TheGreatBuzz Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: This thread is hilarious, practically everyone here is gonna vote D no matter what. I'm gonna vote anti-facist, whatever form that takes on the final ballot. Edit to add: People usually don't like single issue voters but I guess I am one now. Edited June 7, 2023 by TheGreatBuzz 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Say what you will about Christie. That attack line is spot on. In fact, I thought what he said after the line was quoted is better. "Do you think Jared is a genius?" Our problem is we don't have real options. The corporate media has convinced folks we don't have real options. That non-mainstream people cannot be elected. Yet we still have Marianne Williamson, Cornel West, RFK Jr. running truly non-serious vanity campaigns because .... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: No, they'll (CNN) keep moving right. It's where te $s are until the Boomers die. Weren’t they purchased like a year ago by a big time conservative person? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fergasun said: Yet we still have Marianne Williamson, Cornel West, RFK Jr. running truly non-serious vanity campaigns because .... ? There’s a financial benefit in it for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, tshile said: Weren’t they purchased like a year ago by a big time conservative person? Warner Brothers Discovery bought it. But John Malone, who sits on the WBD board, largely runs it. His idea was to reshape CNN to a centrist just the facts news outlet. There is a problem with that. If it's raining outside, you don't report that some people says it's raining while others claim it's not. You report it's raining and move on. Right now, CNN is giving time to the it's not raining morons. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I'm gonna vote anti-facist, whatever form that takes on the final ballot. Edit to add: People usually don't like single issue voters but I guess I am one now. I mean, I guess that depends on if you consider "everything" to be a single issue? Financially: Trickle Down Economics? Don't work Tax cuts for the rich, especially right before launching 2 major wars that span 2 decades each? Not great fiscal responsibility Only caring about the debt ceiling when a Democrat is in the White House? Not exactly a consistent belief Wanting to cut a financially solvent program like Social Security because you've raided the fund for decades to pay for other stuff (like the military)? Seems unfair to those who have paid into the system their whole lives. Socially: Attempting to govern the entire country based only on your religious beliefs and nobody elses'? Not very 1A compliant Wanting to ban books you don't like from public spaces like libraries? Seems anti free speech Refusing to take any measures to prevent mentally unstable people from obtaining guns? Doesn't sound very pro-life Wanting to remove women's bodily autonomy? Not very don't-tread-on-me And those are just a few of the biggies, barely touching on the fascism. So I guess if somebody wants to argue "You're single issue! You hate Republicans and everything they stand for!" then yeah, I guess that makes a lot of people single-issue voters now. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, GhostofSparta said: I mean, I guess that depends on if you consider "everything" to be a single issue? Financially: Trickle Down Economics? Don't work Tax cuts for the rich, especially right before launching 2 major wars that span 2 decades each? Not great fiscal responsibility Only caring about the debt ceiling when a Democrat is in the White House? Not exactly a consistent belief Wanting to cut a financially solvent program like Social Security because you've raided the fund for decades to pay for other stuff (like the military)? Seems unfair to those who have paid into the system their whole lives. Socially: Attempting to govern the entire country based only on your religious beliefs and nobody elses'? Not very 1A compliant Wanting to ban books you don't like from public spaces like libraries? Seems anti free speech Refusing to take any measures to prevent mentally unstable people from obtaining guns? Doesn't sound very pro-life Wanting to remove women's bodily autonomy? Not very don't-tread-on-me And those are just a few of the biggies, barely touching on the fascism. So I guess if somebody wants to argue "You're single issue! You hate Republicans and everything they stand for!" then yeah, I guess that makes a lot of people single-issue voters now. Everything you mentioned isn't even on my radar for 2024. I'm voting legit anti-facist stuff. Using the government to suppress free speech for starters. Voter suppression as the kicker. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Did not even get to the environmental stuff... Cuz, you know... having a habitable planet is nice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Did not even get to the environmental stuff... Cuz, you know... having a habitable planet is nice. Environment, education, LGBTQ+ rights, any minority-group issues, treason, etc....I left out a lot, I know. