MartinC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: You have a RB that just came back from a torn ACL that has barely tested his leg and then you throw him out against one of the physical defenses of our division that may or may not have been having knee issues before the game. I feel like this shouldn’t be that difficult to explain I'm sorry you are going to have to humor me and explain further how a surgically repaired ACL in his left knee results in a higher risk of a ligament injury in his right knee. You know it's not the same knee that's been hurt? If there is a report there was an issue with his right knee before the game that would be different. But I have not seen any such report? Just now, ExoDus84 said: Perhaps you got Guice confused with Jon Allen, who does have an MCL sprain. That being said, I really hope it's not a torn ligament for Guice. That would be some Redskins-level bad luck. No I was looking for an update on Guice - googled Guice and injury and up popped the MCL report. I did not click the link ... fatal mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Apparently Gruden just said there’s still a chance guice could still play vs Dallas.....uh....what?? Also that there’s also a chance both Peterson AND guice could be active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: He should be ready by the time AP retires, and we realize that Guice is damaged goods. As for a recurrence, perhaps Love is not pregenetically disposed to repeated ACL injuries. AP sure wasn't. So there's definitely hope. So Guice has had one major injury and so has Love. Yet you believe Love will be good, but Guice won't? 🙄 1 minute ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Apparently Gruden just said there’s still a chance guice could still play vs Dallas.....uh....what?? Also that there’s also a chance both Peterson AND guice could be active Well if that's true sounds like media and skins fans are blowing this out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Apparently Gruden just said there’s still a chance guice could still play vs Dallas.....uh....what?? Also that there’s also a chance both Peterson AND guice could be active Did Lomdardi, Jr. also mention, by chance, that CT would be inactive so that Smallwood could keep doin' his thing and lightin' up the league on ST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Sweet fancy Moses, am I done with Norval Gruden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichmondRedskin88 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, MartinC said: I'm sorry you are going to have to humor me and explain further how a surgically repaired ACL in his left knee results in a higher risk of a ligament injury in his right knee. You know it's not the same knee that's been hurt? If there is a report there was an issue with his right knee before the game that would be different. But I have not seen any such report? No I was looking for an update on Guice - googled Guice and injury and up popped the MCL report. I did not click the link ... fatal mistake. -Guice was coming off a year long ACL injury. He hadn’t played a true NFL game. Then you throw a player in the fire who is still adjusting to the NFL speed while returning from a injury. He wasn’t cleared until the end of August. Never mind you have analysts saying that team sources inside were stating Guice was having knee issues before the game. So team sources know but our staff don’t? Then we are truly incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 So Gruden all but confirmed that he can play AP and Guice. The excuse for this week was special teams. He claims we needed the extra LB (Vallejo) and Smallwood. Sure Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Guice had 10 carries, that's a light work load. I heard the whole team sources thing, it was Russell saying he heard from someone before the game that Guice wasn't 100% but he wasn't sure if that meant like 98% or whatever, he didn't hear the severity of it and it wasn't hammed up that much to him so he didn't know what to make of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 What in sam hell is going on??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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desertbeagle85 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 So all the reports saying he could miss awhile are pretty much false it sounds like. Call me surprised the media getting something wrong. Hardly sounds like anything serious. I would sit him this week and let AP take the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: -Guice was coming off a year long ACL injury. To his left knee. This injury is to his right knee. 7 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: Never mind you have analysts saying that team sources inside were stating Guice was having knee issues before the game. This is I have not seen. Are there any links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, desertbeagle85 said: So all the reports saying he could miss awhile are pretty much false it sounds like. Call me surprised the media getting something wrong. Hardly sounds like anything serious. I would sit him this week and let AP take the load. Sprained knee, and he could come back this week, doesn't sound that serious. If that's true its much ado about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, MartinC said: To his left knee. This injury is to his right knee. He hyper-extended his right knee at LSU. Injury history in general has shown that compensating for an injury is conducive to leading to other