Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread

[Llevron]

11 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I'm missing something.  Who? What?  (I got the Kim K. part, who's the other?)

 

Because no one has answered you seriously yet, and because this is somewhat my area of expertise - Melania took a few photos with her milk mamas out back in the 80's i think? Nothing really worth it and hardly considered porn IMO unless you wanna see what they look like. Unimpressive, but for a First lady I would give it a solid 7/10 or, as we say in the industry, 1.5 Hairy Palms up. 

 

Trump on the other hand has been in like 4 or 5 soft core titles. Hes the real star in his current relationship. Its crazy when you think about the fact that this man is a porn star, ****ing strippers and making them get abortions, rubbing his daughters legs and telling people she is his type and maybe if she weren't his daughter they would "date" (hint, he didn't "date" like we would use the word.....he ****ed strippers) and Christians are tripping over themselves to bring him back for 4 more years of caging immigrants, cursing on TV and misquoting his favorite bible verses. ****s insane. 

[Momma There Goes That Man]

8 minutes ago, Llevron said:

and because this is somewhat my area of expertise -

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

The sooner we're to abolishing the electoral college, the better.

 

[Jumbo]

 

57 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

Trump on the other hand has been in like 4 or 5 soft core titles. Hes the real star in his current relationship. Its crazy when you think about the fact that this man is a porn star, ****ing strippers and making them get abortions, rubbing his daughters legs and telling people she is his type and maybe if she weren't his daughter they would "date" (hint, he didn't "date" like we would use the word.....he ****ed strippers) and Christians are tripping over themselves to bring him back for 4 more years of caging immigrants, cursing on TV and misquoting his favorite bible verses. ****s insane. 

 

 

tbf you should note it is just a slice of the large xtian pie, if a sizable and influential one

 

 

and per that very large slice, is it insane or a predictably perfect fit? 

 

 

[Llevron]

29 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

tbf you should note it is just a slice of the large xtian pie, if a sizable and influential one

 

 

and per that very large slice, is it insane or a predictably perfect fit? 

 

True. Its a pretty regular failing of mine to lump all western religion into one basket when im being critical of them. Im a work in progress. 

 

The predictably perfect fit line is so good im going to have to steal it though. 

[Jumbo]

36 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

Im a work in progress. 

 

 

 

 

"we seek and hope for progress, not perfection" is one of many useful and ancient concepts to utilize for a person's path/journey, or what is often called development 

 

i've long applied it personally but now i find i'm more a work in digress  

[88Comrade2000]

2 hours ago, Llevron said:

 

Because no one has answered you seriously yet, and because this is somewhat my area of expertise - Melania took a few photos with her milk mamas out back in the 80's i think? Nothing really worth it and hardly considered porn IMO unless you wanna see what they look like. Unimpressive, but for a First lady I would give it a solid 7/10 or, as we say in the industry, 1.5 Hairy Palms up. 

 

Trump on the other hand has been in like 4 or 5 soft core titles. Hes the real star in his current relationship. Its crazy when you think about the fact that this man is a porn star, ****ing strippers and making them get abortions, rubbing his daughters legs and telling people she is his type and maybe if she weren't his daughter they would "date" (hint, he didn't "date" like we would use the word.....he ****ed strippers) and Christians are tripping over themselves to bring him back for 4 more years of caging immigrants, cursing on TV and misquoting his favorite bible verses. ****s insane. 

So, you are a porn star?

[Burgold]

39 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

 

 

"we seek and hope for progress, not perfection" is one of many useful and ancient concepts to utilize for a person's path/journey, or what is often called development 

 

i've long applied it personally but now i find i'm more a work in digress  

This is the stretchiest version of "The unexamined life is not worth living" I've ever read

[Voice_of_Reason]

12 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said:

If Joe can win Florida and Arizona, he doesn't even need to even flip back the midwest states.

 

I think Trump is going to dump Pence.  I can see Ron Desantis as his new veep, in his attempt to win Florida again.  Or maybe he picks Senator Rick Scott.

Joe winning Florida is a complete toss-up.  I HOPE he can, he's polling dead even at the moment according to a poll of polls.  But things can change, and Democrats winning Florida is a dicey proposition.

