Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Who exactly is connecting the dots between the medical staff misdiagnosing cancer and Bruce being disgusting? Bruce is not a doctor, thank god. Bruce was disgusting and a laughing stock well before he mishandled this situation. There is absolutely nothing that could come out good or bad that will ever change the tune on who he is. It would be easier and quicker for me to show you the people on my twitter timeline and even in this thread who were not doing that lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 My feelings: Even if Trent is wildly exaggerating the seriousness of this scare AND no one from the team visited him in the hospital (minor) AND the medical staff totally missed this for 6 years, I still do not care. The main point thing is that TW was not going to play for this team and he had his reasons, false/true/overblown, whatever. When camp started and TW was a no show, Bruce should have been working the phones and taking the best offer he could get, especially once we were 2 or 3 games in. I know, you hate to cave to a demand to be traded over money, but in this case, TW had plenty of cash to bide his time and sit on his ass and wait Bruce out. This is not like someone playing on a rookie contract in year 2. If Bruce somehow manages to Forrest Gump his way into tolling the contract and getting good value for TW in the off season, he can claim victory and we'll be stuck with him forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 46 minutes ago, carex said: the biggest issue between may be Trent has overblown the thing in his own mind, since he was scared for his life. If he did actually blow off further appointments, well why shouldn't it still be on the team. They wouldn't let him blow of a consultation about a knee injury would they? In the end, the team is a business. Trent's knee being healthy affects his play in the immediate future. The team knows that, and most of all, Trent knows that. No healthy knee = no contract. A weird lump on your head that's been there for years isn't an immediate problem, so neither took the effort to push it. Oddly enough, the team still put in more effort than Trent: The team scheduled the appointments. When Trent doesn't even put the effort in that the team did, Trent has no excuses. 4 minutes ago, sempre_victrix said: My feelings: Even if Trent is wildly exaggerating the seriousness of this scare AND no one from the team visited him in the hospital (minor) AND the medical staff totally missed this for 6 years, I still do not care. The main point thing is that TW was not going to play for this team and he had his reasons, false/true/overblown, whatever, When camp started and TW was a no show, Bruce should have been working the phones and taking the best offer he could get, especially once we were 2 or 3 games in. I know, you hate to cave to a demand to be traded over money, but in this case, TW had plenty of cash to bide his time and sit on his ass and wait Bruce out. This is not like someone playing on a rookie contract in year 2. If somehow Bruce manages to Forrest Gump his way into tolling the contract and getting good value for TW in the off season, he can claim victory and we'll be stuck with him forever. I agree with this above all else. The accusations Trent made should and need to be investigated. But whether it's true or not, Trent made it absolutely clear that he will never play a down for the team. Proving that Trent was right or wrong doesn't matter, he still won't play here anyway, and we could have traded him to teams that very much wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Unbias said: I agree and what he said really bodes well for the Redskins. It does leave me with some questions: I'm not sure anything bodes well for the Redskins right now. The issue is that what they see as a win everyone else sees as an embarrassment. 1 hour ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: The mere fact Bruce called in the league to sanction a review on this immediately after Trent opened his mouth for the first time should be kind of telling... They set him up and why in the world is Trent out there saying that stuff. Who is there to watch Trent's back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Regardless of what happened, Trent should have approached this a bit differently. Seems like there are gonna be more takes like this on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: I'm not sure anything bodes well for the Redskins right now. The issue is that what they see as a win everyone else sees as an embarrassment. They set him up and why in the world is Trent out there saying that stuff. Who is there to watch Trent's back? Who set who up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 When you are quoting Jason Whitlock, you've lost the argument. I honestly don't know what the argument is, but you've lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: I'm not sure anything bodes well for the Redskins right now. The issue is that what they see as a win everyone else sees as an embarrassment. They set him up and why in the world is Trent out there saying that stuff. Who is there to watch Trent's back? They didn't set him up...right now, it looks like they just left the door closed lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, sempre_victrix said: Who set who up? Trent set himself up by talking too much. When you have a grievance you better get your story straight before you give 18 minute press conferences. As for the team didn't they file the investigation request right after Trent gave his presser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: When you are quoting Jason Whitlock, you've lost the argument. I honestly don't know what the argument is, but you've lost. Jason Whitlock is a lottery ticket. Once in his life, he's going get the right number. Today, it's looking a lot like this was that one time in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, justice98 said: Czaban just said Keim told him he heard back in August that the team set up "several" appointments that Trent blew off. So Keim basically backs up Casserly. Im looking forward to the league report on this. That should shed some clarity on this whole thing. But man, I really wish they traded Trent early on in this thing and avoided all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, KDawg said: Im looking forward to the league report on this. That should shed some clarity on this whole thing. But man, I really wish they traded Trent early on in this thing and avoided all of this. I wish Trent had kept the appointments the team made for him so that he wouldn't