injuries. I too, hope for the best but, Redskins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, MartinC said: I'm sorry you are going to have to humor me and explain further how a surgically repaired ACL in his left knee results in a higher risk of a ligament injury in his right knee. You know it's not the same knee that's been hurt? If there is a report there was an issue with his right knee before the game that would be different. But I have not seen any such report? No I was looking for an update on Guice - googled Guice and injury and up popped the MCL report. I did not click the link ... fatal mistake. Im no doctor but as someone who has had soft tissue injury's in the past i can tell you first hand there is a whole mental aspect to where you favor one side after injury and unconsciously start putting more weight or ever so slightly altering your run/walk style to favor the non injured side which in turn puts more stress on the healthy body part. I'm sorry but everything about AP's benching yesterday was idiotic. There was NO REASON to have Guice shoulder this load alone not only because of his health but it would have given us a much better chance to win the game yesterday. Just a clown team making clown moves, It never ends its so exhausting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catatonic Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This couldn't be any more Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, JoeJacobyHOForRIOT said: Im no doctor but as someone who has had soft tissue injury's in the past i can tell you first hand there is a whole mental aspect to where you favor one side after injury and unconsciously start putting more weight or ever so slightly altering your run/walk style to favor the non injured side which in turn puts more stress on the healthy body part. I'm sorry but everything about AP's benching yesterday was idiotic. There was NO REASON to have Guice shoulder this load alone not only because of his health but it would have given us a much better chance to win the game yesterday. Just a clown team making clown moves, It never ends its so exhausting I agree about the benching. And as far as the injury. Favoring one side is absolutely true. I recently injured my back at work, and even at times where I didn’t think I was favoring one side. The healthy side would start to ache. I’ve been dealing with this back injury for over a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, stoshuaj said: He hyper-extended his right knee at LSU. Injury history in general has shown that compensating for an injury is conducive to leading to other injuries. I too, hope for the best but, Redskins.... And again this is a testament to just how incompetent our medical staff and trainers are/have been. This is year after year after year. When is Snyder going to make some changes. THIS IS CRAZY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, stoshuaj said: Injury history in general has shown that compensating for an injury is conducive to leading to other injuries. Muscular injuries sure. But a ligament injury - nope. Only way you cause a ligament injury is hyperextension caused by an impact slip or awkward landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Catatonic said: This couldn't be any more Redskins. Literally took opening weekend for the **** show to begin. Lol, thats gotta be a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, JoeJacobyHOForRIOT said: Im no doctor but as someone who has had soft tissue injury's in the past i can tell you first hand there is a whole mental aspect to where you favor one side after injury and unconsciously start putting more weight or ever so slightly altering your run/walk style to favor the non injured side which in turn puts more stress on the healthy body part. I'm not an MD either but I;ve played sports all my life and have sons who do as well. So I have been around this stuff. You are right its no uncommon for unrelated muscle injuries to occur because of biomechanical changes - the favoring you talk about. But if this is a ligament injury in his other knee I don't see how it can be related to his previous injury. It's much much more likely to fall into the '**** happens' category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I take PFF with a grain of salt but it's interesting nonetheless. Craig Hoffman has been contending on twitter that Guice did well considering how poor the run blocking was, Jay complementing Guice, too. I didn't take it that seriously albeit I am a big Guice fan. But looking at his PFF score, wow, a 72. They try to make judgments in part based on context. That was one of the highest graded players yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vanguard said: I agree about the benching. And as far as the injury. Favoring one side is absolutely true. I recently injured my back at work, and even at times where I didn’t think I was favoring one side. The healthy side would start to ache. I’ve been dealing with this back injury for over a month. That's muscular reaction. Its not spinal or - in the case of Guice - a ligament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, MartinC said: Muscular injuries sure. But a ligament injury - nope. Only way you cause a ligament injury is hyperextension caused by an impact slip or awkward landing. I’m only parroting what both players (specifically BMitch and Doc) and Drs have stated. Im sure there is more than anecdotal evidence available but, I’m tired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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