BigDibbs31 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I don't know if we win the game with Heinicke today. We don't score points with him either and needed to score over 24 today with a banged up defense struggling in the 2nd half. It wouldn't have been as embarassing as Wentz's hat trick of interceptions but the result would have more or less been the same I think. TH at least completes basic throws to RBs in the flat. Wentz has a track record this year of being really bad starting off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Nutter_Butter Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I'm glad Wentz provided that much-needed spark on offense. 3 interceptions. What a day. 💪💪 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, Califan007 The Constipated said: No he didn't lol...stop it. Game plan was to run the ball to oblivion Both were reduced to the smallest possible QB role Both were horrifically innaccurate Both had astronomical turnover worthy play rates Both were ineffective rushers Both put up piddling passing numbers. You take Wentz name off this performance and that is the same TH game you see every week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, FootballZombie said: Game plan was to run the ball to oblivion Both were reduced to the smallest possible QB role Both were horrifically innaccurate Both had astronomical turnover worthy play rates Both were ineffective rushers Both put up piddling passing numbers. You take Wentz name off this performance and that is the same TH game you see every week. But the defenders catch Wentz ints, there’s no pixie dust or moxie, hence why we lost 24-10 rather than like 24-16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Dude, me neither clearly. Never in my wildest dreams did I think Wentz would be as bad as he was. I’m not sure how much more clear I can be that he was god awful and I, Ron and anyone else who wanted to see more of him was wrong about it. But that doesn’t meant Heinicke doesn’t stink as well. But I don't expect you or I to realize it...I do expect Rivera to realize it, though. He's paid millions of dollars to realize it...which is why I started my post out the way I did. Whatever Heinicke was able to bring to the table that helped the team win, Wentz clearly does not. At all. (and I'm not gonna argue this point...because TH most certainly did bring something that helped the team win). Because I think the argument being given is that Heinicke doesn't stink as much as Wentz...not that he doesn't stink at all. We have some here claiming that how Wentz played today was exactly how Heinicke played over the last 9 games...I have no idea how anyone reaches that conclusion. Hell, I don't even think Wentz would play like he did today over the course of 9 straight games lol... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Game plan was to run the ball to oblivion Both were reduced to the smallest possible QB role Both were horrifically innaccurate Both had astronomical turnover worthy play rates Both were ineffective rushers Both put up piddling passing numbers. You take Wentz name off this performance and that is the same TH game you see every week. If the only thing you go off of are yards and completion %, I guess you could reach that conclusion. If you take your comment in bold literally, it means Heinicke's TD:INT ratio over the last 9 weeks was 0/27 lol... Edited January 1, 2023 by Califan007 The Constipated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4ever28 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 First game I’ve been to since 2013. This team seemed absolutely dead from the start. I mean absolutely no energy, no moxie, no swag, nothing. No one was getting vocal, no pumping up, nadda. They won’t play for wentz. Heinicke has no talent, but at least he has heart. Both suck though, Ron shoulda just let Howell play. I’m so tired of not having a freaking QB. It’s so ridiculous. I can’t help but repeat the mistake of letting Kirk go years back. I’m more astounded by so many of you who wanted Wentz to start, just as I was shocked by some of you who didn’t want Cousins years ago. Y’all make no sense to me. I like Ron as a coach, I really do. But Scott Turner is an absolute joke, he’s only in the league cause of his daddy. I pray to God Snyder sells this team ASAP. We will never be anything decent until he is gone. Heck I wouldn’t doubt it if he was the one who made Ron start Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderCarson Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 The mental gymnastics in here are the only thing keeping me sane after watching that debacle. @FootballZombie takes the cake though for saying Heineke plays like that every game. Holy moly my dude that’s grounds for a psychiatric evaluation. And no, heineke isn’t “good” or “the answer.