Kenny Mayne: Dear Fellow White People: Or should I have said ‘Caucasian’?

[Berggy9598]

On 6/28/2018 at 10:04 AM, Zguy28 said:

I wasn't trying to associate anything with Marxism, capitalism or otherwise. Just searching for an answer to it in the real world. Are economic conditions largely created by race still today or is that mostly a thing of the past that still has large effect? How do we break the cycle? How do we craft a solution that the white majority approves of?

I can only take examples from the cities I've lived in, so I'd say not so much in Kansas City compared to Los Angeles. I'm not sure there's a city in this country more egregious in this regard than Los Angeles, and in particular West Los Angeles. I'd actually put West L.A up against any big city in the country in terms of being racist, but they do a really good job hiding it behind political correctness. Awful place. 

[mcsluggo]

On 6/27/2018 at 1:20 PM, BenningRoadSkin said:

What exactly did I say was racist?

 

White people have done and continue to do monstrous things in this country and white people arent saying much about it.

 

If pointing out that white people have done horrible things make me racist, then sure. ..... <more> ........

 

 

 

just observing that the act of listing out <<infractions by individuals>> of a race group, and then castigating the entire race group over those <<infractions by individuals>> is a pretty basic definition of racism.

 

...and its not a very complicated formula.     

 

[Destino]

On 6/29/2018 at 2:36 PM, NoCalMike said:

Prejudice & Racism are two different things.

 

Everyone has prejudices. Those are completely natural.  You see a chick with pink hair and covered in tattoos you tend to think.......whatever.  Then you get to know her via conversation and you realized you were wrong.  That is an example of prejudice.

 

Racism is a much more complex thing and has much more to it then simply "I hate "insert race here" "  although it has largely been reduced to that on cable news outlets. 

 

There are also human tribal instincts to consider.  We’re born with these instincts but we aren’t taught to recognize them and process them.  Dealing with leftover primal instincts evolved for an entirely different set of circumstances can be tricky.  Especially when you consider that people so often prefer to feel correct, or right, for thinking and feeling as they do.  We’re hard wired to feel more comfortable with people like us, but we have no clear ways of defining what “like us” means to our cave man brain.  The definition also changes constantly based on context.  

 

On a typical US street white and black Americans might not feel that instinctual sense of belonging upon seeing each other.  Would that initial impression or feeling the same if they encounter each other in China?  This interests me because I can’t help but wonder what role that initial gut instinct plays in shaping behavior over a lifetime. 

 

[mcsluggo]

 

 

42 minutes ago, Destino said:

 

There are also human tribal instincts to consider.  We’re born with these instincts but we aren’t taught to recognize them and process them.  Dealing with leftover primal instincts evolved for an entirely different set of circumstances can be tricky.  Especially when you consider that people so often prefer to feel correct, or right, for thinking and feeling as they do.  We’re hard wired to feel more comfortable with people like us, but we have no clear ways of defining what “like us” means to our cave man brain.  The definition also changes constantly based on context.  

 

On a typical US street white and black Americans might not feel that instinctual sense of belonging upon seeing each other.  Would that initial impression or feeling the same if they encounter each other in China?  This interests me because I can’t help but wonder what role that initial gut instinct plays in shaping behavior over a lifetime. 

 

 

its true... !

 

I lived in beijing for 5 months... and when i saw a black guy on the street my first instinctive thought was "yay! another honkey!"     

 

and, i'm serious here.... 

[mcsluggo]

On 6/27/2018 at 2:17 PM, BenningRoadSkin said:

This article was not intended to solve racism. It was intended to take the steps to solve racism.   

 

 

 

this article wasn't intending to make any progress towards solving racism.... it was intending to lob a molitov ****tail and then shrug that "how can you blame ME" shrug at the flames.   

[TradeTheBeal!]

Ron Paul brought his extra-courageous, patriotic A game to Twitter today.

 

[mcsluggo]

 

[Bozo the kKklown]

2 hours ago, mcsluggo said:

 

 

just observing that the act of listing out <<infractions by individuals>> of a race group, and then castigating the entire race group over those <<infractions by individuals>> is a pretty basic definition of racism.

