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Skinsinparadise

Skinsinparadise

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3 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said:

 

Age means nothing to me. I'm more afraid that keeping Callihan means more of the same. I really wonder how much the problems with the team are Bruce related. Why haven't we swptched from a 3-4? Why have we signed so many Bruce affliates? Why is he so involved in everything? We have stuff right now saying that Bruce is more likely to be reassigned than fired, and with keeping Coach Callihan, I wonder if keeping another Bruce Affiliate means we are going to keep hiring these Bruce guys. Why can't we hire a good DC? I wonder that more than the coach questions. I wanted Pettine, even more than I wanted Phillips. I wanted them both. But we got Barry and Manusky. 

 

Age isn't the deal breaker but its in the soup for me.   But I am with you on these points you make here.  

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2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Age isn't the deal breaker but its in the soup for me.   But I am with you on these points you make here.  

 

I think Coach Callahan is his own man.  Here is an article from October that I took with a grain of salt when I first read it because I didn't have much to judge by. Now, after watching and listening to him, I think the article was incisive.  It explains his slow-roll with Haskins and seeing the flaws everywhere.  Even if he is not selected as head coach, there has got to be a place for him on the staff.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/11/maddening-details-redskins-interim-coach-bill-callahans-beautiful-mind/

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, The Rook said:

 

I think Coach Callahan is his own man.  Here is an article from October that I took with a grain of salt when I first read it because I didn't have much to judge by. Now, after watching and listening to him, I think the article was incisive.  It explains his slow-roll with Haskins and seeing the flaws everywhere.  Even if he is not selected as head coach, there has got to be a place for him on the staff.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/11/maddening-details-redskins-interim-coach-bill-callahans-beautiful-mind/

 

 

 

I read the article then.  I actually am the opposite on it.  I took it seriously then, I take it more with a grain of salt now at least as part of the theme of the article.  I don't mean it from the stand point of disliking Callahan.  I mentioned things I do like.  But the beautiful mind-detail stuff seems way over played to me now versus then considering he doesn't seem to be an analytics guys as to play calling or seem to have even a basic clue as to how to manage a clock.   But I do agree about the old school-discipline stuff that indeed looks to be true.

 

He's a great o line coach.  I don't think he's a great or even good HC.  But you could do worse.  It's rare for interim coaches to stick around as an assistant the year after.  So I doubt that happens with Callahan.  I think his contract is up.  There was some who have said he wants to coach with his son who is in Cincy.  Will see.

 

As for him being his own man.  Maybe.  It's just every beat guy who covers the team have said Callahan is super tight with Bruce. 

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14 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I read the article then.  I actually am the opposite on it.  I took it seriously then, I take it more with a grain of salt now at least as part of the theme of the article.  I don't mean it from the stand point of disliking Callahan.  I mentioned things I do like.  But the beautiful mind-detail stuff seems way over played to me now versus then considering he doesn't seem to be an analytics guys as to play calling or seem to have even a basic clue as to how to manage a clock.   But I do agree about the old school-discipline stuff that indeed looks to be true.

 

He's a great o line coach.  I don't think he's a great or even good HC.  But you could do worse.  It's rare for interim coaches to stick around as an assistant the year after.  So I doubt that happens with Callahan.  I think his contract is up.  There was some who have said he wants to coach with his son who is in Cincy.  Will see.

 

As for him being his own man.  Maybe.  It's just every beat guy who covers the team have said Callahan is super tight with Bruce. 

 

You have to admit, the first possession, scripted drive was pretty good.

 

I didn't think he was calling the plays after the scripted ones - my bad.

 

I've gotten to the point where I don't think any darn NFL coach knows time management (watched Zimmer and Belichek screw the pooch on TM this weekend)- I know the Redskins haven't had one since ... I can't remember.  Oh yeah Gibbs I.

 

As for HC, I'm not sure.  The savant ability of obsessing over the small details can create paralysis by analysis or Vince Lombardi.  Agree about the interim coach history, but one of the things I wouldn't be comfortable would be bringing in his son as OC. Still think he would be a valuable asset to lose.

