Barry.Randolphe Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 My hope is there is a run on QBs so that Kyle Hamilton drops to us at 11. Dude is a freak. 6'4, 220 lbs....can cover like a safety....can hit like a LB. Best FS prospect in a while 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I'm still not convince Chase has the physical tools to be dominant pass rusher. I'll keep saying it because nobody seems to want to respond to this point but Chase Young does not have the explosive first step to get the edge, the go-to move for all great pass rushers. He had it in college, a lot of that was being first off the snap and of course he was not playing NFL OTs. Until he gets the edge he will just be a good player and not much more IMO. @MrJLgave this a thumbs down. Would you care to elaborate? Did you see Chase Young getting the edge or being run behind the QB? Do you not have a concern about that? Please respond. 13 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I'm still not convince Chase has the physical tools to be dominant pass rusher. I'll keep saying it because nobody seems to want to respond to this point but Chase Young does not have the explosive first step to get the edge, the go-to move for all great pass rushers. He had it in college, a lot of that was being first off the snap and of course he was not playing NFL OTs. Until he gets the edge he will just be a good player and not much more IMO. @MrJLgave this a thumbs down. Would you care to elaborate? Did you see Chase Young getting the edge or being run behind the QB on a regular bass? Do you not have a concern about that? Please respond. Edited January 13, 2022 by Darrell Green Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I need all you mock draft gurus who really pay attention to what's being said around the league and to Draft experts and different teams' needs and who really know college football like the back of your hands, to tell me who are the best long-snappers who will still be available at #11?... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Califan007 said: I need all you mock draft gurus who really pay attention to what's being said around the league and to Draft experts and different teams' needs and who really know college football like the back of your hands, to tell me who are the best long-snappers who will still be available at #11?... Why? There's nothing better than a well-aged cheese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Burgold said: Why? There's nothing better than a well-aged cheese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I'm still not convince Chase has the physical tools to be dominant pass rusher. I'll keep saying it because nobody seems to want to respond to this point but Chase Young does not have the explosive first step to get the edge, the go-to move for all great pass rushers. He had it in college, a lot of that was being first off the snap and of course he was not playing NFL OTs. Until he gets the edge he will just be a good player and not much more IMO. My hope is that 2021 was just an off year. Chase because of COVID in 2019 never really had much of a rookie camp or any OTAs and because of business decisions skipped all the offseason work. I think he got it in his head that he already knew what he needed to know and trained hard, but not well. Hopefully, he recovers from the sophomore slump. If he really wants all the endorsements and side hustles, he's got to be better focused on his number one job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I'm still not convince Chase has the physical tools to be dominant pass rusher. I'll keep saying it because nobody seems to want to respond to this point but Chase Young does not have the explosive first step to get the edge, the go-to move for all great pass rushers. He had it in college, a lot of that was being first off the snap and of course he was not playing NFL OTs. Until he gets the edge he will just be a good player and not much more IMO. I hope you are wrong about Chase being nothing more than a good player, but last year, IMO, he wasn't even that. If last year is a prelude of the rest of his career, he will be considered a total bust. To be perfectly honest, I am very concerned about his skill, his will, and his IQ. Edited January 13, 2022 by cakmoney61 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Barry.Randolphe said: My hope is there is a run on QBs so that Kyle Hamilton drops to us at 11. Dude is a freak. 6'4, 220 lbs....can cover like a safety....can hit like a LB. Best FS prospect in a while Can he play QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksun247 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Sign a Vet QB. Don't wanna trade for one unless it's Watson. Draft best MLB at 11 or Hamilton if he drops. Then take QB Carson Strong in 2nd. He can learn behind the Vet and gives his knee more time to heal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 hours ago, ksun247 said: Sign a Vet QB. Don't wanna trade for one unless it's Watson. Draft best MLB at 11 or Hamilton if he drops. Then take QB Carson Strong in 2nd. He can learn behind the Vet and gives his knee more time to heal. Washington needs closer to a sure thing than a 2nd rounder with knee issues. If we can’t trade for Watson, I’d try to get Jameis and draft Pickett or Corrall and let either one sit a year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, ksun247 said: Sign a Vet QB. Don't wanna trade for one unless it's Watson. Draft best MLB at 11 or Hamilton if he drops. Then take QB Carson Strong in 2nd. He can learn behind the Vet and gives his knee more time to heal. Strong has good size and he was great the last two seasons but he played in the Mountain West. That conference had a total of 52 players in the NFL this season. IMO he’s a little too risky for a second round pick. I would definitely take him in the 5th-7th rounds though and hope he develops. Edited January 14, 2022 by Jds0912 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, No Nonsense said: Washington needs closer to a sure thing than a 2nd rounder with knee issues. If we can’t trade for Watson, I’d try to get Jameis