Koolblue13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 We can bash the defense, but how the hell did the Giants only score 14 points? Did Tress Way break the record for punt yards? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: EB brought the worst player on this OL with him EB was in on the Gates signing EB was the one who named Charles the starter before TC EB is responsible for an OL that gets 7 penalties. EB calling 20 yard passes and having the QB turn his back to the blitzers EB putting together this terrible run game and getting away from it. How the **** does he get a pass? Yes the OL is bad and Sam holds the ball too long at times, but you can call slants and screens, move the pocket. Quick plays designed to get the ball out in less than 2 seconds. He isn't calling those until the end of the game. EB is keeping a 5 man protection when we're getting blitzed on half the plays and not adjusting is on EB. We thought Reid dumping McNabb on us was bad. He's out done himself with EB and Wylie. EB, JDR and Ron will never coach again in this league. EB is the main problem with this offense. He's clueless and doing a worse job than JDR. I'm fair with saying EB has a hand in this oline, but its too far to say he's responsible for it being so bad. Sure, he signed those guys, but he didn't have much to choose from. After four years, our oline shouldn't be this bad, especially with the talent we had before Ron got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Simmsy said: Yeah, they lost the locker room. Hook should've come after Bears game. RR is killing morale and further stunting player development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said: Ron is just going through the motions. I wonder what he actually does during the week. On a side note......would the entire scouting department get fired when he does? They are a major part of the problem as well. Who scouted and watched film on our new line.....total **** show. Well considering JDR is the one who seemed to really want Quan and Forbes, I lean towards blaming our coaches 99.99% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chris 44 said: I think that OL line coaching hasn't been talked about near enough. As bad as the individual parts of this line are coaching is just as bad. Stunts and blitzes have our OL falling over one another. Gates all but turned around to tackle Robinson himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tmandoug1 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: We can bash the defense, but how the hell did the Giants only score 14 points? Did Tress Way break the record for punt yards? They haven't scored a TD in 3 games or some ****. We gave them two with 4 PS Olineman. Would have been more if Barkley didn't fumble. I agree though......they held them to 14 overall, but man we should have had 9 sacks against that line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Conn Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: EB brought the worst player on this OL with him EB was in on the Gates signing EB was the one who named Charles the starter before TC EB is responsible for an OL that gets 7 penalties. EB calling 20 yard passes and having the QB turn his back to the blitzers EB putting together this terrible run game and getting away from it. How the **** does he get a pass? Yes the OL is bad and Sam holds the ball too long at times, but you can call slants and screens, move the pocket. Quick plays designed to get the ball out in less than 2 seconds. He isn't calling those until the end of the game. EB is keeping a 5 man protection when we're getting blitzed on half the plays and not adjusting is on EB. We thought Reid dumping McNabb on us was bad. He's out done himself with EB and Wylie. EB, JDR and Ron will never coach again in this league. EB is the main problem with this offense. He's clueless and doing a worse job than JDR. I agree with most of this except two things: 1. You forgot to mention lack of motion which is an enormous part of Reid’s KC offense that EB cannot even succeed in cribbing from. Or he’s too stubborn to do so, and is trying to do his own thing as his WR’s get locked down 2. I assume someone from the Reid coaching tree will give EB a job, but it won’t be as elevated as it was. He’ll be busted back down to RB coach, or he’ll be in some BS “offensive consultant/passing game coordinator” role where he doesn’t get to make any decisions but nobody has to admit how little responsibility he has in actually designing the scheme or calling the plays. He can grind tape for tendencies in peace and yell during practice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Simmsy said: I'm fair with saying EB has a hand in this oline, but its too far to say he's responsible for it being so bad. Sure, he signed those guys, but he didn't have much to choose from. After four years, our oline shouldn't be this bad, especially with the talent we had before Ron got here. That's fair, but then acknowledge that you have a **** OL and call plays accordingly. The Giants just put on a clinic on how to call an offense with a bad OL. We called the exact opposite. I'm not putting the entire lack of talent on the OL on EB, I'm not, but at least don't lean on it. It's like Ron gave EB a crappy ragged out blazer to drive to work and EB decides to take it to an offroad park and race it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dunfer Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Simmsy said: I'm fair with saying EB has a hand in this oline, but its too far to say he's responsible for it being so bad. Sure, he signed those guys, but he didn't have much to choose from. After four years, our oline shouldn't be this bad, especially with the talent we had before Ron got here. Giants backup oline with a backup qb game-planned against our vaunted dline. Im starting to think EB isnt good at calling a game Edited October 22, 2023 by dunfer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tmandoug1 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, mh86 said: Well considering JDR is the one who seemed to really want Quan and Forbes, I lean towards blaming our coaches 99.99% It would be interesting to see the boards as far scout's vs coaching vs owner input. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’m not usually one to wish time away, but knowing this is a lame duck season, I’m ready for the off-season and the hope that it will bring 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, wit33 said: Many teams have won SBs by getting the at bat through a wild card slot. not really from like 2007 onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Stone Cold said: I’m not usually one to wish time away, but knowing this is a lame duck season, I’m ready for the off-season and the hope that it will bring Hope. We’ve been living off hope for so long with this team. I would just like the chance to be confident in the off-season that we’ll have a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: That's fair, but then acknowledge that you have a **** OL and call plays accordingly. The Giants just put on a clinic on how to call an offense with a bad OL. We called the exact opposite. I'm not putting the entire lack of talent on the OL on EB, I'm not, but at least don't lean on it. It's like Ron gave EB a crappy ragged out blazer to drive to work and EB decides to take it to an offroad park and race it. Oh no, I have no idea what the playcalling was about, EB needs to explain himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conn said: I agree with most of this except two things: 1. You forgot to mention lack of motion which is an enormous part of Reid’s KC offense that EB cannot even succeed in cribbing from. Or he’s too stubborn to do so, and is trying to do his own thing as his WR’s get locked down 2. I assume someone from the Reid coaching tree will give EB a job, but it won’t be as elevated as it was. He’ll be busted back down to RB coach, or he’ll be in some BS “offensive consultant/passing game coordinator” role where he doesn’t get to make any decisions but nobody has to admit how little responsibility he has in actually designing the scheme or calling the plays. He can grind tape for tendencies in peace and yell during practice. It's like he never paid any attention to play calling before. It's so unimaginative and predictable. There are about 3 runs we use and you know when they're coming. No presnap motions, nothing creative. It's just run into the line or drop back and find a WR 20+ yards down field if you have time. He might get some BS job with Reid again, but I think this was Reids chance to dump him. I said when we hired him that it was Ron doing his buddy a solid and nothing more and I stand by that. He was just Reids growling mutt and that's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stihl89 said: not really from like 2007 onwards. Rodgers and Brady both won SBs as wildcards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Ball Security said: Rodgers and Brady both won SBs as wildcards. Eagles too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Eagles too, right? Nah, they won their division. They were running away with it when Wentz got hurt late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Quote Feels like Ol’ Riverboat is losing the locker room to me.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 This Rams vs Steelers game is great. These are two good fun teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Post game libation. It's all I got. HTTR! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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