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2 minutes ago, tomwvr said:

Is that landover ? I didnt think ashburn was that large an area 


Looking at the map, it could be. Wondering if they own everything between Broad Run, Loudoun County Parkway, Gloucester, and the W&OD trail… 

 

Even with some land use issues (broad run and the giant power lines) there’s still a massive chunk of land alongside Loudoun County Parkway that could be put to good use. 

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4 hours ago, spjunkies said:

 

It goes waaaaay back, but Dick Stockton kept botching his name during a broadcast. It became a funny meme in the old days of ES :)


I remember Scott.  Coach Gibbs took him up in a helicopter to see if he could hit the Earth with his pass as I recall. 😂 

 

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I remember watching the Scott cartoon right before heading out to FedEx for a game and thinking I was going to be laughing the whole time there just thinking about it.

 

That is an all-timer from Bang, perhaps second only to "Mike Vick takes a dump"

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1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

How long did it take to make something like that?

like 3 days. That was almost 20 yrs ago, amazingly enough. 
I used to come up with an idea on Monday and release them on Thursdays. That was the second yr i was doing them, and the quality did get better.

 

~Bang

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There's a bunch of them here
https://www.youtube.com/@bangcartoons2477

 

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They have all been funny, but this was your crowning achievement.  Still makes me chuckle nearly 20 years on.  

 Shoot, this one isn't even my favorite Redskins one,, of which there were plenty. I always liked the one with Snyder and Vinny as the gameday cops snuffing out t-shirts and signs

 

~Bang

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Here's the nitty gritty on how Snyder finally screwed himself over and lost the team. He really was too dumb to keep from driving the nail into his own coffin. After a long list of stupid, mean and greedy moves he finally pi$$ed off even Goodell, who had been trying to protect him. I've always wondered what it was that caused him to finally pick up the phone and call Bank of America. It's also clear that the Gruden e-mails played a significant role in the entire matter as well.

 

All it took in the end was for Dan to just keep being Dan.

 

This is a long but *thorough* post mortem on his downfall, too long to print here. A few samples are below (not necessarily contiguous).

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37965420/the-secret-history-dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

>>'He was free and clear': How the leak of Jon Gruden's email led to the fall of Commanders owner Dan Snyder

...No matter how the leaks were engineered, multiple sources draw a direct line from emails that trickled out over a few days in October 2021 to Snyder's crash and his imminent $6.05 billion sale of the Commanders. Within days of the leaks, a congressional committee launched a wide-ranging investigation of the Commanders and the NFL that forced Goodell, Allen and Snyder to testify under oath. The congressional inquiry would lead to a federal criminal investigation into alleged financial misconduct by Snyder and the team. As pressure mounted, Snyder bragged to associates that he had collected dirt on his fellow owners and Goodell that could "blow up" the league. Unfazed, owners finally all but forced Snyder to sell his beloved franchise.

 

Although multiple people paid a price -- or still could -- for a series of leaks that continue to threaten the NFL in the Nevada courts, no one suffered greater blowback than Snyder.

 

"He was free and clear that October -- he just had to wait out his suspension and let everything blow over," a source close to Snyder said. "A major miscalculation. Without the leaks, he might just have survived."

 

Although it appeared to owners and executives that the league and Snyder had worked together to minimize the investigation's impact, palpable tension existed. In league circles, Goodell appeared to be growing weary of Snyder. During the pandemic, it became a running joke among some owners and executives that when Snyder spoke on videoconference calls, Goodell looked irritated or distracted. But now, Snyder moved beyond simply annoying the league office to causing serious problems...

 

..."How stupid can you be?" said a source close to Snyder who was aware of the previous stories done by the reporters who reported on the leaked emails. "They left a trail in the dirt."

 

But another source who knows Perez disputed her involvement. The source said she had no reason to help Snyder and had distanced herself from him during her time on the Commanders' board. And Perez "had no knowledge that it [leaking] was even being contemplated," her attorney wrote to ESPN's counsel.

