BBC: China pneumonia outbreak: COVID-19 Global Pandemic

[Cooked Crack]

 

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[Cooked Crack]

 

Very strategic 

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

Aren’t there a lot of old people in Florida?

[zCommander]

41 minutes ago, techboy said:

 

All right, fine. You have the resources, training, and equipment to stay safe. That means we can let the "idiots kill themselves", because hey... YOU know how to stay safe. Screw the poor single mother who has to go to her job at the grocery store, because she can't afford to stay home, and wouldn't know how to properly use an N95 mask if she could afford one. It's her fault for living in area that doesn't have a mask ordinance, right?

 

If it makes you feel better, I'm removing "naive" from my list of explanations for your position.

 

I do think this has become too much about your dangerous thought process, though, and since I'm guessing you don't have any role in public policy, I'll leave it at that.

 

I don't stay home either. I have been to 4 animal hospitals where most of the employees were not even wearing a mask. Two nursery homes in the last 2 months. As an IT guy I have to be out and about too. I don't have a fancy N95 with outlets or anything. Again, I will do whatever it takes to protect myself regardless of what others are doing. That is my main point. 

 

Do you really need a mask ordinance? I would think by now it would just be common sense. 

 

I know you like to bring the poor into this but even the poor can get a decent mask (if not already have) for under $50. I would hope one could afford that and that it is more important than their life. you don't have to have a N95 to be safe. Multi-layered masks are efficient as well. The droplets laced with the virus will be filtered. You can spray your mask with 70% isopropyl alcohol and can reuse the masks or extended it's usage. Again, you don't have to break the bank to stay alive. 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by zskins

[zCommander]

1 minute ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Aren’t there a lot of old people in Florida?

 

Yes. Most snowbirds might have already left though. 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

9 hours ago, Jumbo said:

for me the focus of the article is the mask topic and it goes here, and i know this next is also a "cops who need to be fired" thread comment but there is a yuge purge needed of white rightwing leo's made across the nation....yeah, i know but i make no apologies intellectually or morally/ethically...one self-criticism i'll make is it's not realistic but i can advance the notion and promote what it addresses   

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dont-sheep-washington-sheriff-suggests-200339199.html

 

'Don't be a Sheep': Washington Sheriff Suggests Residents Defy Statewide Mask Rule

 

 

video at link where you can "see the people" and watch them interact with sheriff ****-for-brains (chehalis, though small, is not some backwater isolated "podunk' place)

 

 

I desperately wish I had been there...I would have walked into the middle of the crowd acting like I agreed with the guy...then said "By the way, I tested positive yesterday" and then would have started coughing up a storm right i the middle of all of them.

[RedskinsFan44]

14 minutes ago, zskins said:

 

I don't stay home either. I have been to 4 animal hospitals where most of the employees were not even wearing a mask. Two nursery homes in the last 2 months. As an IT guy I have to be out and about too. I don't have a fancy N95 with outlets or anything. Again, I will do whatever it takes to protect myself regardless of what others are doing. That is my main point. 

 

Do you really need a mask ordinance? I would think by now it would just be common sense. 

 

I know you like to bring the poor into this but even the poor can get a decent mask (if not already have) for under $50. I would hope one could afford that and that it is more important than their life. you don't have to have a N95 to be safe. Multi-layered masks are efficient as well. The droplets laced with the virus will be filtered. You can spray your mask with 70% isopropyl alcohol and can reuse the masks or extended it's usage. Again, you don't have to break the bank to stay alive. 

 

 

Masks should be given out for free to whoever needs one. Hand sanitizer should be given out free. It's stupid how basic things have been neglected in favor of pretending the virus will go away because we want it to.

[LadySkinsFan]

Unfortunately, the U.S. is too excess profit motivated and has lost its humanity and compassion.

[zCommander]

5 hours ago, RedskinsFan44 said:

Masks should be given out for free to whoever needs one. Hand sanitizer should be given out free. It's stupid how basic things have been neglected in favor of pretending the virus will go away because we want it to.

