NickyJ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, skinny21 said: Ok, I already responded with my take, but to play devil’s advocate, Kerrigan only has 2 active players ahead of him in career sacks drafted in 2011 or later. JJ Watt and Von Miller. Both drafted the same year Kerrigan was of course - 2011. Same amount of forced fumbles as Miller, 7 more than Watt. More INTs/INTs returned for TDs than both. Obviously there’s more to the picture, but interesting nonetheless. All very good points. He's not flashy, but he's not a JAG like a lot of people seem to be implying. 34 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: I view the ROH as our team version of the HOF. I just don’t think he’s been very memorable or even tops at his position for this era. He’s not dynamic or special and he’s not a game changer. Add to that the team hasn’t been good either. Trent would get a ROH considerstion for me because of his level of play against his contemporaries whereas I don’t think Kerrigan stacks up as well in that regard either To me, the Ring of Honor is for honoring good and upstanding Redskins who were devoted to the team. They don't need to be flashy; Kerrigan is the opposite of flashy, but he's been a mainstay of the defense since he was drafted. I don't recall him ever missing a game due to injury, and he's consistently been one of our best players on the entire team since he got here. People can say what they want about how he isn't J.J. Watt or Von Miller, but he'd be a starter on any team in the league, and I'm sure he could rack up flashier stats with a more consistent defense. In the meantime, he's stayed with us every step of the way. He's exactly who I'd put in the Ring of Honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I didnt say he had to be flashy. A player should be great tho to get into the ROH and I’ve never considered Kerrigan great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Hold up. For all the people saying Kerrigan shouldn’t even be in consideration for the Ring of Fame. Give me a break, Vince Lombardi is there and he only coached one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 11:42 PM, 757SeanTaylor21 said: Not even sure he makes it to ring of honor as i domt think anybody would be like...man only if we had that Ryan kerrigan! Good player, but not stand out.. I'm not singeling you out on this, and don't think he's HOF either, but I'd just like to point out that the Redskins have players/personell that are in the HOF that aren't in the Ring of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c slag Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I personally think that he is a class act maybe not a hall of famer but certainly someone I would be proud to wear the jersey of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveWarrior Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Really good player, but no HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 hours ago, Renegade7 said: I'm not singeling you out on this, and don't think he's HOF either, but I'd just like to point out that the Redskins have players/personell that are in the HOF that aren't in the Ring of Fame. And there are quite a few Redskins players on the Ring of Fame that are not in HOF. Monte Coleman, Doug Williams, Brian Mitchell. Monte Coleman is the epitome of above average. Doug Williams had one good season - the rest of his career was pretty average - although not always his fault. Ryan Kerrigan is exactly the kind of player that should be in the ROF - but I do not see him as a HOFer at this point. He could get there with a few great seasons and the team making a deep PO run or two. But right now he is not a HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshSkinsFan Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 ROF yes, HOF no. I think Kerrigan is going to retire a Redskin in 3 or 4 years time by which he almost certainly will be over the 100 sacks mark. For almost his entire career he has been the only impact player we have on the dline and as such is the only one other teams scheme for which makes his sacks, ints, forced fumbles numbers even more impressive. He is also a model citizen and as reliable as a Volvo. My favorite Redskin of the last decade and it is not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 First and foremost, Ryan Kerrigan is a stud and a class act. He certainly will be up for Ring of Fame, his career isn't over yet to determine his HOF worthiness, but there's just too much competition and rings take huge order over many other stats. If Kerrigan played another 5 years and averaged 10 sacks a year, he'd find himself sitting in the top 20 sackers of all time. If he grabbed 3 more Pro Bowls, sacked Carson Wentz in the NFC Championship in 2020 and knocked the ball loose for a scoop and score, and then did it the following game in the Superbowl to earn the ring, he could see himself in the HoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 9:27 AM, goskins10 said: And there are quite a few Redskins players on the Ring of Fame that are not in HOF. Monte Coleman, Doug Williams, Brian Mitchell. Monte Coleman is the epitome of above average. Doug Williams had one good season - the rest of his career was pretty average - although not always his fault. Not only that but he's been a solid, consistent player during a "dark age" for the team. I mentioned Gene Brito earlier and he's a perfect example of that from the