Gamebreaker Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, dyst said: I think the similarities are that you questioned fans "opinions" on this issue regarding Cravens but took offense when another poster questioned fans "opinions" regarding CTE. Point is, people have opinions. It's going to vary. Nah, they still aren't similar. Because I never said,"those speaking ill of Cravens are sad and pathetic, AND shouldn't even call yourselves football fans." I just said those comments were sad and pathetic. Maybe the butthurt section should stop reading any further into it. Just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Master Blaster said: Rumblings of mental health issues. If so, my best wishes for him, whether that means never playing again, missing this year, or missing 4 games. Some of you should really be ashamed at what you say about a fellow human being. What does "mental health issues" mean to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Master Blaster said: Rumblings of mental health issues. If so, my best wishes for him, whether that means never playing again, missing this year, or missing 4 games. Some of you should really be ashamed at what you say about a fellow human being. Can we blame the team for selecting him and then continuously convincing him to play? Like others have said, if it's the injuries then just retire. If it's a mental issue, then just retire and that goes for the team...stop convincing him to come back 2 minutes ago, Gamebreaker said: Nah, they still aren't similar. Because I never said,"those speaking ill of Cravens are sad and pathetic, AND shouldn't even call yourselves football fans." I just said those comments were sad and pathetic. Maybe the butthurt section should stop reading any further into it. Just a suggestion. Yep sounds the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Master Blaster said: Rumblings of mental health issues. If so, my best wishes for him, whether that means never playing again, missing this year, or missing 4 games. Some of you should really be ashamed at what you say about a fellow human being. A lot of mental health issues manifest in the 20's. People who have had success in their careers for several years will sometimes manifest various mental illnesses that completely ruin their lives. It's sad, and definitely requires compassion and patience. I don't know if that's what is happening here, but we can't rule it out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gamebreaker said: Nah, they still aren't similar. Because I never said,"those speaking ill of Cravens are sad and pathetic, AND shouldn't even call yourselves football fans." I just said those comments were sad and pathetic. He never said anyone should stop calling themselves football fans, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, dyst said: Ouch, that 2016 draft is worse than 2015. Makes me scared for 2017 draft. How much credit/blame does Scot get for the 2017 draft ? Did he have about a 50% influence on it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Team should be dealing with this. Nobody should've texted Schefter to put this out for public consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, dyst said: Can we blame the team for selecting him and then continuously convincing him to play? Like others have said, if it's the injuries then just retire. If it's a mental issue, then just retire and that goes for the team...stop convincing him to come back You can't count on him. Talk him into retirement. Retain his rights and if some team wants to take a gamble on him at some point try and get a 7th in return. That's the best option at this point. I don't want him on the team regardless of the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Malapropismic Depository said: How much credit/blame does Scot get for the 2017 draft ? Did he have about a 50% influence on it ? According to Scot himself he had like a 95% influence on it. Which, before now, was reassuring to some fans lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Lumber Co. Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: How much credit/blame does Scot get for the 2017 draft ? Did he have about a 50% influence on it ? All but Josh Holsey were Scot McCloughan picks evidently. Also came out and said he wouldnt have re signed Chris Baker and set the Free Agency target list prior to his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Could be something as simple as a 22 year old needs some therapy. Talk it through with a professional and work some things out. Mental health and pro football are two things you dont normally hear together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, Master Blaster said: You hang out with Sua a lot? Nah I just read and listen to things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readonly Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 If he is such a putty wink that he wants to quick after one year then he never should have signed up for the draft and signed a multi-year contract. Quitting under these circumstances is NOT just a personal decision, it affects the entire team and the fan base. If he is medically cleared to play and he just quits, then he is a massive putty wink. And those that would rush to his defense are putty winks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The team should not be more concerned for its investment then what the player wants. Let him retire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: If this had come to light 2 days ago we could have signed TJ Ward. The team already knew, they obviously weren't interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SWFLSkins Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, dyst said: Can we blame the team for selecting him and then continuously convincing him to play? Yup. Can't hate on the guy for retiring, I don't like the timing of his announcement, that said He wants to quit, let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, ConnSKINS26 said: The team already knew, they obviously weren't interested According to the Mike Jones article he texted the DBs last night and told Bruce this morning. The team didn't see it coming apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, readonly said: If he is such a putty wink that he wants to quick after one year then he never should have signed up for the draft and signed a multi-year contract. Quitting under these circumstances is NOT just a personal decision, it affects the entire team and the fan base. If he is medically cleared to play and he just quits, then he is a massive putty wink. And those that would rush to his defense are putty winks too. Got another contender for ya @Spaceman Spiff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, skinzplay said: Team should be dealing with this. Nobody should've texted Schefter to put this out for public consumption. This is clearly a team-sanctioned leak. He just went on the non-football absence list or whatever...there were going to be questions, and this FO never does anything with class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taylorcooley1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I can't hold a job down because of my mental illness..it's a sad case...best of wishes to cravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, justice98 said: Could be something as simple as a 22 year old needs some therapy. Talk it through with a professional and work some things out. Mental health and pro football are two things you dont normally hear together. Very true... 10 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Damn...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I like how Rob Kelley pops his head right in the middle of that Compton/Cravens vid, and he's like "Wassup Fellas ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I read Su'a suffered permanent damage to his eye abd has ro wear eye classes to correct it. I don't blame him for thinking about retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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