ToaCommander Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 To me Payne has performed better this year. I'd love to have both but with the salary cap and knowing teams will go crazy in FA especially on a top tier DT like Payne hitting free agency... Rather let him go and settle for the 3rd rd compensatory pick than using the tag when we know we can't sign him long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: They are all money driven...and they should be. And they all make money, but I have sacrificed money in my own career in an effort to be great amd I think a guy like Allen might too. At the end of the day the difference between $45mil and $60 mil isn't THAT much - plenty of NFL players choose a little less to try to capture greatness. I don't spurn the Kirk Cousins of the league for getting paid, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Skinn said: Lamar Jackson says hello. Lamar Jackson wants a ridiculous contract and gets injured. The Ravens say hello back. They’d be dumb to lock him up like Cleveland did with Watson. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Let me get this right, this thread is about which one they keep? Isn't Allen already signed? Isn't this just another discussion about Payne? Hasn't this been discussed (a lot) before? OK - some simple things: Don't franchise him - sign him or don't sign him Do recognize that he has become a high level DT Don't pay him Allen money - I have no problem if it is almost that level, but not that level Do consider that maybe one of the reasons this has been a breakout year is that Sam Mills had been misusing him. Don't worry about the "paying both" - cap keeps going up The Rook 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 They're both pro bowlers and the rest of your D line isn't, so you keep both. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinscub Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Do you think having two talented defensive tackles are "heaven sent"? Let's see who remembers this phrase from Redskins history. Edited January 12, 2023 by Redskinscub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 This reminds me of another, incredibly difficult choice. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 When we look at our D-line four first round picks. As of today, right now, everything considered, do you have more faith in Allen/Payne anchoring the line for the next 5-8 seasons or Allen/Chase, Allen/Sweat? Allen is already locked in, and Payne has performed the second best, IMO. So right now I think building the D-line from the inside out is the safest bet, however because of Chase's injury, it is hard to say how productive he can or can't be going forward. Sweat I think is definitely the most expendable right now. He isn't bad, but he hasn't been a game changer and if he wants to get paid like some of the premier DE's around the league, I don't see how you justify that kind of contract. The caveat is that Payne's level of play definitely jumped a couple levels this season. Is that him balling out for a contract, or an indication of the player he is going to be going forward? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 There might be a team who will pay him *more* than we paid allen, in fact I expect it. Thats my only point, I totally want him on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) So, having a DL that averages somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 mil per year is just a dumb way to allocate resources. I've been harping on this for a couple of years that decisions needed to be made. One of them should have been dealt when their value was higher. But that boat has sailed. I would float all of their names out and see what I got offered. I wouldn't want to deal Allen, but he'd surely have the most value. And if I could re-sign Payne, Sweat seemed amenable to an extension and I got a great offerl for JA (much better than for the the others), I'd likely take it. Probably the ideal would be to get a good deal for Sweat and lock up Payne long-term. But I don't know how much Swaet would bring right now, so it'd be a wait and see thing. Edited January 13, 2023 by Rufus T Firefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Franchise Payne. Right now, Chase is just a guy. Until he proves otherwise, you don't factor in signing him to a massive deal. Don't care about where he was drafted or his brand. Edited January 12, 2023 by Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Tress Way or Dax Milne? You are the GM who do you keep? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, petey hodge said: Tress Way or Dax Milne? You are the GM who do you keep? Tress all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, SkinsGuy said: Tress all the way. Tress is the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Sheesh Chris Jones is a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Gotta find a way to keep both. And I agree with Hooper about Chase...I know it's a small sample size of his talent that we're dealing with, and it's not his fault, but it's a small sample size nonetheless. We know what Jon and Daron do. Just my pennies. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinscub Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 8:43 PM, Redskinscub said: Do you think having two talented defensive tackles are "heaven sent"? Let's see who remembers this phrase from Redskins history. some of you may remember this https://vault.si.com/vault/1998/07/27/heaven-sent-the-redskins-have-put-their-faith-in-pricey-saviors-dana-stubblefield-and-dan-wilkinson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Its amazing to me that anyone would want to let a guy go who's peaking and only 25 years old and rarely misses games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, JSSkinz said: Its amazing to me that anyone would want to let a guy go who's peaking and only 25 years old and rarely misses games. Because its arguably the easiest to scheme out of the game. Easy to run away from. Easy to quick pass to death outside. Get tired easily. Its just not a good roster building decision to pay 2 of the same position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Payne or a stud LT/RT would be the better question. In all reality or at least mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said: Payne or a stud LT/RT would be the better question. In all reality or at least mine. But we already have Payne. Is there some elite LT/RT that we could get directly for Payne in a trade? I don't think so. In which case we'd be playing roulette trading a known for an unknown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, actorguy1 said: Hopefully close to an extension. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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