 

After Gruden was gone, Snyder had hoped to be welcomed back into the league for good. But his plan backfired. Goodell still refused to allow Snyder to attend league meetings...

 

....Gruden recently wondered aloud to associates why Dan Snyder would have had it out for him. He knew that Snyder hated Bruce Allen; Snyder had fired Allen in 2019, and the two were fighting over whether Snyder needed to pay the remainder of Allen's contract, sources said. And Gruden knew his brother Jay had shared some unsavory stories earlier in 2021 about working for Snyder, including telling the Post that the owner would "come in off his yacht" and pick players on the first day of the draft and override his coaches, scouts, everyone. Gruden thought back to an exchange with Snyder years earlier, when he had bumped into Snyder at a restaurant. Gruden believed Snyder was drunk, and he and Gruden started playfully trash-talking, with Snyder calling Gruden fat and Gruden saying he might "dribble his head into the asphalt." Both men laughed, but Gruden wondered if Snyder had taken offense...<<

 

 

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4 hours ago, Bang said:

like 3 days. That was almost 20 yrs ago, amazingly enough. 
I used to come up with an idea on Monday and release them on Thursdays. That was the second yr i was doing them, and the quality did get better.

 

~Bang

20 years old and still damn funny. Well done, brother.

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Issues in the legal negotiations between the NFL and representatives for Washington Commanders owner Daniel Snyder threaten to complicate the approval and closing of Snyder’s $6.05 billion sale of the franchise to a group led by Josh Harris, according to two people familiar with the conversations between attorneys for the league and Snyder.

It was not clear late Wednesday night whether those complications will affect the NFL’s plans to have team owners vote to approve the sale at a meeting next week in Minneapolis.

 was not clear late Wednesday night whether those complications will affect the NFL’s plans to have team owners vote to approve the sale at a meeting next week in Minneapolis.

According to one of the people with knowledge of the deliberations, the complications are related at least in part to legal issues pertaining to the leaking of emails that led to the October 2021 resignation of Jon Gruden as coach of the Las Vegas Raiders.

That person described the complications as “significant” and “not just some small snag,” expressing the view that the issues could delay the owners’ approval of the sale and the closing of the deal if they’re not resolved. But the person also left open the possibility that Snyder and his attorneys merely are attempting to extract last-minute concessions from the NFL on legal indemnification related to Gruden’s lawsuit against the league, and the issues will be resolved in time for the owners to ratify the deal as expected next Thursday.

“Hopefully it gets resolved,” that person said. “But at this point, it’s serious.”

A second person familiar with the deliberations confirmed the complications in the legal negotiations but did not provide further details.

The NFL did not respond to a request to comment late Wednesday night.

[ Commanders President Jason Wright expected to be retained after sale ]

Owners had been increasingly hopeful in recent months that they would be able to resolve their remaining issues with Snyder in a manner that would not impede the sale to Harris’s group. When the owners met in late May in Eagan, Minn., a person familiar with the NFL’s inner workings and the owners’ views estimated that a resolution with Snyder on indemnification was “95-percent done.”

But one person with knowledge of the negotiations between the NFL and Snyder’s attorneys said Wednesday that, while Snyder is not seeking for the league and the other owners to indemnify him against future legal liability, the complications relate to the willingness of Snyder and his family to indemnify the league and owners against liability related to the Gruden case. Snyder’s attorneys are arguing that Snyder should not be responsible for any legal liability stemming from the actions of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and league attorney Jeff Pash, the person familiar with the deliberations said.

According to that person, part of the complication relates to Snyder’s sister Michele being unwilling to agree to indemnification of the other owners from legal liability in the Gruden case. Michele Snyder is a part-owner of the Commanders, and all limited partners must agree to the provisions in the sale agreement. That person also said Daniel Snyder no longer is willing to sign an affidavit that he did not leak the emails that led to Gruden’s resignation, after previously being willing to do so.

