Bozo the kKklown Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Obama not calling it what it is was a massive mistake. I always felt that was a critical mistake by him that doesn’t get acknowledged enough. You were the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Its not Obama's fault the country was influenced by some dumb internet memes and fake news on social media. (actual fake news from fictional people, describing fictional events) He did kick out the Russian diplomats and enact some sanctions that Trump didnt enforce. Remember Trump's the one who's perpetuated the Russia story from the start turning Putin into a GOP hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 7 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: 12 years in office, one term. That’s what we need. A lot happens in 12 years, look at the position move on MFA in less the three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 8 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: 我 Release the transcript/summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Man, they serious. They are about to jus do everything in the open because they think their side will defend them no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Chinese response: NSFW https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1179894542461526018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 So he spoke with Trump then said everything is good and also no paper trails, please. Sounds very legal and very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StillUnknown Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Man, they serious. They are about to jus do everything in the open because they think their side will defend them no matter what. *they know their side will defend them no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Bet stupid ****ing republicans still think the treasonous mother****er didn't collude with the Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Chachie said: I'm confused. So calling on foreign assistance in our elections is only illegal if you promise or withhold favors??? I guess I can start robbing banks now as long as I use a bullhorn to notify everyone while I'm at it. Granted, I was pointing a gun at the teller when I told him to give me the money. But I never actually spoke the words "I will kill you if you don't". Look, this transcript that I wrote myself does not have me speaking those exact words. Therefore prosecuting me for bank bank robbery is clearly an attack on the rule of law. One which also justifies me telling the witnesses from the bank not to say anything about it, if they know what's good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Springfield said: Jesus. I think that Obama should have come out and said the Russians were using cyberterrorism and and propaganda to get Trump elected. Might have saved us all from this bull****. I disagree. Not with the sentiment, but with how you seem to think it would have played out. there’s an element to the current situation that a percentage of people see this as a witch hunt. but I don’t think that percentage is 100% of republicans. I don’t know what it is but it isn’t 100%. Let’s call it X%. i believe If this, whatever this is, started with obama doing that... we’d have Y% of Republicans firmly believing it’s all a witch hunt. And I believe Y would be much bigger than X. And I think Y would be pretty close to 100% ( but not 100%) I think Obama staying out of it has made the issue easier to deal with and gives us a better chance that it’ll be resolved in a good way (impeachment, losing reelection, whatever) just a feeling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Bet stupid ****ing republicans still think the treasonous mother****er didn't collude with the Russians. Yeah so, been seeing comments for weeks like this and it sort of cracks me up. Not picking on you, just the post that was there when I had time to say something. there was a breaking point, probably happened a minimum of 5 months ago but we could argue over when it doesn’t really matter the point is it was a while ago, and after that breaking point anyone that was going to change their minds on Trump or the situation... had changed their minds. Anyone who hadn’t.... wasn’t going to. the people that defended trump 3 weeks ago, are going to defend him 6 months from now, and nothing can happen between now and then to change that. The people who still worked with/for him 3 weeks ago, will do so 6 months from now. whatever remains of the trump supporters, is here to stay. Like racists or sexists they will never change their thinking or their ways (except to try to mask them, maybe). They’re here to stay. They will die off one day, but otherwise there here to stay and vote. And be whatever it is they are. so maybe stop being surprised that people still support him after whatever dumb **** he says tomorrow. Or next week. Or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Oh the exception to the above are the large amounts of current supporters and enablers that will say they’ve changed their mind once their political calculus tells them their career is over if they can’t convince us they changed their minds but we’ll know them as the frauds they are. They don’t count as it pertains to my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, tshile said: I disagree. Not with the sentiment, but with how you seem to think it would have played out. there’s an element to the current situation that a percentage of people see this as a witch hunt. but I don’t think that percentage is 100% of republicans. I don’t know what it is but it isn’t 100%. Let’s call it X%. i believe If this, whatever this is, started with obama doing that... we’d have Y% of Republicans firmly believing it’s all a witch hunt. And I believe Y would be much bigger than X. And I think Y would be pretty close to 100% ( but not 100%) I think Obama staying out of it has made the issue easier to deal with and gives us a better chance that it’ll be resolved in a good way (impeachment, losing reelection, whatever) just a feeling though. I do agree with you, and @Renegade7. I think that Obama not claiming the Russian angle was probably the correct move at the time. Im just really frustrated with this whole situation because Democrats are seriously lacking in the ability to combat Trump and conservatives barrages of falsehoods that plague our society. I wish that we could have had this guy, Obama, come out and say that Trump was a dirty mother****er and our enemies are helping him and make him instantly unelectable... but that’s probably a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 What we're seeing now is the real life version of when Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it. Trump has always believed he was above the law. The idiots are trying their best to convince him he's right which of course will mean he will go further and further. Every time he steps beyond what used to be the line he doesn't stop to think he just prepares to take another step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm ready for the remaining living Presdients to do an ad together against Trump like Kathy Griffin suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-impeachment-polling_n_5d965fc8e4b02911e11801db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CousinsCowgirl84 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: A lot happens in 12 years, look at the position move on MFA in less the three can still move on. Maybe it makes impeaching more common. If the president looses the house and senate he is easily impeached if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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