Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Boss_Hogg said: Don't get your hopes up about Haskins I told yall!! I f'n *throws something told yall he iant trying to develop him. This arguement that hes developing from the sidelines is not true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Relax folks, nothing to see here. Colts is our QB, and Case is just holding down the fort. And Haskins? He is dominating pretending like he is Daniel Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I told yall!! I f'n *throws something told yall he iant trying to develop him. This arguement that hes developing from the sidelines is not true!!! Would it be reckless of me to assume that Gruden is basically trying to get himself fired now, seeing as we now have this new development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I told yall!! I f'n *throws something told yall he iant trying to develop him. This arguement that hes developing from the sidelines is not true!!! I mean if hes not trying to develop him and hes not teaching him anything during practice.......then I sure as **** dont want Gruden to throw him out there with no offensive line. Kid will get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 He never wanted to draft him. And don't be surprised if McCoy is on the sideline and Haskins is inactive on Sunday against the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Would it be reckless of me to assume that Gruden is basically trying to get himself fired now, seeing as we now have this new development? No, it is not reckless to suggest that, I'm jus now questioning if Jay signed off on drafting Haskins. Ya know when he finally turned on Griffin I agreed with Jay because I didnt think Griffin was an NFL QB. But dude is still in the league and looked pretty decent in relief duty for the Ravens a couple weeks ago. It begs the question how hard Jay really tired to turn his career around versus making up his mind hed rather go with Cousins? I said before Jay was going to do what was best for Jay, not Haskins, now this proves it. Whether not hes trying to get fired is irrelevant, hes a direct threat to the future of the franchise now 4 minutes ago, Llevron said: I mean if hes not trying to develop him and hes not teaching him anything during practice.......then I sure as **** dont want Gruden to throw him out there with no offensive line. Kid will get killed. This is all the more reason to put him out there because the only advantage kd keeping him o the sideline is limiting his risk of injury. At this rate he wont be ready for 2020, either, that's how bad this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I told yall!! I f'n *throws something told yall he iant trying to develop him. This arguement that hes developing from the sidelines is not true!!! Can anyone provide context to this report? Whats the alternative to developing a QB while he’s the backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If andy reid were fired tomorrow and Gruden was hired to replace him, mahomes would probably get benched because his delivery is too unorthodox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I just dont see how throwing him out there without a plan, to play for a coach without a job, just to see what happens, is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: No, it is not reckless to suggest that, I'm jus now questioning if Jay signed off on drafting Haskins. Ya know when he finally turned on Griffin I agreed with Jay because I didnt think Griffin was an NFL QB. But dude is still in the league and looked pretty decent in relief duty for the Ravens a couple weeks ago. It begs the question how hard Jay really tired to turn his career around versus making up his mind hed rather go with Cousins? I said before Jay was going to do what was best for Jay, not Haskins, now this proves it. Whether not hes trying to get fired is irrelevant, hes a direct threat to the future of the franchise now Jay has always struck me as one of those "My system or the highway" kinda guys. And those guys no longer make it in todays NFL, which is largely about how quickly you can adjust/adapt and thrive. But yes, no Haskins in favor of Colt, whom you'd swear nearly lost his entire leg in a shark attack, just seems to bellow "**** you, fire me if you've got the guts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, wit33 said: Can anyone provide context to this report? Whats the alternative to developing a QB while he’s the backup? Basically that Haskins has only been doing work with the scout team. He's getting zero reps with the starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Boss_Hogg said: Basically that Haskins has only been doing work with the scout team. He's getting zero reps with the starters. Is the norm for a rookie QB to get reps with the starters while being the backup? I’ve always thought the starting QB gets all the reps, but could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, wit33 said: Is the norm for a rookie QB to get reps with the starters while being the backup? I’ve always thought the starting QB gets all the reps, but could be wrong. Not sure. But conventional wisdom would have Haskins taking some reps with the #1s just so he is ready in case Keenum has to leave the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Jay has always struck me as one of those "My system or the highway" kinda guys. And those guys no longer make it in todays NFL, which is largely about how quickly you can adjust/adapt and thrive. But yes, no Haskins in favor of Colt, whom you'd swear nearly lost his entire leg in a shark attack, just seems to bellow "**** you, fire me if