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TheGreatBuzz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, visionary said:  Good.  I’m all for seeing who ordered what leading to the poor security at the capitol that day.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 But isn't the congresswoman who came out last night a Republican Lindsey? Morals and integrity has been thrown out with them a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 So. The GOP argument against witnesses is... we’ll have to call a lot of witnesses.  ooooooooook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, tshile said: So. The GOP argument against witnesses is... we’ll have to call a lot of witnesses.  ooooooooook. his point is that they recognize this means nothing to Republicans politically. It doesn’t hurt them any more than the last 2-3 days did regardless of how damaging the testimony is but delaying this process by dragging a hundred witnesses in so the stimulus isn’t passed until late March or April will hurt Dems/Biden politically quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, Momma There Goes That Man said: his point is that they recognize this means nothing to Republicans politically. It doesn’t hurt them any more than the last 2-3 days did regardless of how damaging the testimony is but delaying this process by dragging a hundred witnesses in so the stimulus isn’t passed until late March or April will hurt Dems/Biden politically quite a bit So the argument is that because of witnesses we can’t pass the stimulus the gop doesn’t want to pass and won’t support anyways?  gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Call them. Call them all. Call Lyndsey on his bluff and lets get to REALLY digging. DO it. DO IT.   DO IT.  ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, tshile said: So the argument is that because of witnesses we can’t pass the stimulus the gop doesn’t want to pass and won’t support anyways?  gotcha. no the argument is that budget reconciliation, which doesn’t need GOP support, is still a long complicated process and will not passed soon.  So further delaying that only hurts Dems. It does nothing to Reps that weren’t going to vote for it anyway because they weren’t the ones campaigning for 2 months that help is coming ASAP and then won’t deliver it until April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: his point is that they recognize this means nothing to Republicans politically. It doesn’t hurt them any more than the last 2-3 days did regardless of how damaging the testimony is but delaying this process by dragging a hundred witnesses in so the stimulus isn’t passed until late March or April will hurt Dems/Biden politically quite a bit I don’t see why they can’t schedule both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: So further delaying that only hurts Dems. I’d argue that it also hurts people in need of the stimulus, but sure, GOP senators don’t give a **** about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: his point is that they recognize this means nothing to Republicans politically. It doesn’t hurt them any more than the last 2-3 days did regardless of how damaging the testimony is but delaying this process by dragging a hundred witnesses in so the stimulus isn’t passed until late March or April will hurt Dems/Biden politically quite a bit  4 minutes ago, Bang said: Call them. Call them all. Call Lyndsey on his bluff and lets get to REALLY digging. DO it. DO IT.   DO IT.  ~Bang  Doesn’t calling a bunch of witnesses actually help the Dems?  They have an excuse to pause the trial for say, a month, to get depositions and whatnot together.  During that pause, they can work on stimulus, appointments, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, PleaseBlitz said: I’d argue that it also hurts people in need of the stimulus, but sure, GOP senators don’t give a **** about that. 100% correct. Those people also won’t blame Republicans for this in 2022 They will blame Dems because they were in charge and they didn’t keep their promise or prioritized the impeachment over them 1 minute ago, TheGreatBuzz said:   Doesn’t calling a bunch of witnesses actually help the Dems?  They have an excuse to pause the trial for say, a month, to get depositions and whatnot together.  During that pause, they can work on stimulus, appointments, etc. maybe a week to prepare for the case not work on budget reconciliation. Certainly not a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: 100% correct. Those people also won’t blame Republicans for this in 2022 They will blame Dems because they were in charge and they didn’t keep their promise or prioritized the impeachment over them I don’t know. Seems clear that Dems really want to pass something and the GOP is standing in the way of it. GOP senators up for reelection are the ones that will have to explain their opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, TheGreatBuzz said:   Doesn’t calling a bunch of witnesses actually help the Dems?  They have an excuse to pause the trial for say, a month, to get depositions and whatnot together.  During that pause, they can work on stimulus, appointments, etc. seems that way. The GOPs only strategy for anything is to delay, point fingers, muddy waters, and in the end do nothing. So lets do it. Call them all. Investigate all of it. (Interesting how Lyndsey threatens with "FBI investigations" when all he and his conspirators have done for four + years is try to destroy the FBI, and ignore everything they already found on Trump. Call them ALL. Do it.  ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said: I don’t know. Seems clear that Dems really want to pass something and the GOP is standing in the way of it. GOP senators up for reelection are the ones that will have to explain their opposition. All anyone was told was that if Dems win the Senate in GA they would get relief checks ASAP. All people know is that they have the majorities and the presidency, if anyone knows anything about budget reconciliation the only thing they know about it is that it’s a way they can pass this bill without GOP support.  and when they don’t get this passed until late March they’re not going to blame republicans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Llevron Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I’m fine with this. I think they can do both. They were going to have to do it without Republicans anyway and the country is probably better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mooka Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Buncha nonsense.  Since 2008 our government has done nothing except block the other side.  Its somehow a threat in 2021? Pfffft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Who honestly thought Mitch McConell would "vote his conscience"? He has shown us over and over that he HAS no conscience.  And along those lines, who honestly thinks that if, in the future, a Democrat faces an impeachment trial after leaving office the GOP would vote not to impeach because "you can't impeach a private citizen"?  Mitch McConnell's view is always, if it's in his own best interest: precedent schmecedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 The people who dragged a probe of an embassy attack in Libya for years and years want to tell you to move on from an attack on our Capitol instigated by the sitting President. EAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 So they're going to call it a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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