 

...and its not a very complicated formula.     

 

That wasn’t what was done in the article.

 

look, most white people who voted in the election, voted for Trump. You can argue “economic anxiety” or whatever but Trump he told us and everyone around that he doesn’t care for large groups of people and wanted to create policies that harmed them. So far he has tried to do that. If you are offended that this may include your “not racist” friends and family who you will vouch for at all times, then you are who this article is talking about. That was the point of the article.

 

The worst thing a lot of white people do is call minorities racist for pointing out the terrible things white people do and continue to do, or collective white inaction over horrible things taking place.

 

 

 

 

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

14 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

That wasn’t what was done in the article.

 

look, most white people who voted in the election, voted for Trump. You can argue “economic anxiety” or whatever but Trump he told us and everyone around that he doesn’t care for large groups of people and wanted to create policies that harmed them. So far he has tried to do that. If you are offended that this may include your “not racist” friends and family who you will vouch for at all times, then you are who this article is talking about. That was the point of the article.

 

The worst thing a lot of white people do is call minorities racist for pointing out the terrible things white people do and continue to do, or collective white inaction over horrible things taking place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That may be what YOU thought the point of the article was, but when he did his little mic drop at the end with:

 

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I thought white people were evil.

I was right.

 

 

Well, I thought that was pretty ****ty.  I guess you didn't, but it's cool.  He can say white people are evil.  Awesome.  Makes me want to fight for his cause.  I'll be right over, Michael Harriot, I can't wait to hear more of your enlightened woke thoughts on how my race is is evil.  

 

My other gripe with the article is that it didn't offer any real solutions.  There's no real call to action.  There's a result he wants which is very obvious but I don't believe anything else he says inspires any change.  I mean, what's the solution, vote Trump out?  Is that the magic wand that'll alleviate all of this?  Certainly a step in the right direction but he doesn't offer any substance other than "wypipo need to stop being quiet and shout down racism at every given opportunity".  Well, no ****.  

 

 

[Bozo the kKklown]

12 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

That may be what YOU thought the point of the article was, but when he did his little mic drop at the end with:

 

 

Well, I thought that was pretty ****ty.  I guess you didn't, but it's cool.  He can say white people are evil.  Awesome.  Makes me want to fight for his cause.  I'll be right over, Michael Harriot, I can't wait to hear more of your enlightened woke thoughts on how my race is is evil.  

 

My other gripe with the article is that it didn't offer any real solutions.  There's no real call to action.  There's a result he wants which is very obvious but I don't believe anything else he says inspires any change.  I mean, what's the solution, vote Trump out?  Is that the magic wand that'll alleviate all of this?  Certainly a step in the right direction but he doesn't offer any substance other than "wypipo need to stop being quiet and shout down racism at every given opportunity".  Well, no ****.  

 

 

Yeah, he said that, plus a couple hundred other words but you focused on that because that was your “out.”

 

Here is the other thing too, you aren’t interested in any solutions. I have read your posts on here, and anything that inconveniences the status quo on creating equity causes you discomfort.

 

Solutions have been offered for many years and the reaction is either “no,” “you are racist” “socialism” and anything else to not address the issues. So don’t pretend to care for solutions when this country won’t even apologize for slavery and internment camps and are actively ok with unfair housing practices. 

[NoCalMike]

"Economic anxiety" can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, but Trump seemed to specifically make it about "the brown people coming to take 'rrr jobs away"  He purposely weaponized people's fear & anxiety and made sure to point it at a group in even more vulnerable positions than themselves. He chose the easy targets to kick, and decided kicking wasn't enough.

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

13 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Yeah, he said that, plus a couple hundred other words but you focused on that because that was your “out.”

That's ridiculous. It's an incredibly inflammatory statement purposely used as his "big line" to end the article because he wanted to hammer it home.

 

52 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

The worst thing a lot of white people do is call minorities racist for pointing out the terrible things white people do and continue to do, or collective white inaction over horrible things taking place.

Oh really? So white people aren't allowed to say someone is racist when they say obviously racist things?