you've got the guts." Agreed on him being hardheaded. At minimum hes daring them, very similar to how he delt with Griffin, I jus have a feeling they told him to win or hes gone so the develop Haskins or else talk is hallow to him. There is no indication Bruce told him to chew gum and walk at the same time or else, and that's why this is a systematic failure of epic proportions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said: Not sure. But conventional wisdom would have Haskins taking some reps with the #1s just so he is ready in case Keenum has to leave the game. The conventional wisdom is that the starting QB takes all the reps is what I’m saying. I’m just not 100% certain is all. I know you always here stories about the legends of the QB position never letting the backup have any reps, just not sure if that’s the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said: Not sure. But conventional wisdom would have Haskins taking some reps with the #1s just so he is ready in case Keenum has to leave the game. Bingo, I said this in preseason, hes not even trying in case Case gets hurt. This is NOT how you develop QBs, especially ones taken in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said: Not sure. But conventional wisdom would have Haskins taking some reps with the #1s just so he is ready in case Keenum has to leave the game. I'm not sure about that. I think the starter usually gets all of the first team reps in practice. They're installing the game plan and it doesn't necessarily make sense to split reps with your backup QB just in case he has to come in when you've got limited practice time. Someone has to run the scout team, and Haskins is the only other one to do it right now. There is no shame in running the scout team in practice. Back up QBs just have to be ready to go at any point. They have to learn the gameplan without the benefit of first team reps. It's a hard job, and it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Llevron said: I just dont see how throwing him out there without a plan, to play for a coach without a job, just to see what happens, is a good idea. I agree that throwing him out there without a plan is bad, I'm saying keeping on the bench without a plan is worse 4 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I'm not sure about that. I think the starter usually gets all of the first team reps in practice. They're installing the game plan and it doesn't necessarily make sense to split reps with your backup QB just in case he has to come in when you've got limited practice time. Someone has to run the scout team, and Haskins is the only other one to do it right now. There is no shame in running the scout team in practice. Back up QBs just have to be ready to go at any point. They have to learn the gameplan without the benefit of first team reps. It's a hard job, and it is what it is. You make a good point, but we arenr talking about making sure Peyton Mannings backup was ready incase he goes down. Haskins is expected to take the job from Case at some point, that us the goal, Case is not a franchise QB hes a place holder. At minimum he should feel some heat from Haskins in terms of reps because of that performance last night, no way they should Case is safe because Haskins isnt ready, Case doesnt deserve that and it isnt helping Haskins at all taking thsmis approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Haskins will be starting after the bye week against the Jets. Cant see Gruden being here at that stage. Maybe even sooner depending how the Miami game goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: I told yall!! I f'n *throws something told yall he iant trying to develop him. This arguement that hes developing from the sidelines is not true!!! Isn't that true for most backup QBs? He's getting a snap here and there. Haskin's job is to dominate on the scout team and work in the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Apparently, Haskins is only getting scout team reps in practice. Ummmmmmmm...that makes zero sense. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Leonard Washington said: Isn't that true for most backup QBs? He's getting a snap here and there. Haskin's job is to dominate on the scout team and work in the classroom. Meh. I agree that Case is the starting QB and should be getting the bulk of the reps. But Haskins should be taking some first team reps to prepare him. Even if not for this season, than for next. Pittsburgh, prior to Ben’s injury, was having Rudolph take all of the first team reps on a Wednesday. Granted, Ben has been in the Steelers system for a long time. But theres ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, wit33 said: Is the norm for a rookie QB to get reps with the starters while being the backup? I’ve always thought the starting QB gets all the reps, but could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, volsmet said: Any idea how many reps are in a practice? It would seem a team would have a plan versus random number of 5-10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Haskins has to be getting some first team reps. Right? We go back and forth on how to develop a QB. As a rookie game day backup facing one stout front after another, the chance he gets forced in is quite significant. I feel like Case was close last night. We are 3 weeks in and it seems many starting QBs are out injured. It would just seem negilgent to proclaim to be nurturing him in the safest environment possible yet forgo first team reps. If even to practices exchanges, practice cadence etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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