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Wildbunny Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I wasn't aware that Grant was a relative of Nostradamus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This is why Trump needs to be convicted in the Senate and denied any future federal office. It will get all Trumps out of government for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 hours ago, spjunkies said: Can President Trump be impeached after he leaves office? The expected impeachment proceedings on Wednesday against President Donald J. Trump will surface one of the Constitution’s most arcane questions: Can a federal official be removed from office if he’s already left the building? In President Trump’s probable second impeachment, current Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell has issued guidance that a trial, if needed, could still take place after the inauguration when Trump was no longer president. It is an open question as to whether a former president can face a Senate impeachment trial. In a recent post on the legal blog Just Security, UNC Law professor Michael J. Gerhardt points out one argument against the trial of a former president — that Donald J. Trump would become a private citizen after leaving office and the Constitution only applies to civil officers. Gerhardt also acknowledges the counterpoint: “The problem with this argument, however, is that presidents and the other officials who are subject to impeachment are not like the rest of us. Once they leave office and return to their private lives, they are still ex-presidents and former officials who may have committed impeachable offenses in office,” Gerhardt writes, and “litigation or prosecutions might not be able to get at the misconduct, since the scope of impeachable offenses extends to misconduct that is not an actual crime.” In December 2019, the Washington Post interviewed six scholars about that very question. Three believed it was a possible but unsettled question that a former president could face a Senate trial; two others said the Senate lacked such powers; and one scholar believed the Senate could try a former president. Scholar Frank O. Bowman also pointed out another precedent: the 1876 impeachment trial of William Belknap, who served as Secretary of War for President Ulysses S. Grant. Belknap faced allegations of receiving kickbacks, and he resigned moments before the House approved articles of impeachment. The House charged Belknap with “basely prostituting his high office to his lust for private gain.” At Belknap’s trial, the Senate passed a motion in a 37 to 29 vote that “William W. Belknap, the respondent, is amenable to trial by impeachment for acts done as Secretary of War, notwithstanding his resignation of said office before he was impeached.” The Senate later acquitted Belknap on all charges, lacking a two-thirds majority to convict. A third precedent is the case of federal judge West Hughes Humphries. Humphries left the federal bench in Tennessee to join the Confederacy as a judge without resigning his federal commission. In January 1862, House member John Bingham led the investigating committee, which charged Humphries with high crimes and misdemeanors. The Senate found Humphries guilty on seven charges in June 1862, and in a separate vote, a unanimous Senate disqualified Humphries from holding federal office again. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Dan T. said: <br /> 9 hours ago, Wildbunny said: I wasn't aware that Grant was a relative of Nostradamus... Ehh, that prognostication is a bit like that of psychics or horoscopes where it's vague enough that people can apply it as they please. Heck, I bet the Trumpers would agree with the statement but with the roles reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Grant was wrong. He said patriotism and intelligence would be on the same side. That's not the case here with the Trumpers. Obviously they're "patriotic" for all the wrong reasons. Maybe theys just really big Lee Greenwood fans? Idk they look like traitors to me either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, visionary said: Votes for/against it coming to a vote before Trump leaves office: 0/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 hours ago, clietas said: Grant was wrong. He said patriotism and intelligence would be on the same side. That's not the case here with the Trumpers. Obviously they're "patriotic" for all the wrong reasons. Maybe theys just really big Lee Greenwood fans? Idk they look like traitors to me either way. I would swap patriotism and ambition. I think that would be more accurate for today's political climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 We can only hope... Rand Paul: One-third of Republicans will leave party if GOP senators go along with convicting Trump Sen. Rand Paul warned of a mass exodus from the Republican Party if GOP senators come together with Democrats to convict President Trump in a second impeachment trial, even after he leaves office next week. The Kentucky Republican told Fox News host Laura Ingraham that he believes one-third of the party will leave if Trump's conviction comes to fruition. Paul added that he believes the second impeachment is "purely a partisan thing." Click on the link for the full article Just a partisan thing? Rand Paul is quickly moving up the list of ****tiest politicians with that comment and his comment about not needing to wear masks after being vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 So do we get an encore of crazy Guiliani in the Senate trial? He's already facing disbarment in New York. One thing you can say about the Trump/Giuliani circus, it's not boring. Will he bring any drunk witnesses or strippers? Crazy eyes or leaking fluids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Wiggles Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, China said: Will he bring any drunk witnesses or strippers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, China said: We can only hope... Rand Paul: One-third of Republicans will leave party if GOP senators go along with convicting Trump Sen. Rand Paul warned of a mass exodus from the Republican Party if GOP senators come together with Democrats to convict President Trump in a second impeachment trial, even after he leaves office next week. The Kentucky Republican told Fox News host Laura Ingraham that he believes one-third of the party will leave if Trump's conviction comes to fruition. Paul added that he believes the second impeachment is "purely a partisan thing." Click on the link for the full article Just a partisan thing? Rand Paul is quickly moving up the list of ****tiest politicians with that comment and his comment about not needing to wear masks after being vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dont Taze Me Bro Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 4:24 PM, LadySkinsFan said: This is why Trump needs to be convicted in the Senate and denied any future federal office. It will get all Trumps out of government for good. Until he starts his own party and his nominations to said party get the backing to make waves in the next election. He can still do damage, regardless of not being able to hold future offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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