The Official ES 2021 Free Agency Thread / Tracker Fitzpatrick, Curtis Samuel, William Jackson, LB Mayo, C Larsen WR Humphries, CB D. Roberts, KR D. Carter , LT Charles Leno, S Bobby McCain signed

[ExoDus84]

1 hour ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said:

On the basis Jackson replaced Darby, I’m a bit underwhelmed at the current attempt to improve the roster. Happy with the acquisitions, but nah, we’re at least one, maybe two players light in this window. 

 

We need to sign a FS, draft Kyle Pitts, and lab grow a mid 20's copy of London Fletcher.

 

Do that, and we are set.

[Conn]

1 minute ago, ExoDus84 said:

 

We need to sign a FS, draft Kyle Pitts, and lab grow a mid 20's copy of London Fletcher.

 

Do that, and we are set.

Pitts isn’t escaping the top-7 imo, might go higher than Chase. We aren’t getting him, moving up that high would only make sense for a QB, with the cost. 

[Burgundy Yoda]

1 hour ago, lovemaskins said:

I think QB is a little different considering it's the most important position as far as talent development and determining what we have and it would be malpractice to depend on broken ankle Allen and oft hurt and unproven Heineken beer. 

 

I actually hope we keep Fitz around a few years giving us stability at the position and play competitive football until we turn the roster into what the vision is.  We're a good 2-3 years away from being competitive if we build it right.  We screw it up overspending for free agents. 

This defense will be worse in 2-3 years because we won't be able to sign everyone. It doesn't take 6-7 years for a rebuild, its impossible to sustain a good roster group for that long. The roster has been rebuilt up and down since 2017. We saw last year at the very end the team play competitive football, and now we have to try to win some playoff games. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[Lovi]

Jaquiski Tartt returning to the 49ers for 1 year deal

[Conn]

4 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

This defense will be worse in 2-3 years, because we won't be able to sign people. It doesn't take 6-7 years for a rebuild, its impossible to sustain a good roster group for that long. The roster has been rebuilt up and down since 2017. We saw last year at the very end the team play competitive football, and now we have to try to win some playoff games. 

Yeah with a couple more pieces this defense and these weapons are ready to win now, I’ve been saying that all offseason and trying to communicate how difficult it’s going to be to keep everyone together if they’re as good as we want them to be. Especially the DL. Fitz is a good stop gap and keeps us competitive for the division for as long as he’s healthy and slinging it. But this roster will be ready to be a deep playoff contender for a win-now QB next season if one is available to slot in—whether it’s trading for a young one, or Wilson or Rodgers becoming available, or who knows.

 

Good drafting and signings can keep the ball rolling even when guys leave in FA, but we ARE in a potential window right now with good QB play and a couple of impact rookies. Never mind if we somehow lucked into elite QB play. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by ConnSKINS26

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

 

KJ Wright.....KJ Wright....

please!, makes too much sense.

[JoggingGod]

8 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

I’ve been saying that all offseason and trying to communicate how difficult it’s going to be to keep everyone together if they’re as good as we want them to be

The cap is going to skyrocket in the next 2 years and deals are being laid out to benefit teams more than ever before. So yes, you can keep all of your core.

Edited March 22, 2021 by JoggingGod

[Conn]

9 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

The cap is going to skyrocket in the next 2 years and deals are being laid out to benefit teams more than ever before. So yes, you can keep all of your core.

Contracts (in terms of percentage of cap) will rise with it, even if it doesn’t happen all at once

[JoggingGod]

3 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Contracts (in terms of percentage of cap) will rise with it, even if it doesn’t happen all at once

If it doesn’t happen all that once then that only further proves that the cap is a myth and you can afford everyone if you’re savvy

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

[Burgundy Yoda]

27 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Yeah with a couple more pieces this defense and these weapons are ready to win now, I’ve been saying that all offseason and trying to communicate how difficult it’s going to be to keep everyone together if they’re as good as we want them to be. Especially the DL. Fitz is a good stop gap and keeps us competitive for the division for as long as he’s healthy and slinging it. But this roster will be ready as a deep playoff contender for a win-now QB next season if one is available—whether it’s trading for a young one, or Wilson or Rodgers becoming available, or who knows.

 

Good drafting and signings can keep the ball rolling even when guys leave in FA, but we ARE in a potential window right now with good QB play and a couple of impact rookies. Never mind if we somehow lucked into elite QB play. 

I pretty much agree with everything you said. Picking at 19, the odds of us landing a young Franchse QB in the draft is slim. Rivera has been preaching all offseason, he is trying to build an extremely good roster. 

 

This roster can win now. All we've heard all offseason is that its a good roster but we need a QB. Now, we have a talented roster but the chances of Fitzy taking us to the promise land is slim but it does still have a chance to win, that small chance matters. It almost seems like the team is an audition for someone else out there. An elite QB paying attention is going to look at this roster and say "wow, im the only thing they need". 