 

As for super tight with Satan, we are not getting that "read" down here in Va Beach. We catch the Skins network shows and of course Bubba's news links.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, The Rook said:

 

I didn't think he was calling the plays after the scripted ones - my bad.

 

 

I don't think Callahan was calling any plays.  But it's not hard to pick up he's not an analytics guy from one of his interviews and what he has stressed when he has spoken about offenses.

 

10 hours ago, The Rook said:

 

I've gotten to the point where I don't think any darn NFL coach knows time management (watched Zimmer and Belichek screw the pooch on TM this weekend)- I know the Redskins haven't had one since ... I can't remember.  Oh yeah Gibbs I.

 

 

Some do.  But I am not giving anyone props for being detail driven when they are clueless about managing the clock.  It's third grade math.  So i am not buying the beautiful mind -- detail oriented stuff.  You can win or lose 2 games give or take by having a handle on that stuff.  It's an important thing for a supposed "detail" oriented dude to have a clue about.   Ditto not knowing he even has analytics guys on staff.   Hence that's what I mean about that part being hyperbole IMO in the article.  I do buy though the discipline-hard work stuff and I like that aspect of him as a coach.  I actually like that part a lot.

 

10 hours ago, The Rook said:

 

As for HC, I'm not sure.  The savant ability of obsessing over the small details can create paralysis by analysis or Vince Lombardi. 

 

I am not worried about that part of it because I've seen enough that I don't believe it.  But that's fine I am more of a believer in a big picture kind of guy anyway. 

 

10 hours ago, The Rook said:

 

 

As for super tight with Satan, we are not getting that "read" down here in Va Beach. We catch the Skins network shows and of course Bubba's news links.

 

 

I catch the Redskins shows, too.  Direct TV shows most of them.  I subscribe to the Post, etc.  But that's not where they talk about it.  It's all over talk radio and the dudes who cover the team like Keim, Finlay, etc have said it a million times.  It's pretty out there.  It was out there before he even became interim head coach, too. 

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I thin the Kaepernick work-out is a ridiculous thing to beat Callahan with personally. He was strung up there to the FO's detriment. 

 

That was just an example of the complete dysfunction within this organisation with nobody talking to one another in different departments. 

 

It also seems pretty naive to me to think anyone coaching in today's NFL wouldn't t be taking on board analytical data in every aspect. 

 

I just put that down to an agenda certain sections of the local beat corp have who continually play to the galleries. 

 

Hail. 

 

 

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What Callahan has achieved is that he has proven what a poor HC Jay Gruden was. Good offensive minded coach, simply out of his depth at HC for several years. Its mind blowing how that was tolerated for so long.

 

Callahan has brought a different work ethic by all accounts. Dare say what he has done is lift us more towards the expected level. Nothing groundbreaking, more a slight on what poor standards we've had before. Progress nonetheless.

 

We need to really move forward though.  Callahan doesn't bring that. He brings staying medium back to the table. Don't see much point in that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 12/25/2019 at 5:31 PM, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

What Callahan has achieved is that he has proven what a poor HC Jay Gruden was. Good offensive minded coach, simply out of his depth at HC for several years. Its mind blowing how that was tolerated for so long.

 

Callahan has brought a different work ethic by all accounts. Dare say what he has done is lift us more towards the expected level. Nothing groundbreaking, more a slight on what poor standards we've had before. Progress nonetheless.

 

We need to really move forward though.  Callahan doesn't bring that. He brings staying medium back to the table. Don't see much point in that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If KOC stays on at OC i think we can be forward thinking enough, but i would imagine Koc would be gone within 2 seasons.  His offense with a limited playbook and rookies at QB, WR1 WR2 WR3, RG, and basically at LG, has produced well over the last 3 weeks.  

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Well it won't be Callaghan. Maybe he was just being respectful, but he could have said, they're doing good things in Dallas and moved on to the next questions. 

However....

I have never seen an opposing coach kiss so much Jerry ass in my life. If you ask me, he's probably bucking for that head coach position because he know's the Redskins have already found theirs. 