 

Biden is polling ahead in Arizona at the moment.  Hell, again, if it was me, I would SERIOUSLY look at Kyrsten Sinema as a running mate. (Actually, as far as US Senators go, she's not bad to look at in general...)  A popular, middle of the road blue-dog (ie: pro-business) democrat.  I've met her several times, like her a lot. She's spoken at a couple of business conferences I've been to, including one hosted by The Wall Street Journal when she was in the house.  And she was on a panel with Republicans as well, and they all got along very well, and they even complimented her on a few things.  The "problem" is she's a blonde, and I think there is a real appetite to get a minority on the ticket.  Which I'm absolutely not against as a minority myself.  

 

If Trump picks up Desantis as his VP, that's a pretty brilliant strategic move, but I'm not sure how popular Desantis is currently in Florida.  I can't find any recent polling.

 

 

4 hours ago, skinsmarydu said:

Val Demmings, AA, impeachment manager, has the district that includes Orlando. She's my preference. 

I dunno.  I think if I'm the Democrats I want to stay as far away from the debacle that was the impeachment proceedings as humanly possible.  All that process did is energize Trump's base and create rally cry.  I know almost nothing about Demmings, I just wouldn't shine a lite on the impeachment in any way.  

 

2 hours ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

After the weekend Don had, and his morning going after Bubba Wallace and NASCAR. I don't know if Biden could do anything but hurt himself by sharing a stage with him for debates.

 

I might put in a stipulation that Don would never meet before doing it. Like releasing the same amount of years of taxes going back as Joe will do. Prove he wasn't stealing from America while the average tax payer wasn't. 

Actually, I didn't hear much from Don this weekend, but maybe I wasn't listening.  Did his rally at Mt. Rushmore not go well?  

And I agree, though Biden has to be careful.  He has to appear willing to have the debate if Trump wants it.  If he doesn't, he's come to come off as soft and afraid.  I like your idea of putting in stipulations about transparency, though, and say, "I'm here.  Release XYZ, and let's go."  And Trump then has to go back on the defensive as to why he won't release his tax returns. 

 

You know, I was thinking about this, he SHOULD be able to release his tax returns for the yeas he is President. If he denies even doing that, I mean, wouldn't even some portion of his supporters start to question why?  EVERY president has done it, both parties.  And this time there's no "If she releases her emails, I'll release my tax returns" argument.  I still think Hillary should have bit the bullet and released her emails and called his bluff.  But I don't know what was in them.  

 

2 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Biden's strategy to not say anything and let Trump throw up all over himself is smart. Its kinda like in the NFL, sometimes the best tactic is to run run run punt and let the other team fumble their way to a loss.

I agree with the strategy of "let Trump self destruct" to a point, but it would be good if Biden gave anybody something to vote FOR, and not just be standing there as the alternative to a train wreck.  

The thing about him is, at least for most, he's fairly likable.  You might agree with him, disagree with him, have trouble with the fact he's flipped flopped on just about everything over the years, etc., but he doesn't have the visceral negative reaction both Trump and Hillary Clinton had in the last election. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Llevron said:

Because no one has answered you seriously yet, and because this is somewhat my area of expertise - Melania took a few photos with her milk mamas out back in the 80's i think? Nothing really worth it and hardly considered porn IMO unless you wanna see what they look like. Unimpressive, but for a First lady I would give it a solid 7/10 or, as we say in the industry, 1.5 Hairy Palms up. 

Ah, I had no idea.  I'm going to admit, I have no interest in looking that up.  

 

2 hours ago, Llevron said:

Trump on the other hand has been in like 4 or 5 soft core titles. Hes the real star in his current relationship. Its crazy when you think about the fact that this man is a porn star, ****ing strippers and making them get abortions, rubbing his daughters legs and telling people she is his type and maybe if she weren't his daughter they would "date" (hint, he didn't "date" like we would use the word.....he ****ed strippers) and Christians are tripping over themselves to bring him back for 4 more years of caging immigrants, cursing on TV and misquoting his favorite bible verses. ****s insane. 

Guns.  You forgot the guns.  