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Everything you mentioned isn't even on my radar for 2024. I'm voting legit anti-facist stuff. Using the government to suppress free speech for starters. Voter suppression as the kicker. Attempting to overthrow an election 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, tshile said: Attempting to overthrow an election Oh yea, that. How sad that I can decide 95% of my ballot without even getting to that criteria yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88Comrade2000 Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 The time for Christie to run was 2012. He would’ve been the nominee. Obama would’ve beat him but that was his chance to be the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jumbo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: Warner Brothers Discovery bought it. But John Malone, who sits on the WBD board, largely runs it. His idea was to reshape CNN to a centrist just the facts news outlet. There is a problem with that. If it's raining outside, you don't report that some people says it's raining while others claim it's not. You report it's raining and move on. Right now, CNN is giving time to the it's not raining morons. There's still a major problem in Malone's ear and life is heavily influenced by majortiy holder---morgan is his name if I recall--- who is very much right wing but also very smart. Morgan, and Malone, values what maga land delivers in energy and drive that leads to votes. They both detest the left side, though one likely more than the other. Neither are at all centrist. They both know enough to not try to turn cnn hard right but know the gain their worldview (and bank accounts) gets from splitting up CNN's core audience and weakening it's standing. So he picks comparatively "reasonable" adjustments to make like fronting arguments Iike the level of anti trump, anti many gop figures content of the recent past was "just too overheated" for a network that should be "even handed" in calling out both major parties etc etc. He also makes more "acceptable" major disruptions picking easy targets like lemon who has frequently been his own worst enemy and a credibility liability, like Cuomo too, for the serious journalistic face cnn worked so hard for many years to aquire. I think it's likely Malone figured he might pull of a long term rewire serving those goals or even if he'd get fired sooner rather than later could still make some big bucks and serve his allies quite effectively. Discovery brass has mutilated one of it's best products. It may be repairable but it will be a daunting task. Since Obama first ran my viewership of the the three big cable channels ebbed and flowed depending on the state of important events at the moment. Up to the last election I watched a reasonable amount of msnbc and cnn and a tiny bit of fox to be properly in informed of how that media was covering matters more than depending on them as a main source of information. For the last six months or do I rarely watch any of them for any reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Fwiw, as someone who detests news channels (and news programs), I consider myself to be entirely lucky to be largely immune to them. I wish them all nothing but abject failure and total ruin. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I remember how Jon Stewart would call them out every time they were wrong about something, which was quite often back then. Wish I could recall some specific instances, but...well, y'all know the aging brain... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Time to call it, the race for the GOP nomination is over: North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum Launches Long-Shot Bid For President North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, a former software company CEO, announced in a Wall Street Journal opinion column late Tuesday that he is launching his campaign for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. Burgum is set to kick off his campaign in Fargo, North Dakota, on Wednesday, The Associated Press reported. “We need a change in the White House. We need a new leader for a changing economy,” Burgum wrote. Burgum was rumored to be working with political consultants to prepare his entry into the race, which now has close to a dozen declared candidates, including two other wealthy, self-funding Republicans: biotech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and quality control expert Perry Johnson. Burgum, a 66-year-old North Dakota native, became governor in 2016 after a successful career as a software executive, selling his company to Microsoft for $1.1 billion in 2001. Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, China said: Time to call it, the race for the GOP nomination is over: North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum Launches Long-Shot Bid For President He has a more realistic path than Pence or Haley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: He has a more realistic path than Pence or Haley. That's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, China said: That's not saying much. No, it is not. 🤪 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Fwiw, as someone who detests news channels (and news programs), I consider myself to be entirely lucky to be largely immune to them. I wish them all nothing but abject failure and total ruin. 100%. Unfortunately I don't see it happening anytime, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, GhostofSparta said: So I guess if somebody wants to argue "You're single issue! You hate Republicans and everything they stand for!" then yeah, I guess that makes a lot of people single-issue voters now. I'm not single issue. I hate every thing Republicans stand for. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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