva's primary strengths. So if Hall comes into it with the frame of mind he's had in multiple past fights, he will just fall right into the trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I think a healthy Silva crushes whatever Urijah shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I could see a combined 10 strikes being thrown in that fight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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