Thinking Skins Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just a point of fact, the bucs average giving up 6 catches and 81 yards to the TE, so maybe we see something nice from Davis and Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thinking Skins said: I wonder what's up with Jehu Chesson. He's in the roster, probably as the 5th wr above Quick, plays teams. But does he have any ability? He's 6'3 and runs a 4. 4 40, former 4th rounder, that should count for something. I know he had a drop early this season, but with all the injuries I'd think he'd be getting more looks We'll probably see more of him against the Bucs. What do we have now, just 4 healthy WR's ? If I'm not mistaken, all we have healthy on the 53 right now, are Doctson Harris Quick Chesson If a receiver gets hurt mid-game against Tampa, we might even see Bibbs line up wide out (of course, Reed and Davis, too) Edited November 10, 2018 by Malapropismic Depository Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 @Malapropismic Depositorydon't forget about floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: Its gonna be a great game, how will Tampa handle our explosive offense, I bet they haven't slept in days worrying about the likes of Josh Doctson, Jordan Reed, Mo Harris, and Brian Quick. But then again, those guys may very well look explosive against their defense that has given up: 40 21 30 48 34 23 37 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spearfeather said: But then again, those guys may very well look explosive against their defense that has given up: 40 21 30 48 34 23 37 42 I gotta see it before I can believe it Atlanta has given up the 4th most points per game and they killed us. Indy has given up the 8th most points per game and they killed us. New Orleans has given up the 6th most points per game and they killed us. Edited November 10, 2018 by JSSkinz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Have we, officially, though ? Technically both of those guys are still on IR. The talk is that those 2 will be the ones who come off IR, but I don't think it's set in stone yet. I dont have confirmation... just what ive read. Youre likely right that the moves have not technically taken place so nothing is done... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 It's time to give up on Crowder..He is always hurt or fumbling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) I guess its safe to say Crowder has a high ankle sprain. or has something worse than a sprain. What is the other most common injury to the ankle after a sprain anyways. Something lligament. But he does seem to be making progress. I assume he and Quinn will both be ready the same week because it'd be so us. I would love to see a max speed package tried. Sure, we cannot compile one to proper standards any time soon, so a waterbuggery offensive set will have to suffice, and would seem to have a place in the modern game. Losing PRich dampers my new scheme aspirations, but still - I want to see Quinn Crowder and Thompson on the field together before the seasons over. Jay has to do something different to try to open up our offense. He has to scheme it up. Our personnel is what it is at this point including Alex. I wonder how the passing game would look if Alex and WRs played 2 full preseason games. The only thing that will cure it now are reps. Jay has probably played all his cards at this point. Edited November 11, 2018 by RandyHolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, RandyHolt said: I guess its safe to say Crowder has a high ankle sprain. or has something worse than a sprain. What is the other most common injury to the ankle after a sprain anyways. Something lligament. But he does seem to be making progress. I assume he and Quinn will both be ready the same week because it'd be so us. I would love to see a max speed package tried. Sure, we cannot compile one to proper standards any time soon, so a waterbuggery offensive set will have to suffice, and would seem to have a place in the modern game. Losing PRich dampers my new scheme aspirations, but still - I want to see Quinn Crowder and Thompson on the field together before the seasons over. Jay has to do something different to try to open up our offense. He has to scheme it up. Our personnel is what it is at this point including Alex. I wonder how the passing game would look if Alex and WRs played 2 full preseason games. The only thing that will cure it now are reps. Jay has probably played all his cards at this point. It probably does not look much better. I would hope his accuracy would be up, but other than that, Alex is actually on pace to have his 2nd best year in terms of yards, and right in his average while with the Chiefs with just about everything else. This is Alex Smith. This is what was sold as a "upgrade". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Morneblade said: It probably does not look much better. I would hope his accuracy would be up, but other than that, Alex is actually on pace to have his 2nd best year in terms of yards, and right in his average while with the Chiefs with just about everything else. This is Alex Smith. This is what was sold as a "upgrade". For a second I thought you were attempting to bash Alex, then I remembered your logic guarantees us 10 wins and a playoff birth. You are alright in my book. Look at you being all positive and stuff. Edited November 11, 2018 by wit33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Morneblade said: It probably does not look much better. I would hope his accuracy would be up, but other than that, Alex is actually on pace to have his 2nd best year in terms of yards, and right in his average while with the Chiefs with just about everything else. This is Alex Smith. This is what was sold as a "upgrade". True, but there are still a lot of yards and points being left on the field. Gruden has an offense that can move the ball and we keep seeing mistakes. Case in point, Doctson has two critical drops early last week. There were a bunch of holding penalties, and Smith missed some guys. I'm not saying he should average 400 yds per week, but it's not far reaching to say that