mistertim Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: If our OL would stop dropping like flies, and we ever get some decent pass blocking, I believe we'll see more of those beautiful, well-planted, zippy throws, and less of the off-script/off-balance throws. Our OL is one of the bright spots of this team. Sure, they give up a sack sometimes, but every OL does. Over the past two weeks there have been tons of time where TH has had all day to throw and go through his reads. Our OL is constently ranked in the top 10 by PFF and PFN. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: TH has a whole heap of impressive qualities at QB. Some limitations also. I think we all see the good in TH, just to varying degrees. What he has convinced me of is that we should not go after a salvage case vet QB in the offseason on an inflated deal. I could actually see us extend TH if this form continues throughout the season. I’d still be drafting a QB high this upcoming draft. Get two good QBs on the roster on decent contracts and it’s a solid foundation. That's a good point. I like Heinicke but i am not on the verge of being sold that he's a franchise QB. But I love having him on the team. Whose to say some reclamation project like Trubisky or whomever is better than Heinicke? I could ride with a draft pick with Heinicke. Edited November 21, 2021 by Skinsinparadise 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: Not if it's a strong pass into the dirt. We've seen quite a lot of that out of McFlabb and Haskins. Why would Heinicke throw it into the dirt? He's already showed he's pretty accurate. Edited November 21, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: Our OL is one of the bright spots of this team. Sure, they give up a sack sometimes, but every OL does. Over the past two weeks there have been tons of time where TH has had all day to throw and go through his reads. Our OL is constently ranked in the top 10 by PFF and PFN. And it's not just the starters, C.Lucas and W.Swietzer have played well when called upon. Depth at all positions is very important as we've seen. Injuries are gonna occur in football and having the next man up who can handle playing full time is very important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: So by saying it’s ridiculous to declare he’s the love child of two Hall Of Fame QBs I’m admitting my hatred? Every QB benefits from a good supporting cast. Hall of Famer Brett Favre won exactly one Super Bowl; same as Aaron Rodgers thus far. Ironically, because of Reggie White on defense and Desmond Howard (Super Bowl MVP) on special teams. As Michael Scott would say: Irregardless, the point KingDaddy was trying to make is he sees some of the same traits in Heinicke that he saw in Heinicke's role model. KingDaddy wasn't saying that TH would be a hall of fame QB. You made that reach so you could make a snarky comment; thus revealing the hatred you have for being wrong about Heinicke. Which is the problem with most of his critics. They have to be seen as the gods of all QB expertise. When their theories are proven wrong they must switch the animosity to the player who proved them wrong. Edited November 21, 2021 by ThomasRoane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, mistertim said: Our OL is one of the bright spots of this team. Sure, they give up a sack sometimes, but every OL does. Over the past two weeks there have been tons of time where TH has had all day to throw and go through his reads. Our OL is constently ranked in the top 10 by PFF and PFN. You missed his point. "If they would stop dropping like flies." They're doing very good with all the shuffling going on. Now, just imagine they're all healthy!?!? I will say that Matsko is one helluva a line coach. He didn't get the press that Callahan did; who was overrated IMO. But man, what a great job he's done! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: You just made Peregrine's point with your snarky response to KingDaddy. I agree. Saying that Taylor Heinicke might not be a Drew Brees/Brett Favre understudy is 100% pure hatred. Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Taylor Heinicke all played QB. And they had strong arms, except for Heinicke. And they had incredible scrambling ability, except for Favre and Brees. And they all won Super Bowls, except for Heinicke. They're cut from the same cloth and anyone who says otherwise is filled with burning hatred. Edited November 21, 2021 by NickyJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellersfan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 TH is reminding me of Doug Flutie. Incredibly average but just keeps persevering and winning. Fans and coaches will covet the prototypical QB (6’5”, rocket arm, college pedigree) and Heinike will spend his career constantly finding ways to win and battling for respect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: You missed his point. "If they would stop dropping like flies." They're doing very good with all the shuffling going on. Now, just imagine they're all healthy!?!? I will say that Matsko is one helluva a line coach. He didn't get the press that Callahan did; who was overrated IMO. But man, what a great job he's done! Even with guys out they've been consistently highly rated. The OL is good. No need to really try to harp on them for not doing enough. They've mostly been excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: Every QB benefits from a good supporting cast. Hall of Famer Brett Favre won exactly one Super Bowl; same as Aaron Rodgers thus far. Ironically, because of Reggie White on defense and Desmond Howard (Super Bowl MVP) on special teams. As Michael Scott would say: Irregardless, the point KingDaddy was trying to make is he sees some of the same traits in Heinicke that he saw in Heinicke's role model. KingDaddy wasn't saying that TH would be a hall of fame QB. You made that reach so you could make a snarky comment; thus revealing the hatred you have for being wrong about Heinicke. Which is the problem with most of his critics. They have to be seen as the gods of all QB expertise. When their theories are proven wrong they must switch the animosity to