According to a person familiar with the communications between the Commanders and the NFL, the team’s view is that all of the Commanders owners “have agreed to indemnify the league for any damages arising from the actions of the owners and the team.” Such an agreement, however, would not necessarily apply to the actions of Goodell and Pash.

That person said Snyder “has already testified under oath before the Oversight Committee that he neither leaked the Gruden emails, nor directed or authorized anyone to do so and does not know who did so.” That person said Snyder “has not refused to sign an affidavit

to that effect.”

Gruden resigned after the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times published emails sent to the team account of Bruce Allen, Washington’s former team president, in which Gruden used racist, homophobic and misogynistic language over approximately seven years of correspondence while he worked for ESPN.

Gruden filed a lawsuit against the NFL in 2021, accusing the league and Goodell of using the leaked emails to “publicly sabotage Gruden’s career.”

The NFL has denied leaking the emails. According to the final report issued in December by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability (then called the House Committee on Oversight and Reform) on its Democratic-led investigation into the Commanders’ workplace, Allen learned in October 2021 that many of the emails culled by Snyder’s lawyers from his team email account had been leaked to the Journal. The report said that when Allen called Lisa Friel, the NFL’s special counsel for investigations, to complain, “she indicated that the team was responsible for the leak, stating: ‘We didn’t do it at the league office. It came out of their side.’ ”

[ Jamie Raskin urges NFL to release Mary Jo White report on Commanders ]

Daniel Snyder’s wife Tanya, the team’s co-CEO, told fellow NFL owners at an October 2021 league meeting that neither she nor her husband was responsible for the leaked emails, multiple people present at that meeting said then.

Attorney Mary Jo White is leading the NFL’s second investigation of Daniel Snyder and his franchise. Snyder has declined to be interviewed by White, three people with direct knowledge of the league’s inner workings said in March. White was expected to make at least one more attempt before completing her investigation, according to one of those people.

The Washington Post reported in February that Snyder was seeking for the NFL to keep confidential the findings of White’s investigation. ESPN reported in May that Snyder and his attorneys were lobbying the NFL to limit the release of White’s report. The Commanders denied that report. Goodell has said the league will release White’s findings publicly even if Snyder sells the team.

The owners are expected to ratify Harris’s deal to buy the team from Snyder at next Thursday’s special league meeting, people familiar with NFL’s inner workings have said, if the issues with Snyder can be resolved

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/07/13/dan-snyder-nfl-indemnification-gruden-emails/

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Legal snags between NFL, Snyder threaten to complicate Commanders sale

 

Issues in the legal negotiations between the NFL and representatives for Washington Commanders owner Daniel Snyder threaten to complicate the approval and closing of Snyder’s $6.05 billion sale of the franchise to a group led by Josh Harris, according to two people familiar with the conversations between attorneys for the league and Snyder.

 
 

It was not clear late Wednesday night whether those complications will affect the NFL’s plans to have team owners vote to approve the sale at a meeting next week in Minneapolis.

According to one of the people with knowledge of the deliberations, the complications are related at least in part to legal issues pertaining to the leaking of emails that led to the October 2021 resignation of Jon Gruden as coach of the Las Vegas Raiders.

 

That person described the complications as “significant” and “not just some small snag,” expressing the view that the issues could delay the owners’ approval of the sale and the closing of the deal if they’re not resolved. But the person also left open the possibility that Snyder and his attorneys merely are attempting to extract last-minute concessions from the NFL on legal indemnification related to Gruden’s lawsuit against the league, and the issues will be resolved in time for the owners to ratify the deal as expected next Thursday.

 

“Hopefully it gets resolved,” that person said. “But at this point, it’s serious.”

A second person familiar with the deliberations confirmed the complications in the legal negotiations but did not provide further details.

 

The NFL did not respond to a request to comment late Wednesday night.

 

Owners had been increasingly hopeful in recent months that they would be able to resolve their remaining issues with Snyder in a manner that would not impede the sale to Harris’s group. When the owners met in late May in Eagan, Minn., a person familiar with the NFL’s inner workings and the owners’ views estimated that a resolution with Snyder on indemnification was “95-percent done.”