 

"White people are cowards."

"I thought white people were evil. I was right."

 

That's racist. It's actually really, really, really racist. And your comment, "The worst thing a lot of white people do is call minorities racist for pointing out the terrible things white people do"... that's pretty damn racist too. You would be through the ****ing roof if someone said stuff like that about black people on here and any one of us would be permanently banned if we posted an article with the headline "Black People are Cowards" that wrapped up, "I thought black people were evil. I was right."

[Spaceman Spiff]

17 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Yeah, he said that, plus a couple hundred other words but you focused on that because that was your “out.”

 

Here is the other thing too, you aren’t interested in any solutions. I have read your posts on here, and anything that inconveniences the status quo on creating equity causes you discomfort.

 

Solutions have been offered for many years and the reaction is either “no,” “you are racist” “socialism” and anything else to not address the issues. So don’t pretend to care for solutions when this country won’t even apologize for slavery and internment camps and are actively ok with unfair housing practices. 

 

Benning, if that's my out, accusing people of not reading articles and/or not understanding what they're about is certainly your go-to hackneyed response when someone says something you don't like.

 

I'm not interested in any solutions?  Sure, I'm not.  I only work to find people of all races jobs each day.  When, at my old job, I'd get a hiring manager who said "don't send any minorities over" I'd politely inform them that I'd send whoever is most qualified for the position whether they like it or not...I mean, I guess that's not looking for a solution or inconveniencing the status quo.  If you've really read my posts on here, you'd no doubt have read the ones that say I try to live my life by the golden rule, do unto others, etc.   But I don't need to justify myself to you.

 

@Springfield was right, I'm not interested in sticking up for someone as self righteous as you.  

[GhostofSparta]

Not really sure where else to put this, but it kinda fits with the discussion here. It happened about 5 minutes from where I grew up. **** this clown calling himself a "Man of God."

 

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/archdiocese-of-washington-apologizes-after-maryland-family-kicked-out-of-funeral

 

 

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Archdiocese of Washington apologizes after Maryland family kicked out of funeral

 

CHARLOTTE HALL, Md. - The Archdiocese of Washington has issued an apology after a family was kicked out of a funeral in Maryland.

Video captured the confrontation as it played out at Saint Mary's Catholic Church in Charlotte Hall on Tuesday.

 

Hundreds of people showed up to remember Agnes Hicks, but it ended abruptly when someone knocked over and damaged the church's sacred golden cup, also known as a chalice.

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Her family said the cup was knocked over when someone went in for a hug and accidentally bumped into the chalice near the altar.

“That's when all hell broke loose. He literally got on the mic and said, ‘there will be no funeral, there will be no mass, no repass, everyone get the hell out of my church,’" Shanice Chisely, the daughter of Agnes Hick recalled. “He disrespected our family, he disrespected my mother. He called my mother 'a thing.' He said, 'get this thing out of my church! Everyone get the hell out of my church!’ It was very sad. I’ve never seen anything like that before.”

 

 

[Destino]

1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Yeah, he said that, plus a couple hundred other words but you focused on that because that was your “out.”

Yeah stop focusing on the extremely racist stuff, what do you think about his arguments otherwise.... says every trump supporter ever.

[Bozo the kKklown]

1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

@Springfield was right, I'm not interested in sticking up for someone as self righteous as you

You never really were, so thanks.

 

 

And you can save the “I have black friends” line for someone else.

33 minutes ago, Destino said:

Yeah stop focusing on the extremely racist stuff, what do you think about his arguments otherwise.... says every trump supporter ever.

Miss me with all of this because the article was asking for white people to do something. To stand up against inequality and to speak out and stop being inactive.

 

You focus on the evil line because you didn’t want to take in the rest of what he said.

 

Find me the time when before Trump said “all  Mexicans are rapists” where he is begging for Mexican people to show humanity and be merciful and be good people and stop being monsters to each other. Find when Trump has ever made statements like that, instead of wack jokes.

[TheGreatBuzz]

1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

@Springfield was right, I'm not interested in sticking up for someone as self righteous as you.  

