mcsluggo Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 this link was in the "....back to the center, Democrats..." thread..... but it deserves to stand on its own. http://thehill.com/homenews/news/341305-poll-most-republicans-say-colleges-have-negative-impact-on-us tell me .... what the actual ****?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 All the hot women leaving ? maybe they just didn't understand the question....was it in Hick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Well, listen to the media outlets they tune into via TV or radio......the messaging is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 can we officially change the title from GOP - Grand Old Party to POS - Party of Stupid (people) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I read the polling report this morning. The basic highlight was: Around 90% of Republican voters have a negative view of colleges/universities. To me this was probably the most eye opening thing, as I didn't suspect this percentage was going to be this large. To summarize this is how voters of both parties view the three institutions they were asked about (church, colleges and media): Republican voters: (a) colleges: overwhelmingly negative (b) news media: overwhelmingly negative (c) church: overwhelmingly positive Democrat voters: (a) colleges: mostly positive (b) news media: mostly positive (c) church: moderately positive The only saving grace was that younger Republican voters in the 18-29 range had a more positive view of college than negative (the only age group). It was mostly the old farts in the voter group that had a negative view. However, this raises a lot of questions on the educational choices they will be making for their kids. We already have a large chunk of the population that didn't attend college, and is now struggling to find stable work due to a lack of advanced skills. It will be a major labor shortage issue if a large chunk of the population is disregarding the primary avenue for acquiring work in the modern economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I really hope there was a significant error in those polling numbers. If not, I think it's frightening and pathetic. Though I suppose if more Republicans were college educated, the Tea Party and the like might die off. One can hope for a better future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Emblematic of the demographic shift that happened in the last election. College educated voters are abandoning the GoP. If the trend continues, Republicans are going to be an underclass in a generation. They'll be the party of the white poor everywhere outside of the South and Appalachia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 They probably view science as being in conflict with Church. Can't make America great again unless we regress to the 17th Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I knew a lot of Republicans had a negative view of colleges/universities, but I didn't expect that high of a percentage. I'm truly shocked. I've always been a firm believer that college isn't for everyone, but you at least need to be pursuing career advancement/education in some manner. That may mean trade schools, or apprenticeships. But college should be seen as option #1 if it's available to you and you're eligible. At least the younger generation seems to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Stupid people don't like school. Color me surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Its no surprise really. The Republican party is now the party that caters to the willfully ignorant and downright stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Its no surprise really. The Republican party is now the party that caters to the willfully ignorant and downright stupid. They are taking advantage of the idiots in the country. It's a good strategy. Immoral as hell. But it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Llevron said: They are taking advantage of the idiots in the country. It's a good strategy. Immoral as hell. But it works. Probably have student loans and working at Walmart. Bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, twa said: Probably have student loans and working at Walmart. Bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles You be knowin Lol. I hate to be that cynical but you and I both know there is too much truth there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Llevron said: You be knowin Lol. I hate to be that cynical but you and I both know there is too much truth there. I figure those were the ones wanting loan forgiveness....or was that the other team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, twa said: I figure those were the ones wanting loan forgiveness....or was that the other team? I guess you think you got me huh? But I specifically said stupid people don't like school so obviously I can't be talking about the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, twa said: Probably have student loans and working at Walmart. Bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles Yeah I could see that. For profit schools got more people indebted than normal. People who thought they getting a degree in their pajamas was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm surprised it's that high but I think colleges are a major issue. People go into gobs of debt and then can't find a job or are in debt for a long time trying to pay it off. There are plenty of better directions for people to go such as trade schools. You don't end up with a lot of debt, there are lots of jobs that pay super well, and it works better for a lot of people. There are a good bit of people that go to college that I think would be better served going to a trade school, or getting an apprenticeship as a mason or something. But it's hammered into everyone that you have to go to college, you are ruining your life if you don't go to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Burgold said: They probably view science as being in conflict with Church. Can't make America great again unless we regress to the 17th Century. I assumed it had more to do with campus politics. There is a perception that conservatives views are entirely unwelcome on most American campuses, and if that's true it's not terribly surprising that so many republicans would frown at colleges. I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 How much of it is likely related to seeing news coverage of militant liberals taking over college campuses? I imagine seeing the stuff going on at Evergreen probably swayed a few minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Llevron said: They are taking advantage of the idiots in the country. It's a good strategy. Immoral as hell. But it works. Just ask Putin. 6 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: How much of it is likely related to seeing news coverage of militant liberals taking over college campuses? I imagine seeing the stuff going on at Evergreen probably swayed a few minds. Probably a good bit. My first question would then be, what "News" stations are they watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Trump University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Destino said: I assumed it had more to do with campus politics. There is a perception that conservatives views are entirely unwelcome on most American campuses, and if that's true it's not terribly surprising that so many republicans would frown at colleges. I could be wrong. I suspect your take is a big part of it. As to that issue, I've found that it's kind of major dependent. Most economic and engineer profs seem to be conservative. Overall, I suspect colleges are more liberal, but that's simply because there's something about the liberal mindset that lends itself more to the teaching professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 The demographics pretty much explain this, do they not? Republicans skew old and white, as well as middle class. Colleges and universities skew young, diverse, and liberal. They're seen as a breeding ground for liberalism, so much the university staff is accused of contributing to it all. They're also seen as elitists, not exactly who the middle class like. I guess I don't find it disturbing because it's in-line with what I've figured for a while now. I hear a lot of hard core republicans make comments about how they're going to encourage their kids to do something other than college. College isn't the only way to go but the statistics show a significant difference in the type of life you live. Employment in general, employment during a crisis, health, happiness, financial stability, etc show the same general pattern. Crime rates, drugs/substance abuse. Hell even divorce statistics reflect this, if I'm remembering the study I read correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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