 

But one person with knowledge of the negotiations between the NFL and Snyder’s attorneys said Wednesday that, while Snyder is not seeking for the league and the other owners to indemnify him against future legal liability, the complications relate to the willingness of Snyder and his family to indemnify the league and owners against liability related to the Gruden case. Snyder’s attorneys are arguing that Snyder should not be responsible for any legal liability stemming from the actions of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and league attorney Jeff Pash, the person familiar with the deliberations said.

 

According to that person, part of the complication relates to Snyder’s sister Michele being unwilling to agree to indemnification of the other owners from legal liability in the Gruden case. Michele Snyder is a part-owner of the Commanders, and all limited partners must agree to the provisions in the sale agreement. That person also said Daniel Snyder no longer is willing to sign an affidavit that he did not leak the emails that led to Gruden’s resignation, after previously being willing to do so.

According to a person familiar with the communications between the Commanders and the NFL, the team’s view is that all of the Commanders owners “have agreed to indemnify the league for any damages arising from the actions of the owners and the team.” Such an agreement, however, would not necessarily apply to the actions of Goodell and Pash.

 

...Attorney Mary Jo White is leading the NFL’s second investigation of Daniel Snyder and his franchise. Snyder has declined to be interviewed by White, three people with direct knowledge of the league’s inner workings said in March. White was expected to make at least one more attempt before completing her investigation, according to one of those people.

The Washington Post reported in February that Snyder was seeking for the NFL to keep confidential the findings of White’s investigation. ESPN reported in May that Snyder and his attorneys were lobbying the NFL to limit the release of White’s report. The Commanders denied that report. Goodell has said the league will release White’s findings publicly even if Snyder sells the team.

The owners are expected to ratify Harris’s deal to buy the team from Snyder at next Thursday’s special league meeting, people familiar with NFL’s inner workings have said, if the issues with Snyder can be resolved.

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11 hours ago, Bang said:

like 3 days. That was almost 20 yrs ago, amazingly enough. 
I used to come up with an idea on Monday and release them on Thursdays. That was the second yr i was doing them, and the quality did get better.

 

~Bang

 

The older ones do have a charm to them, though.

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I'm surprised that it's taken this late in the game for that matter with Michele to become an issue, if that's what it truly is. I don't know if that ESPN article could have had any impact on the sale but as big a fool as it has made Snyder look like, it would be just like him to try and retaliate and make everyone else miserable.

 

It probably would have been better if that article hadn't come out till after the sale was completed at the league meeting next week, as had apparently had been expected. Hopefully the sale will still go through at that time.

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4 minutes ago, SonnySideUp said:

I'm surprised that it's taken this late in the game for that matter with Michele to become an issue, if that's what it truly is. I don't know of that ESPN article could have had any impact on the sale but as big a fool as it has made Snyder look like, it would be just like him to try and retaliate and make everyone else miserable.

 

It probably would have been better if that article hadn't come out till after the sale was completed at the league meeting next week, as had apparently had been expected. Hopefully the sale will still go through at that time.

 

I thought it was bizzare in that ESPN article that it was mentioned that some owners still don't think Dan is selling.

 

I also hated that WP article from weeks back with some owners saying that Dan got ripped off in the sale.  Feels like they are practically taunting the dude.

 

They've also for a group who want Dan out don't seem to be acting with any sense of urgency about it.  They aren't granted going slower than they typically do but also don't seem to be moving this in hyper drive either.

 

Some of the other owners don't come off that swift in the context of getting Dan out the door.  It's part of the reason I presume we've had to deal with Dan for this long, too.

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This latest Washington post article just seems par for the course with this whole sale. We always seem to get an article oh there is problems with the sale. Then a few days later a huge positive story comes out and we move forward. I am not worried, next Thursday Josh Harris will become the new owner of the Commanders. 

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