Talking to @BenningRoadSkin is about as useful as talking to a Trump supporter.  I wouldn't even bother.  They may be on the opposite ends of the spectrum as to what color they blame for the problems but they are both on the same level of willingness to see other peoples views. 

 

Racism isn't what is wrong with America right now, it's closed-mindedness (which racism falls under).  And he is a guilty as those people carrying tiki torches down main street.  Too unwilling to accept that ________ color people aren't the main problem.

[Gibbit]

but in fairness, I don't think Trump is racist...I just don't think hes a very good politician. I mean wasn't he a Democrat? and he just switched to republican to run for president? I mean seriously...dudes a joke, but at the same time opposite of trump is Bernie which would be just as bad in different ways

We need boring politicians from both sides to keep thing toward the middle of the spectrum. Hillary would have been boring and that's the best way to go honestly and I lean more conservative in my views usually

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[Bozo the kKklown]

1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

That's racist. It's actually really, really, really racist. And your comment,

The man writes an article begging for white people to stop being inactive on this and strive for equality and that’s what you focused on. He said it because indifference and silence has lead to this moment. 

 

2 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

And your comment, "The worst thing a lot of white people do is call minorities racist for pointing out the terrible things white people do"... that's pretty damn racist too. You would be through the ****ing roof if someone said stuff like that about black people on here and any one of us would be permanently banned if we posted an article with the headline "Black People are Cowards" that wrapped up, "I thought black people were evil. I was right."

 

Silence is violence. That’s the point of the damn article. 

 

Also pointing out the atrocities and historical inaction of white People in the country is nit racist. We have seen it lol.

 

and if someone said black people are cowards, I would like to read their reasoning before I say anything. I am not reactionary.

3 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Racism isn't what is wrong with America right now,

Very Trumpian (not surprised tho)

[TheGreatBuzz]

4 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Very Trumpian (not surprised tho)

 

Too scared to include the rest of the sentence where I said "(which racism falls under)" because it wouldn't fit your narrative?  Rather not include the context?

 

Very Fox-Newsy (not surprised tho)

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

32 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

The man writes an article begging for white people to stop being inactive on this and strive for equality and that’s what you focused on.

Yeah, bull****.

 

“White people are cowards. Stop being inactive. I’ve always thought you were evil and I was right.”

 

Really reads like someone who actually wants to affect change. That’s exactly how I talk to people when I’m trying to persuade them to take action on my behalf.

[Spaceman Spiff]

18 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

You never really were, so thanks.

 

Miss me with all of this because the article was asking for white people to do something. To stand up against inequality and to speak out and stop being inactive.

 

You focus on the evil line because you didn’t want to take in the rest of what he said.

 

 

 

He was asking white people to do something?  To stand up against inequality and to speak out and stop being inactive by calling them evil?  That's awesome.  Man, I love it when my friends insult me up and down and ask me to do favors for them.  Works like a charm.  

 

 

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

31 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Also pointing out the atrocities and historical inaction of white People in the country is nit racist. We have seen it lol.

It is when you draw a big circle around 200,000,000 people of the same skin color and say, “Here’s some bad things that white people have done. I’m going to assign it to all of you.”

 

That’s EXACTLY what racism is. 

 

“Black prople are evil. Its not racist to point out how much crime black people have committed. We have seen it lol.”

 

Yeah... it actually is. It’s as racist as it gets. Again, you would be through the ****ing roof if someone said the same stuff that you say but for some reason, you’re free to rattle off endless racist nonsense til your ass turns blue and then anytime someone calls you out, “Im allowed to say whatever I want about white people. Calling minorities racist when we say racist things is another terrible thing that white people do.”

 

Your bull**** hypocrisy is absolutely comical.

[thegreaterbuzzette]

Can we stop the single label stereotyping please? That's how we got here. "You are a (enter negative as adjective here), because you are (insert single label here)."

 

One is not poor, a rapist, or bad solely because their skin color, place of birth, sexuality.

 

[Gibbit]

honestly the best action against racism nowadays seems to be to social media/hack their lives upside down. White people do..do the internet