Edited March 22, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[TheShredder]

23 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

You can't spend all you want even if the cap goes up 20% over the next 2 years without risk.  The guaranteed money turns into dead cap hit when the player isn't playing for the team anymore.  When these large amounts hit, from a player getting injured (and you have to pay someone else in addition), or traded or released, the math kicks in.  Your team gets put into a tight budget constraint.  You're unable to keep guys you want and need.  You can't sign new players at the current market.  I know it may appear like that's 'just not true look at the Giants', but yeah take a closer look at the Giants.  You're going to see that next year they're screwed if any of these guys that restructured and guaranteed money guys don't play well or get injured, they'll be playing guys off the street or have to resort to giving away future picks in trade deals.  These teams are 100% gambling that they're right.  Where the odds on FA's working out is low.  Very risky and not the way to build a sustainable competitive roster. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by TheShredder

[clskinsfan]

52 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

This defense will be worse in 2-3 years because we won't be able to sign everyone. It doesn't take 6-7 years for a rebuild, its impossible to sustain a good roster group for that long. The roster has been rebuilt up and down since 2017. We saw last year at the very end the team play competitive football, and now we have to try to win some playoff games. 

This is the very reason why you draft BPA. Stacking rookies onto the strengths of your team allows some of those players to walk and be replaced by a cheaper option who has hopefully developed into just as good of a player as the one you are allowing to leave. Man that last sentence was a mouthful. 

 

Now there are going to be truly HOF caliber players that you simply cant let walk. Chase for example. Or if you find your true franchise QB.

Edited March 22, 2021 by clskinsfan

[Burgundy Yoda]

15 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

This is the very reason why you draft BPA. Stacking rookies onto the strengths of your team allows some of those players to walk and be replaced by a cheaper option who has hopefully developed into just as good of a player as the one you are allowing to leave. Man that last sentence was a mouthful. 

 

Now there are going to be truly HOF caliber players that you simply cant let walk. Chase for example. Or if you find your true franchise QB.

Exactly. People don't want to hear this but Allen and Payne are very replacebale players. They are both good players, but neither is what I would call a great player. Now, if we had a DT like Quinnen Williams, a player who will most likely be elite at his position, you pay him.

 

Someone like Barmore would have been a fine replacement if we needed a DT this year.

 

Terry and Chase are the true keepers on the team right now for me. They need to get paid no matter what.

Edited March 22, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[clskinsfan]

Man. Jeremy Sprinkle earned 4.07 million dollars over the past 4 years. Gotta love the NFL.

[Est.1974]

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Beyond the fun and exciting offense, Washington also added the top cornerback available this offseason in William Jackson III. His three-year, $40.25 million deal is a great value, and this Football Team defense should be daunting once more in 2021.

Jackson certainly has the potential to be a very underrated signing. A little bit concerning that he had 2 concussion issues last season. Hopefully there is nothing underlying in that.

[JoggingGod]

17 minutes ago, TheShredder said:

You can't spend all you want even if the cap goes up 20% over the next 2 years without risk.  The guaranteed money turns into dead cap hit when the player isn't playing for the team anymore.  When these large amounts hit, from a player getting injured (and you have to pay someone else in addition), or traded or released, the math kicks in.  Your team gets put into a tight budget constraint.  You're unable to keep guys you want and need.  You can't sign new players at the current market.  I know it may appear like that's 'just not true look at the Giants', but yeah take a closer look at the Giants.  You're going to see that next year they're screwed if any of these guys that restructured and guaranteed money guys don't play well or get injured, they'll be playing guys off the street or have to resort to giving away future picks in trade deals.  These teams are 100% gambling that they're right.  Where the odds on FA's working out is low.  Very risky and not the way to build a sustainable competitive roster. 

You can get out of all of these contracts after 2 years. I guarantee you this board doesn't know the cap more than the numbers guys working in NFL FOs.

[clskinsfan]

Just now, Burgundy Yoda said:

Exactly. People don't want to hear this but Allen and Payne are very replacebale players. They are both good players, but neither is what I would call a great player. Now, if we had a DT like Quinnen Williams, a player who will most likely be elite at his position, you pay him. 

 

Terry and Chase are the true keepers on the team right now for me. They need to get paid no matter what.

Sweat is getting close to a must sign as well IMO. Although you have him through at least 2024 regardless. And a lot can happen between now and then. 

[Est.1974]

Did Orlando Brown ever get traded by the Ravens?

[FootballZombie]

20 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Sweat is getting close to a must sign as well IMO

 

Close?  Nah, Frankenstein is already there.

 

Like a top 15ish edge in win rate, despite a high double team rate

Lead squad in sacks

Developing a ridiculous ability to defend passes at the line

Great against the run

Played all 16 games... twice

 

You can not let that walk. If he keeps improving at the rate he is he will be an elite edge before the end of next year, especially since he is an every down edge and not a specialist.

 

I think your looking at Terry, Chase and Sweat when looking at the must signs.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2021 by FootballZombie

[PigskinRedskin]

 

 

 

Edited March 22, 2021 by PigskinRedskin

[Chump Bailey]

I'm hoping Caleb Brantley returns and gets some playing time. He's better than most think IMO.

[redskinsrmylyfe]

Giants are making solid moves In free agency. They are setting their self up to take the BPA at # 11

[Chump Bailey]

8 minutes ago, PigskinRedskin said:

 

 

 

 

 

Damn. That's a good signing by the Giants.

[steve09ru]

Giants making solid moves but at 10M over the cap 🙄- shouldn’t there be some spirit of the cap going on this year given the expectation of the next 2 years