 

I was at Best Buy the other day and as soon you walked in there was a table there with the employee telling the customer the expectations and how they can help them. They also had bottles of hand sanitizers and were giving out free masks. I was impressed. 😊

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by zskins

[RedskinsFan44]

4 hours ago, zskins said:

 

I was at Best Buy the other day and as soon you walked in there was a table there with the employee telling the customer the expectations and how they can help them. They also had bottles of hand sanitizers and were giving out free masks. I was impressed. 😊

 

That is awesome but I would like to see (maybe it's already happening) distribution of these supplies to impoverished areas by the government.

[goskins10]

The latest from our friend Randy Rainbow - Could have gone in the trump thread but it is about wearing a mask so I put it here as part of the covid.  It's funny no matter where you put it but makes a better point here - at least to me.    Warning - There is a little bit of language. 

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[techboy]

13 hours ago, zskins said:

Do you really need a mask ordinance?

YES.

 

I wasn't going to respond to this*. since fortunately you work in IT, not a Mayor's office, but as it happens Dr. Scott Gottlieb, who is former head of the FDA among other things, touched on this yesterday. I've even taken the extra step of setting the video to play at the exact point he talks about it. Take 30 seconds of your time and watch this.

 

*I was going to be the first person in the history of the internet to actually follow through with a stated intent to "leave it there".

 

 

[The Sisko]

14 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Aren’t there a lot of old people in Florida?

That’s fake news. 

[Renegade7]

14 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Aren’t there a lot of old people in Florida?

 

For now... 😟

[TradeTheBeal!]

1 minute ago, Renegade7 said:

 

For now... 😟

 

I was waiting for this, but I wasn’t gonna be the one.

[China]

What up G?!

 

Coronavirus mutation has taken over the world. Scientists are trying to understand why.

 

When the first coronavirus cases in Chicago appeared in January, they bore the same genetic signatures as a germ that emerged in China weeks before.

 

But as Egon Ozer, an infectious-disease specialist at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, examined the genetic structure of virus samples from local patients, he noticed something different.

 

A change in the virus was appearing again and again. This mutation, associated with outbreaks in Europe and New York, eventually took over the city. By May, it was found in 95 percent of all the genomes Ozer sequenced.

 

At a glance, the mutation seemed trivial. About 1,300 amino acids serve as building blocks for a protein on the surface of the virus. In the mutant virus, the genetic instructions for just one of those amino acids - number 614 - switched in the new variant from a "D" (shorthand for aspartic acid) to a "G" (short for glycine).

 

But the location was significant, because the switch occurred in the part of the genome that codes for the all-important "spike protein" - the protruding structure that gives the coronavirus its crownlike profile and allows it to enter human cells the way a burglar picks a lock.

 

And its ubiquity is undeniable. Of the approximately 50,000 genomes of the new virus that researchers worldwide have uploaded to a shared database, about 70% carry the mutation, officially designated D614G but known more familiarly to scientists as "G."

 

"G" hasn't just dominated the outbreak in Chicago - it has taken over the world. Now scientists are racing to figure out what it means.

 

At least four laboratory experiments suggest that the mutation makes the virus more infectious, although none of that work has been peer-reviewed. Another unpublished study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory asserts that patients with the G variant actually have more virus in their bodies, making them more likely to spread it to others.

The mutation doesn't appear to make people sicker, but a growing number of scientists worry that it has made the virus more contagious.

 

"The epidemiological study and our data together really explain why the [G variant's] spread in Europe and the U.S. was really fast," said Hyeryun Choe, a virologist at Scripps Research and a lead author of an unpublished study on the G variant's enhanced infectiousness in laboratory cell cultures. "This is not just accidental."

 

Click on the link for the full article

[LadySkinsFan]

We have no idea what this virus can do or be. That's why predictions for an early vaccines are not feasible. Beware Trump announcing a vaccine in October, a so-called October Surprise. It's not happening and any such announcements should be viewed with suspicion.

