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The Official ES (or E...C) 2022 Free Agency Thread Signed G Andrew Norwell, Obada, Trai Turner...Goodbye Scherff, Kyle Allen, Tim Settle

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12 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

Yeah, and that’s where we’d need to move #11. I think we take a QB day 2. Several moving parts, but we remain optimistic...:)

There will be options at #11 for a trade down and a good place to be in the draft to trade down.  RR is a very patient HC when it comes to FA.  He's frugal with our cap money.  LOL

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24 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

Watson got what he wanted, so did the Browns. 

Agree that’s an overpay. Their other receiver Washington was touted in here by someone??? @Chump Baileymaybe??

 

I think Washington was criminally underused by the Steelers and think he could fulfill a Deebo type role for some some team and come at a bargain price. Dez Bryant seems to think Dallas will sign him but his market has been quiet...

 

James Washington to the Dallas cowboys just know you heard it first right here…

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Beane is being a ****ing weirdo about the McKissic stuff, the fact he’s talking about it so much is just bizarre. I get that something unusual happened, procedure-wise, and it comes down to some miscommunication between team/player/agent but come ON. Really weird story to see him comment on multiple times. 

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1 minute ago, Conn said:

Beane is being a ****ing weirdo about the McKissic stuff, the fact he’s talking about it so much is just bizarre. I get that something unusual happened, procedure-wise, and it comes down to some miscommunication between team/player/agent but come ON. Really weird story to see him comment on multiple times. 


in the context of several other players backing out of contracts as well in particular. And not just with lesser teams like us. Smith bagged on Baltimore and everybody knows they can do nothing wrong.

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7 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said:

 

I think Washington was criminally underused by the Steelers and think he could fulfill a Deebo type role for some some team and come at a bargain price. Dez Bryant seems to think Dallas will sign him but his market has been quiet...

 

James Washington to the Dallas cowboys just know you heard it first right here…

I did read that from Dez as well actually, Just recalled someone on here was in on him as a move we should make.

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23 minutes ago, Conn said:

Beane is being a ****ing weirdo about the McKissic stuff, the fact he’s talking about it so much is just bizarre. I get that something unusual happened, procedure-wise, and it comes down to some miscommunication between team/player/agent but come ON. Really weird story to see him comment on multiple times. 

100%

 

Here’s what I believe happened- Commanders thought he was going to get overpaid, so we didn’t make him a lowball offer, but wanted to see what his market was. Bills made a low/reasonable offer and then got mad that once Commanders found out how cheap it was, Comms said **** we’ll pay that- and McKissic would rather stay here.
 

Basically, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. It’s one thing if a guy uses your big offer as leverage in a bidding with other teams-that didn’t happen. Beane is mad he didn’t get him at a steal. **** him.

 

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41 minutes ago, Conn said:

Beane is being a ****ing weirdo about the McKissic stuff, the fact he’s talking about it so much is just bizarre. I get that something unusual happened, procedure-wise, and it comes down to some miscommunication between team/player/agent but come ON. Really weird story to see him comment on multiple times. 

 

I just hope John Mara doesn't get the NFL to fine us and take away draft picks for breaking the spirit of free agency.

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25 minutes ago, seantaylor=god said:

100%

 

Here’s what I believe happened- Commanders thought he was going to get overpaid, so we didn’t make him a lowball offer, but wanted to see what his market was. Bills made a low/reasonable offer and then got mad that once Commanders found out how cheap it was, Comms said **** we’ll pay that- and McKissic would rather stay here.
 

Basically, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. It’s one thing if a guy uses your big offer as leverage in a bidding with other teams-that didn’t happen. Beane is mad he didn’t get him at a steal. **** him.

 


It’s also ignoring that it usually goes the OTHER way around, where the original “home” team gets screwed by outside teams slyly tampering, whispering in agents’ ears about what their client could get in FA. That’s way more common than this situation, yet there aren’t unwritten rules about that? Come on. 
 

Feels more like Beane thinks he looks bad bc the AFC is in an unprecedented arms race and all he’s delivered is Von Miller, and he’s feeling like he needs to explain away what happened. Silly, we’re talking McKissic here not Christian McCaffrey for christ sake. Chill. 

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3 hours ago, RWJ said:

Makes sense I've stated from the beginning they are not going to lose that 2023 3rd round comp pick they will get from the Brandon Scherff signing. 

 

Yeah I think it would surprise just about everyone here if they wiped out that pick.  But there are cheaper FAs who wouldn't wipe the pick out and plenty of released players.  Plus if I recall after 4 weeks or so post FA all FAs do not cost compensation picks or something like that?

