CTskin Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Who would start instead of Su'a? (Serious question.) Everett. Even if Su'a played this preseason, I'd lean toward playing Everett over him. I doubt the coaches would do that because he's a hyped up 2nd rounder, but when you put that aside, Everett got better every game last year. Really reminded me of Kyshon. And if Nico Marley keeps playing like this, he's going to be a lock for the 53. Honey Badger is only 5'8"... Size matters, but for a select few, it just doesn't apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 hours ago, The Mayor of Fed Ex Field said: Medical records are private. It is not out of the question that a player has "faked" and injury for some reason or another in the history of the league. Zeke Elliot is about to be suspended 4-6 games. He is better than a B rated player. He could fake an injury in two weeks and use team facilities while on suspension if they allowed suspended players whom were injured to be in contact. Medical records are private unless there is a release of information or subpoena. Nobody with a license is going to put their asses on the line to have a player sneak around a suspension. The possibility of the history of it happening has nothing to do with it happening in the future. If the medical professionals get caught, then they are done. Not fired, not just suspended, but very likely out of the field altogether AND being given civil and potentially criminal penalties. If a ball boy deflating a ball could hurt the golden team, then imagine a medical professional faking player care (for or against) with all this CTE stuff going on. This isn't like signing off on a homework assignment; this carries a MASSIVE liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 On the positive side, it will be much cheaper to resign Murphy after this season. That really sucks though. I think Murphy has gotten better every season and had high expectations for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Boss_Hogg said: So does this mean Trent has to serve his 4 game suspension in 2018? Galette served his 2 games suspension while on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, NickyJ said: Junior Gallette better have knees of diamond this season. He always has as far as we know. The problem is his Achilles' tendons are made out of ritz crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskins Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said: If a ball boy deflating a ball could hurt the golden team... Whatever ball boy you are hypothetically referring to would get his job back when a court of law, not a league sponsored shakedown, determined there really was nothing to whatever hypothetical scandal would cause him to lose his job in the first place. Remember (hypothetically, of course) the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals would not rule on the merits behind a suspension. They would only rule that the Commissioner has the authority to impose one under Article 46 of the CBA. Bring it full circle and back to Trent Murphy (you know, because the above was a hypothetical), I think it full depends on what rights the player contractually grants the League through the NFLPA in order to play in the League. If privacy of medical records were absolute, there wouldn't couldn't be an accurate injury report every week. Depending on severity of the injury, which is moot at this point, the player could presumably demonstrate a fitness to play at say 75% and get an extra month to rehab to get that much closer to 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariusVT Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Boss_Hogg said: So does this mean Trent has to serve his 4 game suspension in 2018? 1 hour ago, SkinsGuy said: I don't think so, but I'm not sure. I think if he doesn't get paid for the first 4 weeks of the season, that will count as his suspension. First 4 games this year count as serving his suspension even with him being on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hate this news on Murphy. The guy has progressed every game for us. Time for Preston Smith to come back to his rookie form. He has the talent. But can he put it together for a full season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 @AdamSchefter: Washington LB Trent Murphy has a torn ACL, as @nflnetwork reported, but also has a torn MCL as well, per source. Season-ending injury. ACL and MCL?? He may never be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: @AdamSchefter: Washington LB Trent Murphy has a torn ACL, as @nflnetwork reported, but also has a torn MCL as well, per source. Season-ending injury. ACL and MCL?? He may never be the same Not really 'ever' but you'd expect a year of soft play as it won't be close enough to normal after 1-year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, TheShredder said: Not really 'ever' but you'd expect a year of soft play as it won't be close enough to normal after 1-year. He didn't have much athleticism to lose in the first place, so idk what the impact will be on his game once he's healthy again. The ACL/MCL combo is really bad for a player who already lacks explosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Lumber Co. Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not trying to make light of an injury to a player who has produced for this team but luckily the injury happened at one of the spots we have depth at, and to a player who was only going to be available for 12 games to begin with. The OLB rotation/competition picture becomes a little clearer now. Will the primary starting OLB opposite Kerrigan be Smith or Anderson? With Jay's comments about experimenting with Smith as a down lineman more this year I think we see them on the field simultaneously a lot too. If Anderson continues to build on his performance last night I'm no longer counting him as a mid season threat to take Smith's job, he could be ready a lot sooner. Is this the last year on Murphy's contract as well? If so, he just got a lot cheaper to re-sign and I wouldn't be surprised if he is only considered as a down-lineman moving forward after the knee injury. They might tell him to spend the injury time bulking back up in addition to rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Out for 16. Only gets paid for 12. We get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehard Otis Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, DC Lumber Co. said: Not trying to make light of an injury to a player who has produced for this team but luckily the injury happened at one of the spots we have depth at, and to a player who was only going to be available for 12 games to begin with. I'm in firm agreement with @DC Lumber Co. on this one. We all know injuries are a part of the game, so it's a bit of c'est la vie to me. And to go even further in the ruthless pragmatism direction, this unfortunate circumstance provides real opportunity for some on the roster (I'm looking at you Preston Smith). The ultimate question is who will decide to take advantage of it? Smith, Galette, Anderson, or no one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Do guys get tested for HGH while on IR? Asking for a friend. Seriously, this could be career challenging and he was ready for a break out year. He was in every play last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Lumber Co. Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Do guys get tested for HGH while on IR? Asking for a friend. Seriously, this could be career challenging and he was ready for a break out year. He was in every play last night. The timing of his suspension around the time he was abruptly switching from bulking to cutting weight, this injury for a player without much past injury history, and his spike in sack production could all support the idea that he was juicing. It could also be coincidence. Players that juice often are plagued by injuries and are synonymous with one-season-wonder stories. If he works hard in rehab he will get another shot somewhere if not here. The team has shown patience with injured players to get a shot to earn a roster spot (Galette)... Especially when it's of little risk to the team financially to do so (Galette). Murphy will almost certainly be a bargain after this injury, and his versatility to convert to DL will only help his chances even if he loses the athletic ability needed to play OLB ever again. A less athletic Murphy is still athletic enough to play DL. He's already proven he can carry the weight necessary too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron78 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 14 hours ago, desertbeagle85 said: Updated: Trent Murphy out for year with Torn ACL. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726976-trent-murphy-reportedly-out-for-season-with-torn-acl Well not a good start at all last night. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/11/trent-murphy-sua-cravens-getting-mris-after-knee-injuries/ I have a sneaking suspicion that injuries will come much more often than we would like for Sua Cravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Do guys get tested for HGH while on IR? Asking for a friend. Seriously, this could be career challenging and he was ready for a break out year. He was in every play last night. "Players subject to the blood testing must be on the active roster, practice squad or on injured reserve, and not already subject to reasonable-cause testing." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 11 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Do guys get tested for HGH while on IR? Asking for a friend. Seriously, this could be career challenging and he was ready for a break out year. He was in every play last night. Another way to look at it is Murphy really didn't do anything until last year, now we know he had illegal help to make that jump. With the suspension, the absence of this illegal help, and Galette, Anderson and Smith in the mix, I am not convinced he was going to take the next step. No I saw him as a role player getting very few snaps. Not trying to be unsympathetic to his situation, very bad news that he was hurt so badly, but I was not in the camp that believe he was going to have a break out year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Thoughts: Su'a is a fairly special playmaker but seems like Chris Thompson early in his career when he just couldn't stay on the field. Everett has steadily improved, stays healthy and looks the part. I would ease cravens in as a nickel type player or as a situational player. Sucks with trent. I've been impressed with his improvement. Fortunately we have depth and barring further injuries we are still ok. More snaps for Anderson who, not surprisingly, looks game ready. Hopefully we resign Trent. Alabama rookies will contribute early and could be big time players by the end of the year. Nico is the obvious man crush for everyone and bottom line he fits that mold of football player we've been targeting. Forget about size, if he's consistently making plays he will continue to force the coaches to bump him higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Ron78 said: I have a sneaking suspicion that injuries will come much more often than we would like for Sua Cravens. Yeah I agree injuries do seem to be a problem with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Another way to look at it is Murphy really didn't do anything until last year, now we know he had illegal help to make that jump. With the suspension, the absence of this illegal help, and Galette, Anderson and Smith in the mix, I am not convinced he was going to take the next step. No I saw him as a role player getting very few snaps. Not trying to be unsympathetic to his situation, very bad news that he was hurt so badly, but I was not in the camp that believe he was going to have a break out year. or maybe it turns out he needed the extra weight. He put on extra to play DE and I doubt he could have cut it all by the end of camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawRebel Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Do we now keep an extra DB or does a LB that was on the bubble (Nico Marley) make the team now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 hours ago, desertbeagle85 said: Yeah I agree injuries do seem to be a problem with him. The reason I had a 4th round grade on the guy. Last season I ate some crow on him a little bit. But we will see how his career eventually pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I'm a Giants fan, but I'm sorry to see good players get hurt. I hope their recoveries go as well as can be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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