NoCalMike Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I am willing to give Heinicke a shot, as a fan, who just wants to see this team win, I just don't see that it is likely we are going to be getting the rose-colored glasses version of Heinicke we got for about 7-8 games before the league figured out how to scheme against what he does well. I don't see how all that goes away, but I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 JAKE FROMM???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Fromm must have really impressed the brain trust in week 18 last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Live look-in at our staff cracking open the playbook for Pocket Tarkenton. Edited October 18, 2022 by TradeTheBeal! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Fromm must have really impressed the brain trust in week 18 last year. He's got the pedigree, Jake's Fromm State Farm. Not many QBs can boast that on their resumes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) I swear if wentz comes back in a losing season and gets just enough snaps to turn that 3 into a 2 that will be near criminal negligence. I recognize this team is in a tough spot, at 0-6 they could start planning for next year and make moves that help the team in the future but at 2 and 4 its just a tad early to give up quite yet, but realistically with this division being a brick wall they have to be at least thinking this year is over already. After this week the division is most likely going to look like this. Eagles 6-0 Giants 6-1 Cowboys 5-2 Commies 2-5 If that isn't enough for you to realize the season is over then you're Lloyd Christmas trying to hook up with Mary swanson. Edited October 18, 2022 by redskinss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, NickyJ said: He's got the pedigree, Jake's Fromm State Farm. Not many QBs can boast that on their resumes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 54 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Expectations were the offense would be 'fun' Remember when Sheehan talked to people in the organization and they were all like "this is a 12-13 win offense" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: I am willing to give Heinicke a shot, as a fan, who just wants to see this team win, I just don't see that it is likely we are going to be getting the rose-colored glasses version of Heinicke we got for about 7-8 games before the league figured out how to scheme against what he does well. I don't see how all that goes away, but I hope I am wrong. Two of those games in that final stretch were against Dallas, who had an insane pass rush and Trevon Diggs covering Terry. His other options got locked down as well bc they just weren’t very good. Not many qb’s can do anything with that. Dallas won’t be able to do that against us this year IF we are healthy. They don’t have players good enough to man up on Samuel, Dotson, Thomas, and Mckissick all game long. I would be begging for teams to play man coverage against us like they did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: JAKE FROMM???? No, Jake Fromm State Farm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, redskinss said: I swear if wentz comes back in a losing season and gets just enough snaps to turn that 3 into a 2 that will be near criminal negligence. I recognize this team is in a tough spot, at 0-6 they could start planning for next year and make moves that help the team in the future but at 2 and 4 its just a tad early to give up quite yet, but realistically with this division being a brick wall they have to be at least thinking this year is over already. After this week the division is most likely going to look like this. Eagles 6-0 Giants 6-1 Cowboys 5-2 Commies 2-5 If that isn't enough for you to realize the season is over then you're Lloyd Christmas trying to hook up with Mary swanson. Never put it past this organization to try and "win" no matter how much it ****s up the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zim489 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: Thinks Wentz's injury saves the staff, i.e. if they had lost the Bears game thinks operational changes would have been considered This is also omega lol. One game 6 games into the season in the ugliest game in years against a #1 pick competing team "Saves" them like they dont go 1-2 more wins the rest of the way. They truly think in only the next game timelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Professor_Nutter_Butter said: 19th time's the charm. 2021 "I don't want Taylor to be the starter, so going to bring a veteran in to start ahead of him." *Veteran starter gets hurt 2022 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Is TH the answer? Nah. But I’m gonna root for him to win just like I rooted for Wentz and just like I would root for Howell. Will say TH is fun to watch for me because he plays the game like a kid who just loves the game. So for the the foreseeable future until wentz or Howell takes over it’s TAYLOR GANG lol 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 With Heinicke official I will have to trust that the staff knows the vibe of the locker room and Sam Howell's readiness enough to make the decision to move to Heinicke. Hoping for the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This whole thing of Heinicke letting them "open up the playbook" sounds backwards, considering that they had to cut stuff out of the playbook last season because he couldn't make some of the throws needed. Was that something Breer is saying as his own personal opinion or something he was told by the coaching staff? Sounds like the former. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSurrender Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 16 hours ago, HogsVa7 said: That play to McLaurin is better than Wentz trying to scramble and taking a sack when I walk faster than Wentz runs. or that HORRIFIC keeper call in on the goal line in the bears game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, KDawg said: With Heinicke official I will have to trust that the staff knows the vibe of the locker room and Sam Howell's readiness enough to make the decision to move to Heinicke. Hoping for the best. Rick Walker said they'd lose the locker room if they started Howell. John Keim said there's a significant gap between TH and Howell, and to "not even go there". They're both right. It shouldn't even be a question. He's the #2 QB for a reason. Even the most critical people towards TH, have said that at worst, he's a "high-end backup". So, why pass on a high-end backup, for a super green rookie ? Edited October 18, 2022 by Malapropismic Depository 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, NeverSurrender said: or that HORRIFIC keeper call in on the goal line in the bears game. That was such a horrific play call it had to be a broken play. I wish a reporter had asked Ron about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Rick Walker said they'd lose the locker room if they started Howell. John Keim said there's a significant gap between TH and Howell, and to "not even go there". They're both right. It shouldn't even be a question. He's the #2 QB for a reason Okay? As I said, I have to trust that the staff knows what they are doing here and that Howell isn't ready and the team prefers Heinicke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Rick Walker said they'd lose the locker room if they started Howell. John Keim said there's a significant gap between TH and Howell, and to "not even go there". They're both right. It shouldn't even be a question. He's the #2 QB for a reason Is this according to people from the team that Walker and Keim spoke to, or is this just them throwing out their opinions? If it's the latter, it's basically irrelevant since they don't have any direct knowledge of the situation. Edited October 18, 2022 by mistertim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, mistertim said: This whole thing of Heinicke letting them "open up the playbook" sounds backwards, considering that they had to cut stuff out of the playbook last season because he couldn't make some of the throws needed. Was that something Breer is saying as his own personal opinion or something he was told by the coaching staff? Sounds like the former. Yeah, it’s an interesting remark to be sure. Knowledge of (and comfort with) the playbook vs arm talent that can operate the deeper passing game (not to mention intermediate throws to the sideline). I find myself wishing we were running a West Coast O rather than Air Coryell based one… though that’s more about our oline and short area pass catchers (JDM/Samuel/Gibson) than qbs. 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Is this according to people from the team that Walker and Keim spoke to, or is this just them throwing out their opinions. If it's the latter, it's basically irrelevant since they don't have any direct knowledge of the situation. I trust Keim’s opinion (no comment on Doc, lol), but yeah… that distinction makes a pretty big difference. And wasn’t that Keim’s take during the offseason? Wonder if it’s changed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) I have a feeling Samuel is going to feast with Taylor. Whats the deal with our TD machine Dotson. I remember his very first target - Carson sailed it way over his head. Maybe he can thrive on a wet noodle arm since he seems to adjust to the underthrown ball well. I think. I do think DBs in tight coverage are so ripe for PI's on underthrown balls but will Turner shelf all the deep calls because he cant throw that far? Edited October 18, 2022 by RandyHolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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