Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 If allegedly it's wrapping up now, I can't see any way they meet justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 57 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Simpler would be for the House to subpoena Mueller and ask him what was in the report and if Barr pressured him to end it. But Trump has the authority to classify the report, doesn't he? Which means Mueller couldn't publicly talk about what's in it. I know Congress could fight it, but overturning a classification decision by the executive branch is a slippery slope. And the judiciary branch traditionally won't touch those decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: This doesn't look good to me. Its not. Its pretty clear Barr is taking action on directive number 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 None of this is surprising, Barr from the beginning never promised to make the report public. He danced around the issue from the get-go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, drowland said: But Trump has the authority to classify the report, doesn't he? Which means Mueller couldn't publicly talk about what's in it. I know Congress could fight it, but overturning a classification decision by the executive branch is a slippery slope. And the judiciary branch traditionally won't touch those decisions. I know Trump can declassify things. I don't think he can arbitrarily classify them though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, drowland said: But Trump has the authority to classify the report, doesn't he? It's possible I guess? In that case the House better issue a subpoena quickly, before Trump can run it's contents by Putin first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 When has Trump ever cared whether he had the authority to do something or even if it was the decent or right thing to do? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I know Trump can declassify things. I don't think he can arbitrarily classify them though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. you are wrong according to Reagan's executive order https://www.epic.org/open_gov/eo_12356.html there is always wiggle room though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Wiggle room or not the rules mean nothing now. If you have support of the ruling party in congress you can literally do anything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, twa said: you are wrong according to Reagan's executive order https://www.epic.org/open_gov/eo_12356.html there is always wiggle room though Well at least there's this part in there. Sec. 1.6 Limitations on Classification. (a) In no case shall information be classified in order to conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error; to prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency; to restrain competition; or to prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of national security. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Simpler would be for the House to subpoena Mueller and ask him what was in the report and if Barr pressured him to end it. I think the Republican's plan has been to simply bury the report, for months, now. Think its just about guaranteed the Dems will try to bring in the report, or Mueller himself. Also expect the Republicans to try to claim classified/privilege/FBI only something, to try to keep it/him hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Multiple thumb drives are in order. Edited February 20, 2019 by LadySkinsFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Time for Julian Assange to prove he isn't a biased hack in the bag for Trump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 A good summary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Hmm, maybe. We’ve been told the investigation was winding down or shutting down for many months by Trump’s people and others. There still seems to be to be a lot of work to do with those who have been indicted and hopefully others who may yet be indicted. So unless they are planning to hand off some of that or are planning a deluge of indictments next week I would be cautious about assuming the investigation will be ending soon. Also it is a little concerning that Matt Schlepp recently implied pretty strongly that Barr was coming in and shutting it down after he was confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Quote (CNN)At the very end of a decidedly contentious interview between CNN's Chris Cuomo and White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway on Tuesday night, Conway said something regarding special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election that should raise every eyebrow you have (which should only be two). CUOMO: -- when that probe comes out, Kellyanne, I'll give you guys as much time as you want to discuss its findings. I believe it's critical to the American people. The offer will always stand. CONWAY: Great. Let's see if there's a report to even discuss. https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/kellyanne-conway-cuomo-mueller-report/index.html 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) Edited February 21, 2019 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bang Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Idea: Trump wants a military parade. So ok, we send the military in with the FBI when they arrest him and his nest of snakes, and then perp walk them all down Pennsylvania avenue. Anyway... best be ready, folks. ~Bang 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Seems to me any evidence of Russian collusion will only increase the devotion of Trumps base. After all, they despise the diverse society that modern America has become. A totalitarian, white ethno-state like Russia is a dream for them...and many of their elected representatives. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: Seems to me any evidence of Russian collusion will only increase the devotion of Trumps base. After all, they despise the diverse society that modern America has become. A totalitarian, white ethno-state like Russia is a dream for them...and many of their elected representatives. I recall an article posted here maybe five or so years ago.. why Republicans should move to Russia, and it proceeded to lay out all of the similarities to their ideals. Amazing how accurate it appears to have been. ~Bang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 20 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: If allegedly it's wrapping up now, I can't see any way they meet justice. Meet justice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Meet justice? prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Meet justice? Could mean anything from a warning to death by artillery as they do in his buddy's NK. https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-dictator-kim-jong-uns-executions-anti-aircraft-guns-flamethrowers-mortars Edited February 21, 2019 by RedskinsFan44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Meet justice? 7 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: prison? Male porn film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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