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Trump's entire administration has been nothing more than corporate piracy and the gleeful rape of the middle and lower classes.  It's been brazenly corrupt in every chance they've gotten.  The reason this particular instance is generating so much attention and grassroots anger is because it's the one that directly effects the most people.

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https://www.cnet.com/news/majority-of-net-neutrality-comments-sent-to-fcc-were-fake/

 

Majority of net neutrality comments sent to FCC were fake

 

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It appears the bots are really into the net neutrality issue too. 

 

When the Federal Communications Commission opened up this year for comments on the rules governing net neutrality, or the principle that all internet traffic must be treated equally, it received nearly 22 million comments in the four months from late April to the end of August. That's roughly 50 times more comments than it received back in 2014, the last time people could comment on the issue. 

 

It turns out, though, that 57 percent of the 2017 comments used temporary or duplicate e-mail addresses, and seven popular comments accounted for 38 percent of all submissions, according to a study conducted by the Pew Research Center. Of the 21.7 million comments submitted, only 6 percent were unique, which Pew said is clear evidence of organized campaigns to flood the system with repeated messages. 

 

This come after it was discovered that 444,938 comments were from Russian email addresses, according to Bloomberg. 

 

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai has outlined a proposal to roll back virtually all of the net neutrality rules put in by the previous administration, and he and his two fellow Republican commissioners outnumber the two Democratic, pro-net neutrality commissioners. They vote on the proposal on Dec. 14.

 

"This demonstrates why a rulemaking proceeding is not a public opinion poll and why the FCC focuses on the quality not the quantity of the comments," said an FCC spokesman.

 

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I will say this.  There were a lot of pro net neutrality tricks to sent mass pre scripted emails to the FCC.  You could text a number and it would generate and email for you.  Plus, the Russians want to destabilize the country.  Plus, what the **** ever happened to common sense decisions in policy making???

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There is no popular support for ending net neutrality.  The whole case for it is wall to wall bull**** and everyone knows it.  This is a massive undemocratic act of fraud.  It's a corporate giveaway orchestrated by a former lawyer of Verizon that goes entirely against the interests of the general public that this sham administration is supposed to represent.  At best, at its most benign, the only thing this does is create another way for ISPs to transfer your money to their accounts without providing a single additional service or benefit of any kind. 

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8 minutes ago, Destino said:

There is no popular support for ending net neutrality.  The whole case for it is wall to wall bull**** and everyone knows it.  This is a massive undemocratic act of fraud.  It's a corporate giveaway orchestrated by a former lawyer of Verizon that is goes entirely the interests of the general public that this sham administration is supposed to represent.  At best, at its most benign, the only thing this does is create another way for ISPs to transfer your money to their accounts without providing a single additional service or benefit of any kind. 

It's intellectually dishonest the way the FCC guys are trying to sell it. "ISP are't investing as much (still literally spending billions)" and one guy said he wouldn't have voted to end net neutrality if "it repealed ALL consumer protections." Also, apparently in India they are going in the opposite direction and strengthening net neutrality. The result has been lower costs and faster internet speeds. 

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Operating under the assumption that net neutrality is as good as gone, is there any legislative recourse? How simple would it be to reverse this in 2020 under a different President & newly appointed FCC chairman?  Is it one of those things that once Pandora's box has been opened to corporate interests it will be nearly impossible to go back?

 

Also it's laughable to think ISP's are not going to throttle and/or prioritize "fast lanes" based on how much you pay and what base package you select.  They are already running commercials that end with "we promise to be transparent about any procedures or changes to your plan"  They are pretty much literally telling everyone to buckle up and get ready, but not to worry, they will make sure you know how much you're about to get effed. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

Operating under the assumption that net neutrality is as good as gone, is there any legislative recourse? How simple would it be to reverse this in 2020 under a different President & newly appointed FCC chairman?  Is it one of those things that once Pandora's box has been opened to corporate interests it will be nearly impossible to go back?

 

I supposed the Supreme Court would have ultimate authority and be the Pandora's box; they still haven't ruled on Net Neutrality.

 

Of course there's no case anymore with it dying tomorrow. 

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Ooh, here’s what is ACTUALLY gonna happen:

 

Net Neutrality gets repealed.

Sen. John Thune introduces legislation for NN.

Net Neutrality gets passed through Congress.

 

 

Great, right?  Wrong.  John Thune is a republican whose 3 of top 10 donors are telecoms.  The telecoms are gonna write the new NN legislation!  ****ing Christ we are gonna get baited, switched and screwed.

 

Sources:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/12/16767244/john-thune-asks-for-work-on-net-neutrality-legislation

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/contributors?cid=N00004572&cycle=2018&type=I

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1 hour ago, Springfield said:

Another possible solution.  States can individually legislate its own version of net neutrality.

 

I don't think that is possible. I think they are writing into the rules that states cannot actually do that. https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691344/fcc-preempt-block-state-local-net-neutrality-laws

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