Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 You ever been scuba diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: If any of us walked into any establishment a year ago... Hat, sunglasses, a mask? That's the only thing that has been worrisome for me. Today, welcome to our business. How shocked are you gonna be, when you read about a mask-wearing customer being shot by a MAGA customer who doesn't like the liberal conspiracy against Trump? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: If any of us walked into any establishment a year ago... Hat, sunglasses, a mask? That's the only thing that has been worrisome for me. Today, welcome to our business. I'm not wearing the black scarf anymore to cover my face, the black leather gloves is enough that the looks I get is getting unnerving. Tried a couple different reusable masks before jus trying the scarf for convenience, then that dude in Georgia got shot jogging and I don't think he was even wearing any of that. There's no way I can keep up with getting disposable masks if everyone else is, but the whole profiling thing never stopped. Pretty sure Baltimore was one of many places warning about this when first started telling folks to wear scarfs on their face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Larry said: How shocked are you gonna be, when you read about a mask-wearing customer being shot by a MAGA customer who doesn't like the liberal conspiracy against Trump? I think it's the other way around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just wear this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 @Renegade7 I have bandanas and masks. Bought a Redskins one on Saturday. Washable is the only thing we should be using. Two layers of fabric is what is suggested. Will I get shot because I am wearing one that is similar to the flag of the United states of America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Would a Redskins helmet count as a mask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Larry said: Would a Redskins helmet count as a mask? Only if was the one that Sean Taylor wore with the tape on it. Sorry, I still miss that kid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: @Renegade7 I have bandanas and masks. Bought a Redskins one on Saturday. Washable is the only thing we should be using. Two layers of fabric is what is suggested. Aye, I can dig it. Quote Will I get shot because I am wearing one that is similar to the flag of the United states of America? You'd probably be safer with one of these: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 No irony at all in somebody who refuses for him or his surrogates to wear a mask at all, because they're intentionally feeding the utter lie that nobody needs one, also trying to profit from selling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Easy solution. Wear a bandana on your head and use it in public places as a mask. 😷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Quote Smartphone data shows out-of-state visitors flocked to Georgia as restaurants and other businesses reopened "See what a brilliant economic move it was to reopen?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I suppose it is good for Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: Easy solution. Wear a bandana on your head and use it in public places as a mask. 😷 Yep, the multipurpose one's look gone on Amazon, but we got ours at beauty supply stores: 12 minutes ago, Larry said: No irony at all in somebody who refuses for him or his surrogates to wear a mask at all, because they're intentionally feeding the utter lie that nobody needs one, also trying to profit from selling them. @Kosher Ham it pained me to even post that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ap-exclusive-us-shelves-detailed-guide-to-reopening-country/ar-BB13IuyC?li=BBnb7Kz more---inc video---at link Quote GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — The Trump administration has shelved a document created by the nation's top disease investigators with step-by-step advice to local authorities on how and when to reopen restaurants and other public places during the still-raging coronavirus outbreak. The 17-page report by a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention team, titled “Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework,” was researched and written to help faith leaders, business owners, educators and state and local officials as they begin to reopen. It was supposed to be published last Friday, but agency scientists were told the guidance “would never see the light of day,” according to a CDC official. The official was not authorized to talk to reporters and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. The AP obtained a copy from a second federal official who was not authorized to release it. The guidance was described in AP stories last week, prior to the White House decision to shelve it. The Trump administration has been closely controlling the release of guidance and information during the pandemic spurred by a new coronavirus that scientists are still trying to understand, with the president himself leading freewheeling daily briefings until last week. Traditionally, it's been the CDC's role to give the public and local officials guidance and science-based information during public health crises. During this one, however, the CDC has not had a regular, pandemic-related news briefing in nearly two months. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield has been a member of the White House coronavirus task force, but largely absent from public appearances. The dearth of real-time, public information from the nation’s experts has struck many current and former government health officials as dangerous. “CDC has always been the public health agency Americans turn to in a time of crisis,” said Dr. Howard Koh, a Harvard professor and former health official in the Obama administration during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic in 2009. “The standard in a crisis is to turn to them for the latest data and latest guidance and the latest press briefing. That has not occurred, and everyone sees that.” The Trump administration has instead sought to put the onus on states to handle COVID-19 response. This approach to managing the pandemic has been reflected in President Donald Trump’s public statements, from the assertion that he isn't responsible for the country’s lackluster early testing efforts, to his description last week of the federal government’s role as a “supplier of last resort” for states in need of testing aid. A person close to the White House’s coronavirus task force said the CDC documents were never cleared by CDC leadership for public release. The person said that White House officials have refrained from offering detailed guidance for how specific sectors should reopen because the virus is affecting various parts of the country differently. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The rejected reopening guidance was described by one of the federal officials as a touchstone document that was to be used as a blueprint for other groups inside the CDC who are creating the same type of instructional materials for other facilities. The guidance contained detailed advice for making site-specific decisions related to reopening schools, restaurants, summer camps, churches, day care centers and other institutions. It had been widely shared within the CDC and included detailed “decision trees,” flow charts to be used by local officials to think through different scenarios. One page of the document can be found on the CDC website via search engines, but it did not appear to be linked to any other CDC pages. Some of the report’s suggestions already appear on federal websites. But the guidance offered specific, tailored recommendations for reopening in one place. For example, the report suggested restaurants and bars should install sneeze guards at cash registers and avoid having buffets, salad bars and drink stations. Similar tips appear on the CDC’s site and a Food and Drug Administration page. But the shelved report also said that as restaurants start seating diners again, they should space tables at least 6 feet (1.8 meters) apart and try to use phone app technology to alert a patron when their table is ready to avoid touching and use of buzzers. That's not on the CDC's site now. “You can say that restaurants can open and you need to follow social distancing guidelines. But restaurants want to know, ‘What does that look like?’ States would like more guidance,” said Dr. Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials. The White House’s own “Opening Up America Again” guidelines released last month were more vague than the CDC’s unpublished report. They instructed state and local governments to reopen in accordance with federal and local “regulations and guidance" and to monitor employees for symptoms of COVID-19. The White House guidance also included advice developed earlier in the pandemic that remains important like social distancing and encouraging working from home. At a briefing Wednesday, White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany echoed the administration's stance that state's are most responsible for their own COVID-19 response: “We’ve consulted individually with states, but as I said, it’s (a) governor-led effort. It’s a state-led effort on ... which the federal government will consult. And we do so each and every day.” The CDC is hearing daily from state and county health departments looking for scientifically valid information with which to make informed decisions. Still, behind the scenes, CDC scientists like those who produced the guidance for “Opening Up America Again″ are working to get information to local governments. The agency still employs hundreds of the world’s most respected epidemiologists and doctors, who in times of crisis are looked to for their expertise, said former CDC director Tom Frieden. People have clicked on the CDC's coronavirus website more than 1.2 billion times. States that directly reach out to the CDC can tap guidance that’s been prepared but that the White House has not released. “I don’t think that any state feels that the CDC is deficient. It’s just the process of getting stuff out,” Plescia said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 At least the Deep State had the good sense to leak the whole thing. #heroes. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6883734-CDC-Business-Plans.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, China said: I don't know about you, but I can't wear my sunglasses with a mask. When I breathe out the mask redirects my breath around the mask (including up) which fogs my sunglasses. Try needing glasses to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 There's no real way to prevent fogging up wearing the basic masks. Main thing is staying calm and controling your breathing. Other thing is simply being in decent physical shape. If you're overweight or really out of shape you're going to have big problems wearing masks comfortably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mooka said: If you're overweight or really out of shape you're going to have big problems wearing masks comfortably. Where you see problems, I see opportunity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Gonna need me a Lin Kuei mask. I know you're out there, somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: I suppose it is good for Mary. Why? I don't want anyone doing anything. Our dining room is closed, but we're doing well with takeout & delivery...I want ATL to stay shut & everyone from outta town get the **** back where they came from. Safely, of course. 😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-blocks-cdc-guidance-over-economic-and-religious-concerns/ar-BB13KMEd?li=BBnb7Kz posted one earlier, this is a different report with other details by maggie haberman and abby goodnough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 "Religious concerns"? Fighting plagues is now anti-God, or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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