Voice_of_Reason Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: QBs can be tough. Ozzie Newsome took Kyle Boller too. Bobby Beathard traded up to pick Ryan Leaf. QBs are a complete crap shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Voice_of_Reason said: Bobby Beathard traded up to pick Ryan Leaf. QBs are a complete crap shoot. Yep, and the allure to grab a potential star can make even the best organizations go full idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 53 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: But Mark Davis tho… Davis should make all his coaches get his haircut. Even playing field. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 With a rookie QB you have to have an O mind as HC. I know what happened in Houston, and I believe that is an abberation. Young QBs need consistency in the scheme, and the odds are higher that with a d-minded HC, you lose a successful OC who becomes an HC Again there are exceptions, but I would rather we go O minded 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, mojo said: Davis should make all his coaches get his haircut. Even playing field. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Some of our fans are just plain exhausting. Some guy just called Chris Russell yelling about how "this is the same old Commanders cycle of making changes". Dude, seriously how the **** is this the "same thing" if this is the first time the new ownership team has a chance to put their fingerprints on football operations? Nobody is saying it's going to work, but jump to a new team if your outlook is so damn bleak! 🙄🤦♂️ Edited January 8 by spjunkies 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: With a rookie QB you have to have an O mind as HC. I know what happened in Houston, and I believe that is an abberation. Young QBs need consistency in the scheme, and the odds are higher that with a d-minded HC, you lose a successful OC who becomes an HC Again there are exceptions, but I would rather we go O minded Texans hired a real good OC in Bobby Slowik jr. But I also think Stroud is special and would have been good no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 By the way that gif of Davis was his reaction after his head coach kicked a field goal instead of going for it on 4th down. One of my favorites. And he must be a great guy to work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinRedskin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, spjunkies said: Some of our fans are just plain exhausting. Some guy just called Chris Russell yelling about how "this is the same old Commanders cycle of making changes". Dude, seriously bow the **** is this the "same thing" if this is the first time the new ownership team has a chance to put their fingerprints on football operations? Nobody is saying it's going to work, but jump to a new team if your outlook is so damn bleak! 🙄🤦♂️ Man, I just listened to him and why even be a fan? That was brutal to listen to and already doomed Harris & Co., the season, etc. So does he expect a new owner coming in during the off-season and immediately win the Super Bowl? Really annoying caller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: With a rookie QB you have to have an O mind as HC. I know what happened in Houston, and I believe that is an abberation. Young QBs need consistency in the scheme, and the odds are higher that with a d-minded HC, you lose a successful OC who becomes an HC Again there are exceptions, but I would rather we go O minded The 1 and 2 seeds in the AFC are products of non offensive coaches developing QBs from their rookie years. Ben Johnson is my clear number one choice, but I don’t believe in putting up artificial parameters when doing a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Does anyone remember who else we interviewed to be HC after Gruden was fired? I'm having trouble finding it, with my point being I doubt the list was much to look at (as it was already predetermined)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Texans hired a real good OC in Bobby Slowik jr. But I also think Stroud is special and would have been good no matter what. Agreed. And Bill Lazor being there helps a heckuva lot too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, SkinsHokieFan said: With a rookie QB you have to have an O mind as HC. I know what happened in Houston, and I believe that is an abberation. Young QBs need consistency in the scheme, and the odds are higher that with a d-minded HC, you lose a successful OC who becomes an HC Again there are exceptions, but I would rather we go O minded I've been posturing this is not true. Look at Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore--none of their HCs are offensive minded, yet they continue to roll through coordinators and continue to win. Baltimore successfully developed Lamar Jackson, Buffalo with Josh Allen. Belichick never won anything without Brady--yet he did discover and develop Brady--all while bleeding offensive coordinators left and right. All due respect SHF (there have been several other respected posters as well), but the idea we pass on a Tomlin or Harbaugh because we might lose an OC is panicky. It's like passing on a date with with ScarJo because she might leave us. If we are going to be a consistent organization, we have to be able to make many good hires, not just one. Macdonald is my #2 right now, behind Ben Johnson. 7 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Some guy just called Chris Russell yelling about how "this is the same old Commanders cycle of making changes". People who call into sports radio in general--let alone that buffoon's unbearable show--are some of the dumbest mother****ers alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, PigskinRedskin said: Man, I just listened to him and why even be a fan? That was brutal to listen to and already doomed Harris & Co., the season, etc. So does he expect a new owner coming in during the off-season and immediately win the Super Bowl? Really annoying caller. Be patient with these people being negative. 25 years is a long time to be in a dysfunctional and abusive marriage. It’s going to be hard for some to trust again at first, but they will come around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Nothing to see here. This post is a figment of your imagination. Edited January 8 by spjunkies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PigskinRedskin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, woodpecker said: Be patient with these people being negative. 25 years is a long time to be in a dysfunctional and abusive marriage. It’s going to be hard for some to trust again at first, but they will come around. Oh no doubt. I am still reserved despite Snyder gone, etc but the way they chose to speak about Harris already, etc is although they made up their mind. That's all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If you have a shot at a blue chip QB prospect in the draft you have to take it unless you already have one. Period. End of story. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Some of our fans are just plain exhausting. Some guy just called Chris Russell yelling about how "this is the same old Commanders cycle of making changes". Dude, seriously how the **** is this the "same thing" if this is the first time the new ownership team has a chance to put their fingerprints on football operations? Nobody is saying it's going to work, but jump to a new team if your outlook is so damn bleak! 🙄🤦♂️ Sounds like the typical fans you run into on those Facebook pages 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, PigskinRedskin said: Man, I just listened to him and why even be a fan? That was brutal to listen to and already doomed Harris & Co., the season, etc. So does he expect a new owner coming in during the off-season and immediately win the Super Bowl? Really annoying caller. Listen guys I tried to get @Renegade7out of his doldrums last night but I can’t monitor all his calls 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Looks like a bunch of junk options https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/jay-gruden-hired-as-redskins-coach/2014/01/09/084fab48-7938-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html He was the sixth candidate known to have interviewed with the Redskins following offensive coordinators Darrell Bevell of the Seattle Seahawks and Jim Caldwell of the Baltimore Ravens, defensive coordinators Sean McDermott of the Carolina Panthers and Perry Fewell of the New York Giants, and Dallas Cowboys special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia. The Redskins had planned to meet with Vanderbilt Coach James Franklin, but he reportedly was offered the coaching job at Penn State. The team also had sought interviews with offensive coordinators Ken Whisenhunt of the San Diego Chargers and Greg Roman of San Francisco 49ers, and defensive coordinators Mike Zimmer of the Bengals and Vic Fangio of the 49ers. Thanks for this link for the 2014 search, I'm also curious about 2020. I did find the following: Redskins owner Dan Snyder moved quickly, though, ensuring the other clubs competing for the services of Rivera wouldn't even get an interview with him by bringing him in on the first day after the conclusion of the 2019 season and securing his signature before leaving their meeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I thought they had a quarterback. One with a lot of moxie. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Bifflog said: Thanks for this link for the 2014 search, I'm also curious about 2020. I did find the following: Redskins owner Dan Snyder moved quickly, though, ensuring the other clubs competing for the services of Rivera wouldn't even get an interview with him by bringing him in on the first day after the conclusion of the 2019 season and securing his signature before leaving their meeting. Oh man, I completely screwed up your question. Apologies, let me see if I can find something on 2020. I've never been good at multitasking lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Martindale out in NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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