first "dark age" - one of the few players that actually played consistently well on those 'Skins teams in the 1950s. Coleman, Williams, and Mitchell (at least at the start of his career) were on winning teams filled with all-pros and hall of famers. Guys like Brito and Eddie LeBaron were bright spots on otherwise dreadful teams in the 1950s. I think Kerrigan (as well as London Fletcher) deserve the same honor. As it stands now, Sean Taylor is the only player from the current, extended streak of 'Skins futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 All time great Redskin? Yes. All time great NFL DE/OLB? Not even close. He's playing in the same era as guys like Watt, Miller, Mack, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Too early to tell, but he’s been very solid and reliable. If he plays long enough and approaches 100-130 sacks as an OLBer, he’d have to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Maybe with a few more pick 6's. He'll make the HOF when an opposing coach tells his QB that if he dares throw towards Kerrigan's side he'll pull him. ;-> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 With a Super Bowl ring he is in the conversation, without it then sadly no. He definitely has some plays that we all remember for as much as some make him sound average, those memorable plays make a difference in the voters minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 1:20 PM, -JB- said: Hold up. For all the people saying Kerrigan shouldn’t even be in consideration for the Ring of Fame. Give me a break, Vince Lombardi is there and he only coached one season. Are the people saying Kerrigan shouldn’t be in the ROH also signing off on every other member in there? I wouldn’t have Lombardi in there either 11 hours ago, Rocky52Mc said: If he grabbed 3 more Pro Bowls, sacked Carson Wentz in the NFC Championship in 2020 and knocked the ball loose for a scoop and score, and then did it the following game in the Superbowl to earn the ring, he could see himself in the HoF. So, that’s a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Are the people saying Kerrigan shouldn’t be in the ROH also signing off on every other member in there? I wouldn’t have Lombardi in there either So, that’s a no. He’s already 3rd on the Skins all-time sacks list. 24 behind Manley who’s #1. You telling me he ends up with the most sacks in Redskins history and he doesn’t belong in the ring of fame? Pfft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Borderline ROF, but I think this team will be successful for most of the next four years so there's hope for him to get some more playoffs wins and stats. They either trade him this draft or next off season, or he stays through his tenure as the lunch-pail performer. I doubt the return is great, and having a player start and finish their career with a franchise is something that owners can treat as a sign of good leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Without getting too far off topic: Stephen Davis should also be in consideration for the ROH. If Snyder didn't go full Snyder early on and actually made good front office hires, they could have built a truly scary offense around Stephen Davis. Did you know he averaged 100 yards/game in 1999? I sure didn't. Averaged 4.1 yards/game throughout his career. 4 seasons with 1,000+ yards rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Remember when we projected Portis to be the all-time rushing leader in one of these threads and then he had, like, 500 more yards and never played again? Projecting 3 and 4 years out on 30 year old football players is a really bad idea. Also, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: Remember when we projected Portis to be the all-time rushing leader in one of these threads and then he had, like, 500 more yards and never played again? Projecting 3 and 4 years out on 30 year old football players is a really bad idea. Also, no. "No" for Portis, Davis, or Kerrigan (or all three?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebluefood said: "No" for Portis, Davis, or Kerrigan (or all three?) None of them are Hall of Famers. All are Ring of Famers. 2 will be on the 81st anniversary or whatever team that Danny will monetize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: None of them are Hall of Famers. All are Ring of Famers. 2 will be on the 81st anniversary or whatever team that Danny will monetize. Gotcha. Agreed on all counts. I think it's especially important to recognize those stand-out players from the lean years since they probably won't even flash the hardware. None of them even got to play in an NFC Championship Game (Kerrigan still in the running but I don't like his chances right now). They're not going to Canton but they still deserve recognition for busting their asses on mediocre ball teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I am also on the side of love me some Kerrigan. But no, he is not a HOF. Will need to do much much more for that to happen. Great player, but HOF though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If there was a Hall of Very Good, Kerrigan would be in there. However, I don't feel is the game-changing player that you *should* be to make it in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: If there was a Hall of Very Good, Ban yourself, terrible sports talk radio host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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