the player who proved them wrong. I mean he literally said he’s part farve/part Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Heinicke can take this team a long way, and he's improving week by week. He doesn't need to have a rocket arm; if the team is solid in all aspects they can go a long way, who knows maybe all the way. He's got great scrambling ability, shifty, sees the field good, goes through his progressions, and i'd almost bet there are at least 5 or 6 teams that would love to have him on their team starting. I am not worries one bit about TH, its Gibson who concerns me. He's got the Chuck Muncie-itis. It doesn't matter one bit whether the WFT recovers the fumble or not, a fumble is a fumble, and at some point it will cost this team if he doesn' t get that crap fixed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: I mean he literally said he’s part farve/part Brees. I really don't think that went far enough though. IMO Heinicke has the arm of Favre, the accuracy of Brees, the footwork of Peyton, the brain of Brady, the release of Marino, the penis of John Holmes, and the miracle ability of Jesus (though he turns water into beer instead of wine...wine is for *******). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, mistertim said: I really don't think that went far enough though. IMO Heinicke has the arm of Favre, the accuracy of Brees, the footwork of Peyton, the brain of Brady, the release of Marino, the penis of John Holmes, and the miracle ability of Jesus (though he turns water into beer instead of wine...wine is for *******). It’s like if you don’t think he’s a QB reinventing the position then you must hate him. He’s played well the last couple of weeks undoubtedly but the short attention spans here apparently choose to ignore the 5 weeks prior. I hope he keeps this up but creating this absurdly overreaching comparisons make zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: I really don't think that went far enough though. IMO Heinicke has the arm of Favre, the accuracy of Brees, the footwork of Peyton, the brain of Brady, the release of Marino, the penis of John Holmes, and the miracle ability of Jesus (though he turns water into beer instead of wine...wine is for *******). Heini does Dallas. Take that Debbie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, mistertim said: I really don't think that went far enough though. IMO Heinicke has the arm of Favre, the accuracy of Brees, the footwork of Peyton, the brain of Brady, the release of Marino, the penis of John Holmes, and the miracle ability of Jesus (though he turns water into beer instead of wine...wine is for *******). You didn't say he had the leadership of Joe Gibbs, shut up hater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: I really don't think that went far enough though. IMO Heinicke has the arm of Favre, the accuracy of Brees, the footwork of Peyton, the brain of Brady, the release of Marino, the penis of John Holmes, and the miracle ability of Jesus (though he turns water into beer instead of wine...wine is for *******). Proof right here that no real rush to draft a QB. We have the best of the best. I mean when you have God as your QB you really can't go any higher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I look forward to us having a better QB than him one day soon. But I also look forward to him making it a really tough decision. He’s fun to watch when he plays like he did today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, zskins said: Proof right here that no real rush to draft a QB. We have the best of the best. I mean when you have God as your QB you really can't go any higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Had the game of his life. Being able to scramble at keep plays alive is his greatest ability. He had that one amazing play, I forget which quarter, where he was able to find I think Bates on 4th down which led to points. He doesn't have a monster arm, he isn't always accurate, and sometimes throws into coverage, but on the whole he is an above average QB. Definitely won't win you a championship though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Heinicke has now beaten three former league MVP QBs and in our four wins we're averaging right around 30 PPG. He's also led fourth quarter game winning drives in three of the four wins. Edited November 21, 2021 by Warhead36 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The last time the most furious bees in the hive were beating their chests, a really poor 4 weeks followed. Here’s to hoping thats not the case this time, because I’d prefer to watch meaningful games through the holiday season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Taylor now has beaten 9th ranked D and 2nd ranked D back to back. Not bad for an offense that is 19th ranked right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: It’s like if you don’t think he’s a QB reinventing the position then you must hate him. He’s played well the last couple of weeks undoubtedly but the short attention spans here apparently choose to ignore the 5 weeks prior. I hope he keeps this up but creating this absurdly overreaching comparisons make zero sense. Heinicke has had probably 1 bad game a few mediocre games with late pics, and some good games. The hate is unjust. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: Which is the problem with most of his critics. They have to be seen as the gods of all QB expertise. When their theories are proven wrong they must switch the animosity to the player who proved them wrong. I promise you care way more about being a QB expert than me. Way more. You are taking victory laps prematurely as well I might add. IDGAF about being right about Heineke. It would be way cooler to be wrong and have a QB than right and still hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: Heinicke has had probably 1 bad game a few mediocre games with late pics, and some good games. The hate is unjust. Everyone here: no one hates Taylor nor is anyone rooting against him. Everyone else: the hate is unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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