Game Day Thread - The Commanders @ The Rams - The One Where One Gets Rammed

[ExoDus84]

Didn't watch the game...what was with Howell today? Not seeing the field?inaccurate? Terrible protection?

 

He's had a challenging last month,  but I still how he can string togetger a few good games to end the season. I still like him. 

[Conn]

Burning so much clock in the redzone on that drive that you have to throw the game away attempting an onside kick (instead of just hoping for a stop and a punt) is so funny. 

[Skinsinparadise]

 

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

That’s what good backups/low end starters do. Come in and provide a quick spark. Maybe win a game or two. That’s what Brisset is and I think that is what Sam will end up being/doing in a few years.

[DWinzit]

Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

Agree let Sam finish. Brissett isn’t the future clearly. 

 

 

But starting Brisket is a total Ron move

[MartinC]

1 minute ago, KDawg said:

I’m not sure where people are getting the idea that I think Brissett is much better. I don’t. It’s just that Howell LOOKS cooked. Has zero to do with Brissett. 

He’s rushing, mechanics and footwork are out of synch. He just doesn’t trust the protection (and hard to blame him). No timing or rhythm.

 

He can come back from this next season with good coaching and a better O’line. But I don’t think I he’s going to get the chance - a new GM and HC almost have to go get a QB now and have Sam penciled in as the backup.

[BatteredFanSyndrome]

1 minute ago, KDawg said:

I’m not sure where people are getting the idea that I think Brissett is much better. I don’t. It’s just that Howell LOOKS cooked. Has zero to do with Brissett. 

I’m not talking about you.  I’m taking about the folks acting like that little spurt of play by Brissett is indicative of anything. 

 

I had Sam being doneski a month ago, but at the same time it’s not like I’ve been seeing him leaving a bunch on the field.

[profusion]

I was momentarily worried about Brissett coming in and winning a game or two, and then that awful goal line set of plays happened. 

 

My guess is that Sam starts next week.

[Redskins 2021]

7 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

We’re going to beat the Jets and the Cowboys are going to have nothing to play for and Ron likes moral victories.  We’re winning that one.  
 

We’re going to blow our best chance to get top tier talent because Ron’s a dumbass.

 Very possible 

[Idaho fan]

7 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

We’re going to beat the Jets and the Cowboys are going to have nothing to play for and Ron likes moral victories.  We’re winning that one.  
 

We’re going to blow our best chance to get top tier talent because Ron’s a dumbass.

Dumbass yes.  But he’s a worse coach.  We won’t win another game under him. 

[MartinC]

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

This is the right decision even if Brissett might give us the best chance to win a game. 

[mac8887]

Just now, KDawg said:

See, he’s the one I don’t want. 

I want him but he is the last out of the 3. He is short just like Sam and will have trouble escaping by stepping up in the pocket, though he seems to be pretty good at it at the college level. The big difference here is I believe caleb has much longer arms and that could help him in getting the ball out with the pocket crashing on him

[dyst]

9 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Gotta love the trolls taking a victory lap yet they’ve never once provided valuable insight or evidence to support their generic takes on QB ever.

Why does evidence need to be provided for you. Just look at the game and you should be able to see the product on the field same as the “trolls” see it.

 

Sam while talented was clearly “part” of the problem. He struggles to check down, does not create the pocket, he does not see the hot read and has some very questionable INTs and sacks that fall fully on him.

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

Just now, MartinC said:

This is the right decision even if Brissett might give us the best chance to win a game. 

Especially if Brissett might give us the best chance to win a game.

[Redskins 2021]

5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

He is the only one I would be willing to trade up for. He has the chance to he a true game changing super star imo.

 That the part I don't like the trade up. If he your guy fine but if he misses that put the team back like 5 to 7 years.

[srtman04]

I just hope Sam isn't cooked at this point.   We'll find out for sure next week if he doesn't use this as motivation.  

[Redwards]

4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Good.  Sam gives us the better chance to lose out. 

[Skinsinparadise]

Ron you’ve been saying this all season, so just give him a couple more games to evaluate. 
 

 

 

[Idaho fan]

Ron should’ve traded Brisset to Cleveland (or Jets or Minny etc) before the deadline.  Jacoby could’ve helped a contending team. 

[dunfer]

3 minutes ago, dyst said:

Why does evidence need to be provided for you. Just look at the game and you should be able to see the product on the field same as the “trolls” see it.

 

Sam while talented was clearly “part” of the problem. He struggles to check down, does not create the pocket, he does not see the hot read and has some very questionable INTs and sacks that fall fully on him.

Like rookie qbs do.

do you invest in another one or let this one learn?

Edited December 18, 2023 by dunfer

[mistertim]

1 minute ago, dyst said:

Why does evidence need to be provided for you. Just look at the game and you should be able to see the product on the field same as the “trolls” see it.

 

Sam while talented was clearly “part” of the problem. He struggles to check down, does not create the pocket, he does not see the hot read and has some very questionable INTs and sacks that fall fully on him.

 

A lot of those are things that pretty much every young QB goes through and has to improve on. Add in the horrid OL and questionable play calling and it's not surprising that he seems shell shocked now.

[Redskins 2021]

9 minutes ago, dyst said:

The amount of collateral would be too much and I doubt any team trades out of that pick. If we natural get it, then so be it.

 Yeah I don't want to trade up and I don't want to reach for a Qb with all the problems on this team.

[GoDeep81]

Sam looked bad today. Everybody on the team looks cooked. If he learned anything it should be to target your #1, imo. 

[dyst]

7 minutes ago, ntotoro said:

I hate to say this, but it does feel like Sam has been Patrick Ramsey'ed

Now I have to come in here and defend him grr. He’s way better than Ramsey but yes your point is taken.

[BatteredFanSyndrome]

1 minute ago, dyst said:

Why does evidence need to be provided for you. Just look at the game and you should be able to see the product on the field same as the “trolls” see it.

 

Sam while talented was clearly “part” of the problem. He struggles to check down, does not create the pocket, he does not see the hot read and has some very questionable INTs and sacks that fall fully on him.

You sound like a guy who just regurgitated what he heard on Madden.  You want the QB to “create the pocket” 🤣.

 

As I’ve said on numerous occasions, if he was as bad as you say he is - there would be an abundance of tape all over the internet showing all the plays he’s missing every week.  He’s definitely regressed over the last month, but it’s not because he’s ‘not creating the pocket’ or failing to checkdown.  He’s seeing ghosts and out of sync.