 

1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

The sooner we're to abolishing the electoral college, the better.

 

Never going to happen.  It would take a constitutional amendment, which takes something like 2/3rds of state legislatures to pass, and that's just not going to happen becuase the GOP needs to the electoral college to win the presidency.  

 

I agree, but it isn't going to happen. 

[PleaseBlitz]

6 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

Joe winning Florida is a complete toss-up.  I HOPE he can, he's polling dead even at the moment according to a poll of polls.  But things can change, and Democrats winning Florida is a dicey proposition

 

Biden is up by 6.3% in FLA according to the 538 composite, mostly because Biden is pretty popular with old people.  

 

Of course, Trump hasn't gotten his cronies to announce INVESTIGATIONS! into Biden, and that is almost certainly going to happen at some point.  

 

 

[Momma There Goes That Man]

23 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

Never going to happen.  It would take a constitutional amendment, which takes something like 2/3rds of state legislatures to pass, and that's just not going to happen becuase the GOP needs to the electoral college to win the presidency.  

 

I agree, but it isn't going to happen.

that ruling opens the door for the constitutional workaround though (can’t think of the name off top of my head) where states submit their electoral vote based on the popular vote winner. I think they only need like 8 more states to sign onto this and they will have the 270 limit making every election a popular vote election. 
 

of course if this happened republicans would sue everyone in sight so who knows 

 

edit: here it is

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Captain Wiggles]

MAGA prolly believes the Cristo Redentor is in Mississippi and ATIFA is on their way to demo it with C-4.

 

Here is Muricas version. Christ of the Ozarks. 🤦‍♂️

 

 

 

[China]

On 7/4/2020 at 10:05 PM, Rufus T Firefly said:

 

 

Kanye West has already missed voter registration deadlines for presidential bid

 

He's missed the chance to appear on the ballot in six states. 

 

Click on the link for more

[PleaseBlitz]

26 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

that ruling opens the door for the constitutional workaround though (can’t think of the name off top of my head) where states submit their electoral vote based on the popular vote winner. I think they only need like 8 more states to sign onto this and they will have the 270 limit making every election a popular vote election. 

 

Right, it would become operational at 270 EC votes.  Right now it has 196 (although Colorado is going to have a statewide referendum to decide if they will remain a party to it), so they need 74 more.  The number of states needed depends on which states.  Virginia and Nevada look like the next most likely signees, which would bring the total to 215.  After that it looks pretty dicey to add anyone else.  

[Momma There Goes That Man]

16 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Right, it would become operational at 270 EC votes.  Right now it has 196 (although Colorado is going to have a statewide referendum to decide if they will remain a party to it), so they need 74 more.  The number of states needed depends on which states.  Virginia and Nevada look like the next most likely signees, which would bring the total to 215.  After that it looks pretty dicey to add anyone else.  

 

yeah i was just looking at that map. It's never going to happen without Florida even if you add Pennsylvania and Michigan. Arizone and VA. That means it's probably not ever going to happen lol

 

19 minutes ago, China said:

 

Kanye West has already missed voter registration deadlines for presidential bid

 

He's missed the chance to appear on the ballot in six states. 

 

Click on the link for more

 

I thought he came out over the weekend and said it was going to be a 2024 run

[PleaseBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

yeah i was just looking at that map. It's never going to happen without Florida even if you add Pennsylvania and Michigan. Arizone and VA. That means it's probably not ever going to happen lol

 

I mean, never is a long time.  NC and Texas are slowly but inevitably transitioning to blue state territory, a process that VA just completed.  If the GOP cleaves into 2 camps, "the Trump Base" and "Republicans who want reasonable governance" for an extended period of time, and Democrats don't overplay their hand, a window could open.  

[Rufus T Firefly]

 

[mistertim]

24 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

 

 

This is easily one of the most bizarre political attacks I've ever seen. The best they could come up with against Biden is "He said all people are created equal, when the Constitution says 'All men are created equal'.."? Seriously? And the fact that they managed to find a woman who was seemingly willing to go out and say this is the cherry on top. Not sure if she has no capacity for critical thinking or she was simply told to do it and had to chug a bottle of vodka and take 2 showers afterwards to deal with the shame.