 

 

Dallas with another one.  For the time being we seem to be the most quiet of the 4 teams in FA. 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yeah I think it would surprise just about everyone here if they wiped out that pick.  But there are cheaper FAs who wouldn't wipe the pick out and plenty of released players.  Plus if I recall after 4 weeks or so post FA all FAs do not cost compensation picks or something like that?

Correct usually around the first week of May (in 2019 it was May 7th)

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18 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yeah I think it would surprise just about everyone here if they wiped out that pick.  But there are cheaper FAs who wouldn't wipe the pick out and plenty of released players.  Plus if I recall after 4 weeks or so post FA all FAs do not cost compensation picks or something like that?

 

 

Dallas with another one.  For the time being we seem to be the most quiet of the 4 teams in FA. 

 

 

 

 

 

Not the big play difference maker  lb I thought he would be coming out of college but a solid pickup-- as long as he's not being paid like a superstar.

 

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38 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

Now this is quality Photoshopping right here...

 

 

 

 

 

No doubt the expert work of the crack consulting team that designed the Commanders uniform and logo.

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The Browns Will Never Live Down Trading for Deshaun Watson

For so long Cleveland had been a lovable loser of a franchise, but everyone involved sold their souls to acquire a quarterback still facing sexual assault lawsuits.
 

Maybe this is how it goes after so many years of getting kicked around and picked on. If you’re a laughingstock loser for long enough, you start thinking like the teams that have long bullied you around. You lose your pluck and your grit and you turn a little bit colder because that’s what everyone else does, right? You convince yourself that winning is all that matters to everyone else, too, making all decisions in shameless pursuit of wins feel defensible.

Right?

You trash your own people, smear them on the way out and try to trade them with some anonymous middle finger about childish behavior. You trade for a quarterback who was accused by 22 women of sexual harrassment and assault and pretend that a criminal nonindictment from a grand jury is the same thing as an exoneration. You reward that same player who acted like the entire thing was just an inconvenience for him. How about we ask some of the people impacted by his behavior how it feels to carry pepper spray to work now or choose outfits meant to deter unwanted sexual contact? (Sports Illustrated’s independent reporting uncovered corroborating evidence for one plaintiff’s account, and another woman who isn’t suing shared the details of her massage therapy session with Deshaun Watson as a way of publicly supporting the plaintiffs.)

 

CHICAGO, IL - DECEMBER 13: Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson (4) looks on in action during a game between the Chicago Bears and the Houston Texans on December 13, 2020, at Soldier Field in Chicago, IL.

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Not only did Watson get a financial windfall from Friday’s absolute farce of a signing, but the Browns, according to our Albert Breer, structured the contract in a way that would minimize his fines if the NFL suddenly grows a conscience and suspends him.

The Browns are never going to live down trading for Watson, to whom they immediately gave a five-year, fully guaranteed contract extension. They groveled at such volume, oozed such desperation, that Watson couldn’t ignore them, even after he’d removed them from his list of finalists. Congratulations to a club that now becomes the fifth-best team in its conference at best. It cost them only their souls.

What could Watson have said in those meetings that not only eased their concerns (L-O-L) about the nature of the lawsuits filed against him, but also forced Cleveland to perform cartwheels in the street just to get his pen on paper? What kind of miracle happened inside those four walls?

The truth is that the Browns didn’t care. The Saints didn’t care. The Falcons didn’t care. The Panthers didn’t care. None of those teams for a moment saw the irony in their auditioning for Watson instead of the other way around. A handful of Pro Bowls went a long way, apparently. A down market for quarterbacks turned them all into nicotine fiends without a pack in sight, looking for old cigarette butts to smoke on the sidewalk.as a lost franchise but in a way we could all respect and admire. The team chugged in the mud, season after season, making comical pratfalls in the process but remaining endearingly The Browns. Maybe they had a lot of quarterbacks, enough that you could fill the full backside of an adult extra-large jersey, but they had fans who loved every one of them to pieces. Have you ever talked to someone from Cleveland about Kelly Holcomb? Did you ever for a second listen to the completely baseless momentary excitement for Jason Campbell? Brandon Weeden? Colt McCoy? Tyrod Taylor? Robert Griffin III? So many diehards believed in all of them, the way we might believe in new presidents or spiritual leaders. It was part of the entire milieu, knowing that it may not work out but willingly going along for the ride anyway, hoping it would all turn out fine.

 
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