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Ready for Lamar Jackson. We are incapable of trading for, developing, let alone drafting anyone if his caliber. And for his limitations, he's still basically Jalen Hurts on crack, and I don't see Philly complaining about it with the talent they have around him. The Philly experiment of respectable QB mobile surrounded by talent he just has to not get in the way of seems to be working, they bear Dallas if he's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 minute ago, CommanderCarson said: If it takes someone not named TH doing the same thing TH does every week for you to realize the absolute fallacy of any TH game... Even not saying "good" or not being "the answer" is not harsh enough retribution for QB play as bad as what we have seen this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderCarson Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, FootballZombie said: If it takes someone not named TH doing the same thing TH does every week for you to realize the absolute fallacy of any TH game... Even not saying "good" or not being "the answer" is not harsh enough retribution for QB play as bad as what we have seen this season And then to double down. My dude, I’m sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Wentz was as bad as I remember him being earlier this year, I don't know why we thought it would be any better this go around. I kept hearing how the mental reps Carson was getting was going to help him and now he would understand the offense more, remember that article someone posted where Zampese was talking about Niners game and how you could see Wentz had built a greater understanding of the offense. What a joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Here behind door number #1 we have a pile of crap, and over here behind door number #2... more crap 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpapeleta360 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I think next year we dont go looking for other teams qb and Howell should start every game no matter what. If he sucks maybe we can luck into the number 1 pick and Caleb. If he's good than we have a franchise guy. He just can't be mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, DiscoBob said: Here behind door number #1 we have a pile of crap, and over here behind door number #2... more crap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 No one will ever convince me that Wentz wasn’t Snyder’s idea. The pattern of behavior is far to significant to prove otherwise. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, djpapeleta360 said: I think next year we dont go looking for other teams qb and Howell should start every game no matter what. If he sucks maybe we can luck into the number 1 pick and Caleb. If he's good than we have a franchise guy. He just can't be mediocre. Can't run w/ 1 QB on the roster. Have to bring in new blood, and everyone is gonna be more expensive than Howell giving them the leg up. I don't think its possible to stack a roster with only 3 Mil QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, djpapeleta360 said: I think next year we dont go looking for other teams qb and Howell should start every game no matter what. If he sucks maybe we can luck into the number 1 pick and Caleb. If he's good than we have a franchise guy. He just can't be mediocre. My issue with this is the coaches swapped an below average qb with a proven bad qb and did not even consider going to Howell. If they thought Howell was a legit prospect as an NFL qb they would have deactivated Heiny wipe or Heiny hole or whatever name they gave him and activated Howell. Which goes back to the fact that Rivera rides the whims of others instead of being a head coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 The word was out on Wentz. There were just too many warning signs and Ron didn't see them. There's a new sucker around every corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Birdlives said: No one will ever convince me that Wentz wasn’t Snyder’s idea. The pattern of behavior is far to significant to prove otherwise. It'll eventually come out that the Wentz trade was all Snyder. He even used the "we have a quarterback" in a congressional deposition. Probably his last attempt to save his ownership. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said: My issue with this is the coaches swapped a below average qb with a proven bad qb and did not even consider going to Howell. If they thought Howell was a legit prospect as an NFL qb they would have deactivated Heiny wipe or Heiny hole or whatever name they gave him and activated Howell. Which goes back to the fact that Rivera rides the whims of others instead of being a head coach. Well, he didn’t know we could be eliminated from the playoffs today, so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 The Packers are playing their very best game of the 2022 season. Kicking the Vikings purple behinds. They have effectively taken the dagger our of our collective arm and jammed it in our neck. The season is over. Looking forward to seeing the rookie play next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, KDawg said: Well, he didn’t know we could be eliminated from the playoffs today, so… Probably didn't know he could deactivate Heinicke and activate Howell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 minute ago, dc1 said: Looking forward to seeing the rookie play next week. Vs Dallas' D... Yay. anything he gives us is gravy. You can't put him in a worst spot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, FootballZombie said: Vs Dallas' D... Yay. anything he gives us is gravy. You can't put him in a worst spot Dallas is shooting duds next week. It wil be like a 3rd week historical playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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