Wildbunny Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, No Excuses said: They truly have such contempt for the intelligence of their viewers and voters. KellyAnne knows what the “19” refers to and yet... When I say some should be banned from doing TV Interviews... Spreading stupidty is the biggest crime of all... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Hersh said: There is also the issue of states not reporting all nursing home deaths. We know someone who works at the Masonic Home here in RVA. He has been told not disclose anything re: deaths at the facility but said that information is being reported to the CDC. 🙄 The deaths at the retirement home 2 miles from my house is now up to 45 as of April 14th. There were 32 deaths reported on April 7th. And now another retirement home less than a mile from Canterbury is reporting 25 cases of Covid-19 (up from it's first case on March 26th). 😨 https://apnews.com/884df0d688681382d6f548318e682f45 https://www.wric.com/health/coronavirus/beth-sholom-battling-25-cases-of-covid-19/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: flattening then curve by doing less tests.... From reading that article it's appears that the demand for testing based on the current criteria for receiving a test has diminished, which accounts for fewer tests being done. Sounds like capacity is closer to where it should be now (they say the backlog is clear and labs are now waiting to receive tests to analyze), so it's time to loosen the standards to allow more people to be tested. Things are moving in the right direction. Edited April 15, 2020 by kfrankie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 54 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: When I say some should be banned from doing TV Interviews... Spreading stupidty is the biggest crime of all... If I recall correctly there are a couple of places that refuse to have Kellyanne on anymore. I know Morning Joe is one of them. To be honest, I'd think that any government official or spokesperson who repeatedly tells blatant lies and spin about something this important should be barred from TV interviews. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, No Excuses said: They truly have such contempt for the intelligence of their viewers and voters. KellyAnne knows what the “19” refers to and yet... Are you sure of that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Oh she knows perfectly well what the 19 refers to. She's awful, not stupid. She knows that Trump's followers will believe anything he and his minions say. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Exactly, how many states still haven't put stay at home orders? South Dakota is spiking, the national overall daily dead may go down, but that's only because that state has a fraction of the population of some other one's do, like New York. That’s why it’s all about case rates if you want to have a handle on who’s being affected. On March 15, there were 99 cases of Covid 19 in Georgia. Today’s first report hasn’t been published yet, but there will be about 15K cases now. In one month. Most of these cases are in the Atlanta area. However, if you look at the case rates, the Atlanta area isn’t the most heavily affected. SW Georgia and a few other scattered mostly rural counties are the ones really getting hammered. For the Tя☭mp crowd and the Grand Oligarch’s Party at large, there is something to like in all this. As in other places, the death rate has by far been heaviest among African Americans and other POC. Make ‘Muricuh white great again! Edited April 15, 2020 by The Sisko 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Why does it make sense to look at case rates though? ten or so people having it in a county with a few hundred people isn’t worse than a several thousand people having it in a city with several hundred thousand people in it.... Edited April 15, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Gov. Gavin Newsom names six goals that must be met to lift California coronavirus order Gov. Gavin Newsom says California needs to increase testing, protect high-risk residents from infection and expand hospital capacity before the state can begin to modify the unprecedented stay-at-home order he imposed one month ago and gradually return to a sense of normalcy. "I want you to know it's not, it will not be, a permanent state," Newsom said of the restrictions put in place to fight the spread of coronavirus. "We recognize the consequences of the stay-at-home orders have a profound impact on the economy, your personal household budget, your personal prospects around your future." The new parameters Newsom outlined Tuesday suggested the state must meet a high bar before walking back the order. The administration highlighted six key indicators for altering his stay-home mandate, including the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases, prevent infection of high-risk people, prepare hospitals to handle surges, develop therapeutics to meet demand, ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 hours ago, PeterMP said: Oh that's absolutely true, BUT those places tend to have a lot less people than NYC in a lot less population density. And most of them are already doing significant social distancing and other things. They won't get it (very much very quickly) until/unless behavior changes (i.e. social distancing rules, etc. are changed). Im going to throw a corner case into your logic over this idea we’ve peaked. places like NOVA where there’s giant suburban sprawl and even little mini cities (and some of them are sizable, they’re just not DC or NY City like), it’s not quite clear whether we’ve peaked or not. And one area may be different than another despite only being a short distance away. there’s some anxiety building because some people think we’ve peaked (and therefore this is overblown) while others think we’re still waiting for the peak. ultimately it doesn’t matter because all that matters is doing what we can to not overload the hospitals, so people don’t die strictly because there wants staff and supplies to treat them, and working to get