if he makes 2 more of those a game, it's two more TDs and suddenly the games are nowhere near as close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I feel like Maurice Harris is gonna have a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Thinking Skins said: True, but there are still a lot of yards and points being left on the field. Gruden has an offense that can move the ball and we keep seeing mistakes. Case in point, Doctson has two critical drops early last week. There were a bunch of holding penalties, and Smith missed some guys. I'm not saying he should average 400 yds per week, but it's not far reaching to say that if he makes 2 more of those a game, it's two more TDs and suddenly the games are nowhere near as close. Well, Doctson has been dropping balls since he got here. So there is that. But the fact of the matter is as much as you want him to, Alex is not all of a sudden get much better. First, he's not the kind of QB that can elevate the play of those around him. He's really not playing "bad" football for Alex Smith. It's not his best, but it's far from his worst. If he had healthy elite playmakers everywhere, he'd look more like he did last year, but he doesn't. Are there guys open that is isn't throwing the ball to? Yes, but I don't think that's going to improve. It's the way he plays QB. So yards are always going to be left on the field because Alex is not going to take chances. I think Gruden got sold that Alex was going to be a better version of what he did in 17', when that was actually a anomaly, and he's going to be more like the 16' version. I also think he's a bad fit for Gruden's system. and know Gruden is trying to figure out how to get more out of Smith. And I think to do so, he's going to have to go really heavy with RPO stuff, but I don't think the rest of the team is really set up well for that. Edited November 11, 2018 by Morneblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 23 hours ago, OVCChairman said: He's not eligible to return from IR, we've already used our 2 on Marshall and Quinn. Why Byron Marshall - Kapri Bibbs has shown just as much of not more. Short sighted move imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I think we're seeing Mo Harris is probably the second best WR on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Mo Harris needs more targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Skins WR core needs to be retooled in the offseason. Richardson produced but he has a history of injuries and he's just not suited to catching balls where he's going to be hit hard. Mo Harris may turn into a move-the-chains slot receiver. I'm hoping Quinn can become your shifty slot WR in the second half. If not, then there's really not much left on the roster. I don't think the Skins can pay Crowder given his injury history so he's probably go elsewhere and produce big time when he's not the only offensive weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dckey Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 This team needs speed bad, when 4.6 40 Mo Harris is running your jet sweeps, we are in bad shape. Not one wr playinh can run a sub 4.5 that is absolutely terrible here are our wr 40 times Richardson 4.4 Crowder 4.46 Floyd 4.47 before getting injured Doctson 4.5 Harris 4.55 Quinn 4.55 Quick 4.56 Sim 4.59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Monk Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, dckey said: This team needs speed bad, when 4.6 40 Mo Harris is running your jet sweeps, we are in bad shape. Not one wr playinh can run a sub 4.5 that is absolutely terrible here are our wr 40 times Richardson 4.4 Crowder 4.46 Floyd 4.47 before getting injured Doctson 4.5 Harris 4.55 Quinn 4.55 Quick 4.56 Sim 4.59 I think they will try hard to select a WR with their first draft pick. They probably NEED to go with a cheaper rookie, since Paul is costing so much. They will enjoy the cap relief of dumping Reed and maybe VD as well, but then they open up great TE need too. Other than rush LB, the defense looks pretty solid next year as is.. so I wouldn't be surprised or unhappy with lots of O-help in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Our weapons remind me of a quote from (I think) Deion back in the mcnabb season when he said that McNabb could go through airport security without getting stopped with his weapons. Or something like that. It was funny. This team needs to put a serious emphasis on finding weapons in the off season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 How fast was the WR core in Cincy? I figure Green is fast but maybe I'm wrong. I'll say that today is the first time all year I've felt like we could be a wr led offense, not TE first, nor RBs first, but looking at Harris and Doctson first. They had 9 receptions on 9 targets with almost 100 yards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dckey Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: How fast was the WR core in Cincy? I figure Green is fast but maybe I'm wrong. I'll say that today is the first time all year I've felt like we could be a wr led offense, not TE first, nor RBs first, but looking at Harris and Doctson first. They had 9 receptions on 9 targets with almost 100 yards Fastest time ever John Ross 4.22 AJ Green 4.48 Tyler Boyd 4.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, dckey said: This team needs speed bad, when 4.6 40 Mo Harris is running your jet sweeps, we are in bad shape. Not one wr playinh can run a sub 4.5 that is absolutely terrible here are our wr 40 times Richardson 4.4 Crowder 4.46 Floyd 4.47 before getting injured Doctson 4.5 Harris 4.55 Quinn 4.55 Quick 4.56 Sim 4.59 Crowder ran a 4.56 at the combine. Edited November 12, 2018 by mistertim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dckey Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: Crowder ran a 4.56 at the combine. Ran it better at his pro day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, dckey said: Ran it better at his pro day Oh ok, didn't realize you were going by his pro day numbers. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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