Ball Security Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: Scalise isn't any better than Jordan because he's a white supremist. Yeah, no doubt. I thought this was pretty informative about why one would support one scumbag, but be utterly opposed to the other scumbag. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: I read this as, he doesn't want a vote today. He still has a long-term plan to win over the holdouts. You are correct. Edited my post. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: I don't want temporary pro tem speaker powers expanded either. It's temporary for a specific reason. Didn't they change the rules to make it as weak as it is now? Congress has been allowed to make their own rules for themselves, there's no Senate Majority leader in the Constitution. Give "pro tem" enough power so he can hold votes like CR then money for Ukraine like we said we would for them. I'd figure they already have a carrier group out there for Ukraine, are there two out there now in Eastern Mediterranean? Edited October 19, 2023 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 For line of succession purposes, this means that Blinkin is third, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 Just now, Dan T. said: You are correct. Edited my post. I think there is just as good of a chance he gives up on this if they go another route. He wants to get back to his conspiracy hearings without any responsibility to anyone else in his party beyond his boss. It's not like the folks who are calling GOP Reps who don' represent them, are going to stop. It might even get worse. Just wait till one of these nuts shows up at the school for one of these Reps yelling how their Father or Mother needs to support Jim Jordan of all people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 If they're going to agree on expanding powers for McHenry just vote and make him speaker. All this other bull**** is just a big ol waste of time. Oh right silly me, that's the Republicans goal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Wiggles said: If they're going to agree on expanding powers for McHenry just vote and make him speaker. All this other bull**** is just a big ol waste of time. Oh right silly me, that's the Republicans goal. This is fair point, and I believe that's what's next. They need to get stuff done more then agree who should be Speaker, so I agree with letting him hold votes that keep the government functioning and kick this can of who the permanent speaker should be until they're done with all their holiday recess. Negotiating things like the budget to avoid a shutdown seems hard enough as it is for the House. Other aspects of the government can chew gum and walk at the same time, but the House is acting like arguably the most dysfunctional part of it right now, and I don't mean that in way to seem they having any function at all currently, it's come to complete halt they so stuck on stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Looking a little bit at Patrick McHenry's background, I would be okay with the GOP nominating him as permanent speaker. He's a conservative who has shown some pragmatism, and he's not a Trump lackey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 43 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Yeah, no doubt. I thought this was pretty informative about why one would support one scumbag, but be utterly opposed to the other scumbag. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I'm gonna bet Biden's speech tonight will include the lack of a speaker and hammer the gop for it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Expanding power is a lazy solution and lazy solutions come back to bite you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Ball Security said: For line of succession purposes, this means that Blinkin is third, correct? Yes. VP, President pro tempore of the Senate (Patty Murray), then Secretary of State (Blinken) since there is no Speaker. Speaker was the only GOP position in the line at the moment. 😆 Edited October 19, 2023 by The Evil Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, tshile said: Expanding power is a lazy solution and lazy solutions come back to bite you. Like, say, agreeing to allow one Congressman to blackmail the Speaker, to get voted in? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, tshile said: Expanding power is a lazy solution and lazy solutions come back to bite you. I suspect Dems will allow it because they see a need for government to still work even if Conservatives have been held hostage by MAGA. The likely easy out is to sunset the power and/or limit to only when in absence of a Sepaker. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, tshile said: Expanding power is a lazy solution and lazy solutions come back to bite you. Even if you're right, who's the speaker then? Not against going for broke with proposing Jefferies or just voting for the guy who's temp right now. But until Gaetz and his posse stop threatening to vote folks out unless they do what they want, a temp guy keeps from technically not having even that. I say give them a break and focus on stopping the shutdown, come to their senses and maybe even expell Gaetz to help get back to some level of functionality. This is a potentially serious level of ineptitude if they get backed into a corner of who to pick as speaker just to also negotiate to stop the shutdown right before the holidays and then can't get it done like the adults we elected them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: I suspect Dems will allow it because they see a need for government to still work even if Conservatives have been held hostage by MAGA. The likely easy out is to sunset the power and/or limit to only when in absence of a Sepaker. Me, I see Dem support as a "**** you" vote to Jordan et al. Perhaps a way of signaling that if the Insurection Caucus is making too many demands, there's an alternative. I will also observe that if they empower the pro Tem, he will have that power until the GOP successfully votes in a Speaker. Might be a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Spicy language Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Sounds like pretty much everyone is getting sick of Matt Gaetz and his bull****. 4 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Hide contents Like you know or care what the American people want, you mouth-breathing moose knuckle. Edited October 19, 2023 by mistertim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Spicy language Hide contents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Eli Crane represents an Arizona district that was cracked for 2022 to make it more Republican. He can shut the **** up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 What did the Freedom Caucus think would happen when they took out McCarthy? Oh - you guys want Jim Jordan. Pass the full FY24 spending bills and you can have Jordan. That will be the price of putting Jim Jordan in speakership. Or, they don't care that supporting Jordan will throw the majority away? This looks like the dumbest politics ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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