 

Check out this open ass crack kissing:

https://www.redskins.com/video/bill-callahan-on-the-cowboys-they-are-a-quality-football-team

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30 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Keim on his podcast today mentioned some interest in Marvin Lewis and Lewis is interested back. If so I gather Lewis isn’t getting much interest elsewhere. To me it’s yawn.

Sounds like a lot of this Urban Meyer stuff is hot air right now.  Does it seem that way to you too, SIP?

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49 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Sounds like a lot of this Urban Meyer stuff is hot air right now.  Does it seem that way to you too, SIP?

 

Don't know.  If i had to take a guess, I'd bet there is something to the smoke somehow like perhaps they chased him or still are chasing him?  There are multiple variables cooking with Urban so am guessing they might have kicked the tires on it at the least. I doubt they already agreed to a deal like today's rumor but who knows?  All we can do is guess about other people's guesses.   

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If this is true I'll be hoping for a big serving of crow coming my way. I feel like personality wise he might have some things in common with Pete Carroll, but unlike Pete Carroll he has no NFL experience. The strongest rumors I'm aware of other than him are Eric Bienemy and Marvin Lewis. Of the three, I suppose Meyer would be the best hire, but this still feels like something a franchise that is ran more like a corporation than a professional sports team would do. 

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Sheehan this morning after fishing around some.  Callahan isn't going to be the HC.  Manusky gone, too.   He said that Marvin Lewis is a dude that they are hot on, there is a chance its Urban Meyer as coach or something else.  He'd be slightly surprised if it ends up Meyer though.  He wouldn't be surprised (ironically that's been my joke for months about Bruce holding the reigns and doubling down on Tampa connections) if Raheem Morris gets an interview. 

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2019-season-nfl-black-monday-rumors-news-head-coach-gm-fired/

Washington Redskins

The Redskins will begin their process in earnest following Week 17’s matchup against the New York Giants. There have been whispers regarding the status of President Bruce Allen, but no decision has been made. According to Allbright, absolutely no decision on the future head coach has been made at this point. Allbright also reports that Eric Bieniemy appears to be one of the early frontrunners on the Redskins list of head coach candidates.

 

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I'm done watching games if Bruce is still around and they hire someone like Lewis or Morris. What in the world has Lewis ever done to warrant another HC job, going 8-8 every year won't get you into the playoffs. 

 

I'll be convinced with a hire like that that Dan is an utter and complete moron that is completely dilussional and out of touch with reality. Only explanation for anyone that would think that would be the way to fix this and that the fans would be happy.

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Standig just on, he said what type of coach they get depends on how they push Bruce as part of the package or not.  Stnadig said if he had to bet right now, he'd bet Bruce is back.

 

If they want Bruce back then guys like Marvin Lewis, Raheem Morris, etc would be the tier they'd choose from.  If Bruce is removed they can perhaps aim higher.  

 

He'd think their one shot at an Urban Meyer type is to give them all the power.

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Marvin Lewis shouldn’t dismiss idea of a clock management specialist

 

Marvin Lewis doesn’t think he needs a clock management specialist, but there is evidence to the contrary.

 

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/9/30/17916526/marvin-lewis-shouldnt-dismiss-idea-of-a-clock-management-specialist

 

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/12/12/16765402/marvin-lewis-not-my-responsibility-bengals-motivated-nfl-football-2017

But don’t tell Lewis, the head coach, that it’s his job to keep his team motivated. When asked the Bengals missing the playoffs for the second year in a row, Lewis made one of the dumbest comments in his 15 years as head coach of the Bengals, and that’s saying something.

“Well, you don’t want this. I don’t think anybody does,” Lewis said. “These guys have a lot to play for, and it’s not my responsibility to get them — as I said — to turn up the music. (We’ve got to) figure out a way to get momentum going and put good football plays together. If we got young guys in there, they’re going to have to grow up in a hurry, because we are going to play three good football teams.”

 

 

Edit:  I don't think Lewis is a bad coach. He's middling IMO.   And at 61 on his 2nd stint, how hungry could he be?  He's lately a package deal with Hugh Jackson who I don't think highly of as a play caller.  He's professional.  But not known to be a motivator or good at clock management or an outside the box thinker. 

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