mass testing up and running so a clearer picture can be seen. But, there are still places with lots of people that are at risk of peaking and it being a bad one, even if behavior doesn’t change. I’m just pointing out there are corner cases with this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 French court orders Amazon to suspend non-essential sales PARIS – A French court has ordered Amazon to stop selling, receiving or delivering non-essential goods for the next month to protect its employees from the virus. Amazon protested Tuesday’s emergency ruling, while unions hailed it as a victory for workers' rights and public health. The ruling requires Amazon to evaluate health risks at all its facilities around France and negotiate new safety measures with worker representatives. Amazon must suspend its non-essential trade within 24 hours or face 1 million euros ($1.1 million) in fines per day. Sales of food, medicine and hygiene supplies are still allowed. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, China said: The new parameters Newsom outlined Tuesday suggested the state must meet a high bar before walking back the order. The administration highlighted six key indicators for altering his stay-home mandate, including the ability to closely monitor and track potential cases, prevent infection of high-risk people, prepare hospitals to handle surges, develop therapeutics to meet demand, ensure schools, businesses and child-care facilities can support social distancing, and develop guidelines for when to ask Californians to stay home again if necessary. Click on the link for the full article Those are some good guidelines. Too bad Trump and the GOP won't set any guidelines. They will just open the red states back up and won't even prepare for a second wave. As long as they get reelected is what matters to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: Those are some good guidelines. Too bad Trump and the GOP won't set any guidelines. They will just open the red states back up and won't even prepare for a second wave. As long as they get reelected is what matters to them. They're not going to set any guidelines because they don't want anything that can make them responsible if it goes poorly. It's insane to watch Trump pivot so much between wanting to look (but not act) like the guy who's in charge of everything and has the ultimate power, and then later just saying "well, it's up to the Governors, but I'll give them the permission to do whatever they want" so he can still hold on to the illusion of being all powerful but without shouldering any of the responsibility if things go sideways. What a guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, tshile said: Im going to throw a corner case into your logic over this idea we’ve peaked. places like NOVA where there’s giant suburban sprawl and even little mini cities (and some of them are sizable, they’re just not DC or NY City like), it’s not quite clear whether we’ve peaked or not. And one area may be different than another despite only being a short distance away. there’s some anxiety building because some people think we’ve peaked (and therefore this is overblown) while others think we’re still waiting for the peak. ultimately it doesn’t matter because all that matters is doing what we can to not overload the hospitals, so people don’t die strictly because there wants staff and supplies to treat them, and working to get mass testing up and running so a clearer picture can be seen. But, there are still places with lots of people that are at risk of peaking and it being a bad one, even if behavior doesn’t change. I’m just pointing out there are corner cases with this The hospital loads are certainly critical, as is trying to protect the places we warehouse old people ect. there definitely will be different peaks due to different areas differences, just as there are different needs for social distancing by area. what is needed for those living in densely populated areas relying on mass transit and foot traffic/work in congested areas is going to be different than rural. mass gatherings are certainly out going to be a long slog till metrics change with treatments ect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Why does it make sense to look at case rates though? ten or so people having it in a county with a few hundred people isn’t worse than a several thousand people having it in a city with several hundred thousand people in it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Catching covid-19 to own the libs Edited April 15, 2020 by Cooked Crack 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Nothing captures the current state of the Republican Party than a bull**** protest that blocks a freaking ambulance. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 i hope they all buy a farm, soon i've always been rural at heart 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) There are going to be a lot more protests as unemployment rises and people see the tragedy that is our social safety net programs and the systems that disburse it. I get why people are feeling frustrated enough to go out and protest. They're taking it out on the wrong people however. Edited April 15, 2020 by No Excuses 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 or insane asylum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 The ambulance must have been a paid crisis actor... 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Introduce those protesters to some tear gas. Edited April 15, 2020 by visionary 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, No Excuses said: Kellyanne Conway: "This is COVID-19, not COVID-1 folks, and so you would think the people in charge of the World Health Organization, facts and figures, would be on top of that." It's sad how we've all forgotten the pandemics of COVID 1-18. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: It's sad how we've all forgotten the pandemics of COVID 1-18. I don't remember Fast and Furii 1 through 14 either. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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