and draft Pickett or Corrall and let either one sit a year. No ****ing way on Jameis... No retreads. I don't see Watson or Wilson coming here, so roll with the rookie in the 1st round with TH as back-up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, shemp nixon said: No ****ing way on Jameis... No retreads. I don't see Watson or Wilson coming here, so roll with the rookie in the 1st round with TH as back-up. Jameis might throw picks, but he will put points on the board. You bring Jameis in and we can still draft our QB at 11. Let him sit a year so when it’s his turn, he’ll be ready. We come back next with a rookie and Heinicke, that will be another year wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 hours ago, No Nonsense said: Jameis might throw picks, but he will put points on the board. You bring Jameis in and we can still draft our QB at 11. Let him sit a year so when it’s his turn, he’ll be ready. We come back next with a rookie and Heinicke, that will be another year wasted. Jameis will probably stay in New Orleans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 hours ago, No Nonsense said: Jameis might throw picks, but he will put points on the board. You bring Jameis in and we can still draft our QB at 11. Let him sit a year so when it’s his turn, he’ll be ready. We come back next with a rookie and Heinicke, that will be another year wasted. Rivera has already said the rook will start. They are not drafting him to sit and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, shemp nixon said: Rivera has already said the rook will start. They are not drafting him to sit and watch. This is a misrepresentation of what he said, @Skinsinparadisehas talked about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, shemp nixon said: Rivera has already said the rook will start. They are not drafting him to sit and watch. When did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, No Nonsense said: When did he say that? He didn't. As @ConnSKINS26noted, it's a misrepresentation. He said a couple of things that seemed a little contradictory though. He (semi-jokingly) talked about whether or not people would give a rookie (and himself) some time and then also said that a rookie could start immediately. I took that to mean that there's no reason a rookie can't start, but at same time you have to have patience as it can take some time for a young QB to get up to speed in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, mistertim said: He didn't. As @ConnSKINS26noted, it's a misrepresentation. He said a couple of things that seemed a little contradictory though. He (semi-jokingly) talked about whether or not people would give a rookie (and himself) some time and then also said that a rookie could start immediately. I took that to mean that there's no reason a rookie can't start, but at same time you have to have patience as it can take some time for a young QB to get up to speed in the NFL. Rivera was on someones podcast, he said in todays NFL you don't draft those guys to sit them, they play. I was not trying to misrepresent his words, that was how I took them.Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, shemp nixon said: Rivera was on someones podcast, he said in todays NFL you don't draft those guys to sit them, they play. I was not trying to misrepresent his words, that was how I took them.Have a nice day. He also said in another interview that you need to have patience with them too. I think he even mentioned that year 3 is usually when you know for sure. So he implied that a rookie can start but also that he doesn't necessarily have to and may take some time to learn as well. You have a nice day as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 2:16 AM, Barry.Randolphe said: My hope is there is a run on QBs so that Kyle Hamilton drops to us at 11. Dude is a freak. 6'4, 220 lbs....can cover like a safety....can hit like a LB. Best FS prospect in a while Wow. This is the guy. Forget rookie QB. Sign a qb, unless you get AROD, Russ or Watson, this is the guy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, sebestian said: Wow. This is the guy. Forget rookie QB. Sign a qb, unless you get AROD, Russ or Watson, this is the guy. He's not going to be there. He's the cleanest prospect in the draft. All the other guys have some sort of warts. Like Stingley hasn't been right since his stellar freshman season. Hutchinson has perceived athleticism issues. Is Neal a LT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, mhd24 said: He's not going to be there. He's the cleanest prospect in the draft. All the other guys have some sort of warts. Like Stingley hasn't been right since his stellar freshman season. Hutchinson has perceived athleticism issues. Is Neal a LT? You are more than likely correct. 😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 9:06 AM, mhd24 said: He's not going to be there. He's the cleanest prospect in the draft. All the other guys have some sort of warts. Like Stingley hasn't been right since his stellar freshman season. Hutchinson has perceived athleticism issues. Is Neal a LT? I agree that Hamilton probably won't be there at 11, but he's not the cleanest prospect in the class. Hutchinson is a freak athlete. He was #2 on Feldman's freaks list and he'll probably test super well at the combine. The only knock I can find on him is that his arms are supposedly a little short, but that's about it. Hamilton's injury history and position value are bigger headwinds on his draft stock than anything Hutchinson will face. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Thibs and Hutchinson will be 1 & 2. I think the Jets will trade up to #1 for one of them. I think Detroit settles for whichever one is left, and that Houston just goes BPA and that the Jags take Neal if he's there at 4 or Ekwonu. I could see Hamilton going at #3, #5/#7, and that this floor is probably Atlanta at #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 6:21 AM, Burgold said: Why? There's nothing better than a well-aged cheese. Gimmie a Corral with cheese. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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