[Voice_of_Reason]

1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Biden is up by 6.3% in FLA according to the 538 composite, mostly because Biden is pretty popular with old people.  

 

Of course, Trump hasn't gotten his cronies to announce INVESTIGATIONS! into Biden, and that is almost certainly going to happen at some point.  

 

 

I typically check 270towin.com, which does polls of polls, composites, etc, and as of yesterday, it was a dead heat.  That was also the only site which really brought to light how close the last election was.  They stopped short of predicting a Trump victory, but the polls highlighted how close it was, and how much of the polling was "in the margin.:

 

However, who the hell knows.  I've seen Florida polls with Trump leading, some with Biden leading, and some as even.  My takeaway is that it's CLOSE.  (And even if it wasn't, I want people to think it's close so they don't let up the pressure.)

[Momma There Goes That Man]

30 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

I mean, never is a long time.  NC and Texas are slowly but inevitably transitioning to blue state territory, a process that VA just completed.  If the GOP cleaves into 2 camps, "the Trump Base" and "Republicans who want reasonable governance" for an extended period of time, and Democrats don't overplay their hand, a window could open.  

winning states in a presidential election is one thing but I can’t fathom some of those remaining states losing GOP control in their state house and senate that would be needed to vote on this, if I understand correctly 

[mistertim]

5 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I typically check 270towin.com, which does polls of polls, composites, etc, and as of yesterday, it was a dead heat.  That was also the only site which really brought to light how close the last election was.  They stopped short of predicting a Trump victory, but the polls highlighted how close it was, and how much of the polling was "in the margin.:

 

However, who the hell knows.  I've seen Florida polls with Trump leading, some with Biden leading, and some as even.  My takeaway is that it's CLOSE.  (And even if it wasn't, I want people to think it's close so they don't let up the pressure.)

 

I generally go to FiveThirtyEight and RCP for their "Poll of Polls", as they both have a very good track record and good methodology for selecting good polls. I also like how FiveThirtyEight gives each pollster a grade based on how sound the science is in their polling. 

 

Both RCP and FiveThirtyEight have Biden up by between 3-4% in Arizona and 5-7% in Florida. 

[PleaseBlitz]

30 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I typically check 270towin.com, which does polls of polls, composites, etc, and as of yesterday, it was a dead heat.  That was also the only site which really brought to light how close the last election was.  They stopped short of predicting a Trump victory, but the polls highlighted how close it was, and how much of the polling was "in the margin.:

 

However, who the hell knows.  I've seen Florida polls with Trump leading, some with Biden leading, and some as even.  My takeaway is that it's CLOSE.  (And even if it wasn't, I want people to think it's close so they don't let up the pressure.)

 

Gotcha.  Yea, looks like 270towin averages the last 5 polls in each state, with Biden only up by 4.  538 averages all the polls, but weights them for recency and pollster quality.  

 

My takeaway is that Biden has a better than even chance to win Florida, but yea, he should act like it's a dead heat.  

[Rufus T Firefly]

28 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I typically check 270towin.com, which does polls of polls, composites, etc, and as of yesterday, it was a dead heat.  That was also the only site which really brought to light how close the last election was.  They stopped short of predicting a Trump victory, but the polls highlighted how close it was, and how much of the polling was "in the margin.:

 

However, who the hell knows.  I've seen Florida polls with Trump leading, some with Biden leading, and some as even.  My takeaway is that it's CLOSE.  (And even if it wasn't, I want people to think it's close so they don't let up the pressure.)

For the record, even 270toWin has Biden ahead by 4.8% in Florida. And its that close because of the Trafalgar poll, a c minus rated Republican polling outfit that has the state tied. 

 

Looking at the Florida polls, it literally seems like the better a reputation a pollster has, the more they have Biden ahead by. 

[China]

36 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

 Not sure if she has no capacity for critical thinking or she was simply told to do it and had to chug a bottle of vodka and take 2 showers afterwards to deal with the shame.

 

These people have no shame; she was probably so eager to do it she gave Roger Ailes a handy for the privilege.