have wanted to hold out to begin with. Or at least if he did hold out it would be obvious that it was about money and not "almost dying' due to team neglect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, KDawg said: Im looking forward to the league report on this. That should shed some clarity on this whole thing. But man, I really wish they traded Trent early on in this thing and avoided all of this. someone would have asked at his new team, we wouldn't have Redskins staffers watching it and the story would have been out longer before we responded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, carex said: someone would have asked at his new team, we wouldn't have Redskins staffers watching it and the story would have been out longer before we responded If you say so. 10 minutes ago, Califan007 said: I wish Trent had kept the appointments the team made for him so that he wouldn't have wanted to hold out to begin with. Or at least if he did hold out it would be obvious that it was about money and not "almost dying' due to team neglect. That’s certainly a take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogdirty Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 49 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: Trent set himself up by talking too much. When you have a grievance you better get your story straight before you give 18 minute press conferences. As for the team didn't they file the investigation request right after Trent gave his presser? They released the statement after Trent talked but not sure if the investigation was already going on before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Califan007 said: Regardless of what happened, Trent should have approached this a bit differently. Seems like there are gonna be more takes like this on the horizon. In most cases I agree. But I would never use Jason Whitlock as the basis for my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vanguard said: In most cases I agree. But I would never use Jason Whitlock as the basis for my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I refuse to parse Trent's answers like he's some kind of attorney. What I got out of that video was that he's in bad shape emotionally, his head's not in the game, and he shouldn't be anywhere near a football field right now, for the Redskins or anyone else. I found his demeanor to be somewhat disturbing, to be quite honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogdirty Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, goskins10 said: Wait, the last three pages is of you deciding that Trent was intimidated into not getting a second opinion, That teams do that all the time And that it's not his fault... Now, when there is something that directly contradicts that, it's let's wait for the facts? 🙂 This is like 90% of people on twitter right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, profusion said: What I got out of that video was that he's in bad shape emotionally, his head's not in the game, and he shouldn't be anywhere near a football field right now, for the Redskins or anyone else. I found his demeanor to be somewhat disturbing, to be quite honest. Brought to you by Dan Snyder's Does this happen anywhere else? Williams is pretty much the face of the franchise. The last one left after a lot of you guys portrayed him as a guy who "Didn't want to be here". The question should be does anyone want to be here? Sherff is next up to bat. Let's see how much buffoonery is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, profusion said: I refuse to parse Trent's answers like he's some kind of attorney. Is psychoanalyzing him based on a video on the innnernets any better, though? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Califan007 said: I wish Trent had kept the appointments the team made for him so that he wouldn't have wanted to hold out to begin with. I thought you were letting this play out? No doubt Keim and Casserly were told the version of events where the team urged him to see a specialist several times over the years and he blew them off. No doubt if that’s actually true, it makes Trent look like a giant ass. That’s honestly the only piece of the investigation that’s of any importance. But it’s still just something floated out there until it isn’t. It’s just very hard to believe because Trent has to know they would both put this out there and how badly it would work against him. Perhaps it’s true and he just went rogue yesterday, because I can’t imagine his network would advise him to provide the color he did yesterday knowing the team had that going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Wait, Whitlock has hair these days? That can't be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: I thought you were letting this play out? No doubt Keim and Casserly were told the version of events where the team urged him to see a specialist several times over the years and he blew them off. No doubt if that’s actually true, it makes Trent look like a giant ass. That’s honestly the only piece of the investigation that’s of any importance. But it’s still just something floated out there until it isn’t. It’s just very hard to believe because Trent has to know they would both put this out there and how badly it would work against him. Perhaps it’s true and he just went rogue yesterday, because I can’t imagine his network would advise him to provide the color he did yesterday knowing the team had that going for them. While that remains true (the part in bold lol), the point I was wanting to convey was that this whole shebang didn't start when Bruce decided not to trade Trent in the summer, and it wouldn't have ended there, either. So lemme rephrase it a bit more accurately: I wish Trent had done more in terms of follow-up on health--including keeping appointments the team made for him, if true. Because if what he's saying now (or yesterday) is also true about not trusting the team anymore, doing so probably wouldn't have eroded the trust to this degree and holding out probably wouldn't have crossed his mind. Naaah, I like the first way I wrote it better lol 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariusVT Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I bet if we restructure him, add a year or two plus 5-10mil of Danny boys money guaranteed this whole thing magically is dropped. It's not going to work out well for either party, in the grand scheme of things the money won't hurt the team and if any of the Trent blew off appointments is true that won't help his reputation either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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