[China]

Coronavirus: Swift and dangerous turn in Texas cases, says governor

 

The spread of coronavirus infections has taken a "swift and very dangerous turn" in the US state of Texas, Governor Greg Abbott has warned.

 

"Over just the past few weeks, the daily number of cases have gone from an average of about 2,000, to more than 5,000," Mr Abbott said on Sunday.

 

 

Several southern and western states have recorded a surge in cases after lockdown restrictions were eased.

 

The number of reported infections in the US has now surpassed 2.5 million.

 

Over 125,000 Covid-19-related deaths have been confirmed nationwide - more than in any other country.

 

The spike has led officials in Texas, Florida and other states to tighten restrictions on business again, with warnings that hospitals may soon be overwhelmed.

 

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was speaking at a joint news conference with Governor Abbott on Sunday, said that a nationwide mandate to wear face coverings was "definitely long overdue".

 

"We have the worst record of any country in the world," she added.

 

In the Texas state capital of Austin, a requirement to wear face coverings in some circumstances in order to help mitigate the spread of the virus led to demonstrations on the city's streets by people objecting to the measure.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[The Evil Genius]

Did you guys know the FDA just approved a treatment that reduces your chance of getting COVID-19 by 5X?

 

Its trade name is Wearamaskasshole. 

 

Side effects include mild inconvenience, possible victim complex, fear of people thinking you are a sheeple, being ostracized by your anti-vax plandemic bros, and the power to stop your own asymptomatic transmission as this country stubbornly dives right on into that second wave.

 

Check with your doctor, or really anyone, to see if Wearamaskasshole is right for you.

Edited June 29, 2020 by The Evil Genius

[zCommander]

5 hours ago, techboy said:

YES.

 

I wasn't going to respond to this*. since fortunately you work in IT, not a Mayor's office, but as it happens Dr. Scott Gottlieb, who is former head of the FDA among other things, touched on this yesterday. I've even taken the extra step of setting the video to play at the exact point he talks about it. Take 30 seconds of your time and watch this.

 

*I was going to be the first person in the history of the internet to actually follow through with a stated intent to "leave it there".

 

 

 

I know this. Not naive you know. Do you know how would a mask ordinance work for people who refuse to wear one based in their freedom and their constitutional rights? 

[China]

2 minutes ago, zskins said:

 

I know this. Not naive you know. Do you know how would a mask ordinance work for people who refuse to wear one based in their freedom and their constitutional rights? 

 

The same way that seat belt laws work?

[zCommander]

1 minute ago, China said:

 

The same way that seat belt laws work?

 

I see people not wear one. The only thing you get is a ticket for $30. But for not wearing a mask the penalty needs to be say around $500. 

[techboy]

3 minutes ago, zskins said:

 

I know this. Not naive you know. Do you know how would a mask ordinance work for people who refuse to wear one based in their freedom and their constitutional rights? 

 

If you "know", why did you ask? 

 

Okay, you win. I removed "naive" from the list of potential explanations of your position, especially given your follow-up about "constitutional rights". 

 

I have to tell you, though, if "naive" triggered you you probably don't want to see the other options.

 

To answer your question though, there is no constitutional right to not wear a mask, any more than there is a constitutional right not to wear pants.

 

Ordinances work because most people follow the rules, and as Dr. Gottlieb mentioned, you don't need EVERYBODY to wear a mask... Just most people.

 

Further, you don't have to have the ones that don't comply arrested... It empowers businesses and others to deal with them appropriately. Businesses can be fined or shut down if THEY don't comply.

 

 

 

[The Evil Genius]

For sake of argument, the real discussion probably should be about can we force the cure on everyone (when it exists). 

 

Total herd immunity won't be achieved without it. 

 

Its also probably nearly impossible in the US, seeing how the anti-vax movement thrives.

Edited June 29, 2020 by The Evil Genius